This morning while eating my breakfast muesli Vitalia from N. Macedonia I noticed they are halal certified and remembered what a friend of mine working in the food industry told me about those certificates. Apparently if you want to get your food products (non meat and dairy) certified as kosher or halal you have to periodically pay a rabbi and/or an imam to come and do the job. The funny thing is it's kinda formality, as they are not really checking the origin and storage of the ingredients but do a bit of chanting above the production line and get the money.
So, what do you think about it? Do you have many certified products in your country? If you are christian are you ok with paying more for your products for something you don't need? If you are muslim or jew, do you specifically look for such products?
Thank you
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I was filling out a form yesterday which had different dietary options, and something I noticed which catches me off guard a lot is that there is no term for my type of diet. I eat everything (including pork, chicken, and goat) except for beef, and I have no shame in that but feel that there is a lot of stigma against it. I hope this is a safe place where I can talk about it without being judged for it.
I definitely have nothing against people who eat beef. It's just something I choose not to eat because of the way I was brought up. I am a casual Hindu, and I don't follow religion strictly, but because I also have a lot of respect for my family, my adherence to my diet is something I'm happy to stick with. I personally have no problems with it, and I find it really hurtful when people make it for something which it is not - asking you to try beef, or making fun of you for not feeling comfortable with it.
I am definitely more turned off from it when I see dietary options listed that don't include mine. I am neither vegetarian (veggies and dairy), vegan (only veggies), kosher (separate meats and dairy), or halal (everything except unpure meats like pork). And I really wish there was a term that I could relate to more easily.
Does anyone feel this way, and if so, how do you handle the haters who try to force you to eat something you don't want?
I may not see some people as we mix and rotate around each other's schedules in December, so I was thinking of leaving a basket and asking them to pick something. A small ribbon will be on each for presentation.
Are there any brands that are good to gift that may be both halal and kosher? Or either you can recommend?
I love Ritter Sport squares but am seeing conflicting information as to whether it's Halal or not. Willing to spend up to $5 per bar, or similar package of Toblerones, Brookside Chocolates, Maltesers odd-shaped candies.
Bonus if there's anything local!
Ditto
So I've always heard (and used) the term "Kosher" to mean that something is ok.
Such "you can do that, it's Kosher" or "Nah dude, don't do that, it's not Kosher"
However we have a gentleman at work who is Muslim, and he says the exact same things, but uses Halal and Haram, and people always say "Dude, you can't say that, that's appropriation"
He'll then point out that be is Muslim, and they'll say things like "That's just not appropriate"
Yet these same people will then say that something is or isn't Kosher later on.
To me, looking at this from my perspective, they are both meaning essentially the same thing in a general context of everyday speak.
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Title. I'm not muslim nor jewish, the topic is just important to be debated due to economic implications.
Simple solution make it all vegan, then its all kosher/ halal etc;
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 54%. (I'm a bot)
> A Belgian ban on kosher and halal slaughter of animals without being stunned has been backed by the European Court of Justice, which rejected objections by religious groups.
> EU law, along with UK law, already requires animals to be stunned before being killed, unless the meat is intended for Muslims or Jews, and then only in approved abbatoirs.
> The European Court said all member states had to reconcile both animal welfare and freedom of religion and EU law did not prevent countries from requiring the stunning of animals as long as they respected fundamental rights.
> While the Court accepted that imposing such a requirement limited the rights of Muslims and Jews, it did not ban ritual slaughter and the Belgian law's "Interference with the freedom to manifest religion" met an "Objective of general interest recognised by the European Union, namely the promotion of animal welfare".
> It also said the Flemish parliament had relied on scientific evidence indicating that prior stunning was the best way of reducing an animal's suffering and that the law allowed "a fair balance to be struck" between animal welfare and freedom of religion.
> The head of the European Jewish Association, Rabbi Menachem Margolin, said Friday was a "Sad day for European Jewry" and Belgium's Jewish umbrella group, CCOJB, said it would take its legal fight to the European Court of Human Rights.
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I guess this falls under the religion flair.
As far as I'm aware, the process of kosher and halal slaughter is very, very similar, if not identical (? Other than the religion being different, I mean).
Edit: I'm not Jewish or Muslim. I'm just curious.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9987621/Welfare-labels-meat-say-animal-killed.html
"Halal and kosher meat will have to be labelled in a victory for animal welfare campaigners.
As part of the proposed law, all meat will have to be marked with how the animal was killed.
Animals slaughtered to be compliant with kosher and halal rules are often killed without being stunned first and have their throats slit.
At the moment, it is not compulsory to label meat as halal, so campaigners have argued that those who eat the products and care about animal welfare should be able to make the choice to buy meat killed in a more humane way".
It is disgusting that in an Enlightened country, we still allow the suffering of animals.
Halal and Kosher killings MUST be banned - they have no place in a civilised world.
First of all, for all practical purposes, I'm an agnostic atheist goy & kafir. So forgive me and educate me if I've made some (silly) mistakes. I've done my best to wrap my head around it. This is quite a long post. So:
tl;dr: would you, as a Jew or Muslim, consider lab-meat to be Kosher or Halal (yes/no/idk) and why would you give that answer?
For more details, without further ado:
1 - Lab-meat
It's a long time coming and, while it's still not here, it's becoming more and more a reality. It has many nicknames (cultured, lab-grown, clean, suffering-free), but the essence and process is the same: meat that's made in labs/factories from a batch of cells, or even just one single cell, rather than meat that's cut-off from dead animals.
It has the potential to be much 'greener' (both in terms of greenhouse gasses and uses of: energy, water, and resources), cheaper, healthier, and without the need for slaughter and suffering. All you'd need is a base set of cells. And therein lies the problem I'd like to discuss.
2 - Kosher & Halal
In regards to the Kosher and Halal dietary laws, I'm referring to the information I found on this website here. isfaik, while there are some discrepancies, these are either not important for the examples I've chosen; or they could be largely overcome, because they do not seem mutually exclusive. Furthermore, they have a large overlap anyway. If I am mistaken, just imagine two different examples: one Kosher, one Halal.
2.1 - Other religions, vegetarianism, and veganism
While there are other religions with other laws or sensitivities regarding food from animals, with Hinduism and Jainism most salient for most, I fear it might distract from the focus. The same can be said for vegetarianism and veganism, perhaps even more so, since the motivations for these are generally secular in nature (especially based on ethical or health grounds) and so, from an altogether different vantage point.
2.2 - Animals and Plants
While there's more to food than animals and plants, Kosher and Halal laws do seem to be almost exclusively concerned with animals and the conditions of their slaughter. So, let's ignore plants, fungus, etc., because, while intoxicating plants and their derivatives are scrutinized, they seem to be so for entirely different reasons: their said capacity to intoxicate. So if thes
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