Gender in horror films Puns

Hey, everyone.

I'm leading my second meeting for a feminist club on the role gender plays in horror movies. Any recommendations on movies I should reference? I would be stupid not to mention the differences between the portrayal of final girls before and after Scream (1996) as well as final girls as a concept. I'm going to mention XX (2017) too.

P.S. Please refrain from dropping down in the comments with any sexist or "feminists hate men" stuff because I won't validate it with a reply. We will be looking at the evolution of horror from a gender standpoint as well as discussing critically and analytically the portrayal of women and men in horror films and why they are portrayed the ways they are (the slut=dead, the prude=dead, the comedic relief=dead, the jock=dead, the final girl=alive, etc.) We won't be sitting around like "men are always killing women in horror movies. We hate men." That's stupid.

I literally have no energy to explain this one! Stress levels are reaching critical! The plan was 6am (its a big bird 10kg). I now cannot get back to sleep!

How many years do you get for manslaughter vs murder?

I think ill sit in the dark and make a cup of tea maybe pop out for a cigarette, I have to remember my own mother left beer bottles out by the back door to cool even though I have a massive fridge (and its nearly double digits due to climate change, the bottles were already cold).

I sware they get their own back from when you were little.

Hows your Christmas mornings going?

One of the first ones that comes to mind for me is Denzel Washington in Fallen, I thought he was excellent along with the rest of the cast but I remember there were quite a few at the time that were surprised to see him in a horror film, especially a film where he's essentially >!fighting a demon that can enter through touch.!< I was surprised to see him in a film like that, I felt the same way about Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense & Richard Gere in The Mothman Prophecies tbh, thought their respective performances were solid in that. Probably my favorite performance from Gere.

I also remember many surprised to see Donnie Wahlberg being in The Sixth Sense, Dreamcatcher & some of the SAW sequels. I wasn't surprised to see him in the SAW films, I was surprised to see him in The Sixth Sense & Dreamcatcher because he looked so unrecognizable, he completely disappeared into the role. Name an actor or actress that you were honestly surprised to see in a horror film or a creepy psychological thriller.

There's some obvious ones like Jennifer Aniston in Leprechaun, but I just spotted a young Adam Scott in one of the lesser-known Hellraiser films and it got me curious.

What other deep cuts do you guys know of from before people started making it big?

The ability of the film to keep up that depressing overtone the entire time starts to really mess with the watchers head, waiting for some moment of happiness, but it never comes. It doesn't depend on jump scares. The gore is used when necessary. Every moment in that film has you saying to yourself "what in the actual fuck". I've been so desensitized by horror films, but this is the film I've been waiting for that can make a die-hard horror fan feel unsettled. It steps all over Hereditary's psychological moments, and makes you yawn at the "WTF" moments of Midsommar.

If you haven't watched this film, I highly recommend it.

edit By "it doesn't depend on jump scares", I mean that they aren't used as the main selling point of the film and are placed appropriately in the film.

For me, Frozen (2010), I could easily see something like that happening in real life & honestly wouldn't be too surprised if it did happen in real life.

Name a horror film or thriller that you felt was realistic because you could see what happened to the characters possibly happening to someone in real life.

Edit: I didn't expect this post to get much attention. Thanks to everyone who's made suggestions on types of protection, I really appreciate the consideration.

Edit#2: in case y'all need to know, I'm a 22 year old female. No, I do not have a gun. Yes, that is weird for a southerner. Yes, I have a pocket knife, but it's a nice one from Cabela's that can definitely hold it's own. I also have a Rough Ryder dagger, 14" with 9" fixed blade and leather sheath that I bought for added protection. My dad stored it away somewhere since it's "dangerous," but after this past incident, I think I can convince him to return it.

Edit#3: Half of these comments- "GUN U FREAKIN LOSER" bruh I get it lol

Most horror films tend to kill off annoying characters or lesser known actors first until you're left with the more admirable/interesting characters or bigger named actors. But are there any horror films that flipped the script on this? Whether they killed the bigger names or intriguing characters first and left us with lesser named or annoying characters? Or simply there didn't seem to be an established order to which characters died in?

For me it's Gremlins. So funny, fun, entertaining and frightening. An absolute classic.

Also the original Black Christmas is great, very good script and acting. Love the kills too.

Krampus is also a very fun movie. Love the campy style of it and the humor but it's also very terrifying in some spots.

I like to know what everyone else thinks.

Doesn't have to be new, just the worst thing you've seen this year. I see plenty of posts of people hating things I genuinely think are good. So I figure this might be a good way to get some recommendations lined up. Thanks!

The sisters are adults btw.

Edit: It wasn't a supernatural movie. If I remember correctly, the sisters are back together at their childhood home bc the mother has passed & they are there to arrange things.

EDIT 2: IT'S THE PACT 2012 !!!

I didn't recognized it from the crappy trailer because they made it look like a completely different movie! Its edited to look like a low quality supernatural b-movie & also I didn't remember the girl character in the trailer with the bad kabuki make up!

Sorry about all the confusion & thank you everyone for helping!

So I bought this movie at a thrift store yesterday and decided to give it a go. I knew it was about Kevin Bacon who plays a scientist who turns himself invisible. I just thought it would be a cool sci-fi movie but I was shocked.

I wouldn't say it's a GREAT movie altogether. It's a little long and I would of liked more diversity in showing how him staying invisible fucked with his mind. I mean, we see him attack a woman and rape her off-screen then bash a dog like a lunatic so it does go there. But the constant "rapeyness" of it kind of bugged me and I wish we saw some other things or delved more into his personal mindset at points instead of him just groping a bunch of his colleagues. I get the theme of this film is what would I do if I was invisible and could easily get away with doing anything. With this concept comes depraved scary thoughts that you wouldn't normally thing about. Maybe Kevin's character already did? He plays a cocky scientist who takes wild chances akin to Saffron Burrows' character in 'Deep Blue Sea'.

But then when it gets to the last act when Kevin locks them all in this facility. All hell breaks loose and it's one big slasher film. You basically get to watch an invisible CGI Kevin Bacon kill each of his colleagues off like some crazed slasher villian. The last 20-25 minutes is so much fun and such a gory and entertaining ride. The entire last act is one great set piece. I thought the movie was perfectly fine up until this point (with surprisingly good CGI which I liked) but the last act really kind of saved the movie for me.

I had written off this film, directed by William Friedkin and starring Ashley Judd and Michael Shannon, for years since first seeing a trailer for it in theaters years ago (this was at a time before I knew who Friedkin was, or had developed any taste in movies to speak of). However recently the film came up on a rotation of films recommended by my smart TV, so I decided to give it a watch.

Bug was released a few years after the invasion of Iraq, and Friedkin (at least, from what I have read) intended for the film to address, in part, the post-9/11 breed of domestic paranoia that had led the US government to initiate what many felt was in fact a highly destructive mission to inject democracy into a foreign culture. Tracy Letts' play, upon which this film was based, was initially penned in the wake of the Gulf War, and speaks to the same kind of blind trust (albeit in a different historical context) in the need to dominate otherwise rational public discourse with ideologically-driven messaging, using fear and the threat of violence as emotional leverage, for the sake of furthering the desires of a Machiavellian political minority.

This military-industrial complex reading of Bug notwithstanding, the underlying theme of the film and play, in my mind, maps perfectly onto the context in which we are living currently - that is, a world filled with sickness spreading across the globe, and a multitude of irrational responses to this relatively new and pervasive threat of illness and death. What's more, with the exponential growth of digital media sharing platforms over the last decade-plus, the spread of misinformation has exacerbated and expedited the growth of fringe ideology into mainstream rallying cries to take concrete action against perceived state threats. This phenomenon is portrayed eerily in the psychological breakdown (first gradually, then expeditiously) of Agnes and Peter, the two main characters, over the course of the film.

I have refrained from describing much about the events of the film itself on purpose. This is not a film that benefits from much summary or explanation beforehand. I've summarized the main themes of its plot, as well as the context in which play and film were produced, but ultimately it is a work of art that is best experienced viscerally and with a fresh perspective. I myself went in without much knowledge of it, other than that it was originally a play, and that it was a passion project for Friedkin, who took care to c

I'm writing my undergraduate thesis on gender in horror films, but specifically on the function of gender in films like Ginger Snaps and Jennifer's Body, which feature a female killer or a female protagonist who doesn't necessarily fall into the final girl category. I've planned out my syllabus, which includes most of the relevant films I could think of: Teeth, Raw, I Spit on Your Grave, Hard Candy, American Mary, and Carrie, as well as a few slasher films like Texas Chain Saw Massacre and A Nightmare on Elm Street to further explore the classic slasher film model. Are there any others that you guys would recommend for this project? I'd appreciate any suggestions that might help me as I continue my research. Thanks!

I am including a portion of the article written in the early 2000’s with a link to finish the entire article.

15 Years Later, Murder-Suicide Fades From View (Fifth Monday)

By Gwin Moritz, Arkansas Business

After being caught embezzling from Stephens Inc., futures trader John Markle killed his family and himself in November 1987.  (Photo courtesy KATV-TV, Channel 7) A violent thunderstorm and a creepy old house, a famous mother who had literally portrayed the devil, a methodical killer wearing a Halloween mask: Despite dramatic elements that would tax a B-movie screenwriter, one of the strangest business-related crimes in recent history has very nearly faded from view. The case of Ronald Gene Simmons, who shocked the nation only six weeks later by slaughtering 14 members of his family and two former co-workers in Pope County, is detailed in two books and innumerable articles available on the Internet. Two books also were written about the murder of Little Rock socialite Alice McArthur five years earlier.

The murders of three West Memphis boys in 1993 inspired two critically acclaimed documentaries and celebrity support for the three youths convicted of the killings. But as the 15th anniversary of the deaths of John, Christina, Amy and Suzanne Markle nears, the only lingering attention comes from a handful of conspiracy theorists who insinuate — but never quite allege — that Bill Clinton or Jack and Witt Stephens may have been involved in the annihilation of the prosperous Little Rock family. (See story here.)

Weeks of investigation confirmed what seemed obvious as soon as the crime was discovered. John Markle left a short suicide note in which he acknowledged killing his wife and two young daughters. He dated and timed the note and called his attorney barely a quarter-hour before his body was found, answering the question of when. Three handguns containing 14 spent shells explained how.

It would take a few more days for the Little Rock Police Department to determine that the discovery of his risky embezzlement scheme had motivated Markle, a 45-year-old futures trader for Stephens Inc., to destroy his family and himself. It would be four years before all the subsequent litigation was resolved.

Fifteen years later, the Stephens organization declines to add any information to the public record on the Markle case, except to say that more sophisticated controls are now in place that would prevent a similar scam.

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The New Year is upon us, which means it's time again peer down upon the tastes of your fellow reviewers with self assured judgement! That's right, it's the Best Horror Films of 2021! And as always, we want to thank everyone on /r/HorrorReviewed for our continued growth and success this year; let's keep it up!

So without further ado, welcome to our fifth annual official voting thread for the sub, where everyone can represent the movies that made 2021 so terrifying (or perhaps comforting during lengthy isolation ((I cannot express the existential dread of realizing that I did not need to alter this line from last year)))! Check out the below rules and let us know what you think in the comments!

1. List your (up to) top ten favorite horror films in ranked order, with #1 being your absolute favorite, #2 being your second favorite, and so on. Listing a film as your #1 pick will give it 10 points, your #2 pick receives 9 points, #3 receives 8 points...

2. Please format the movie title to include director, to ensure that we tally points for the correct films and to help people learn from your suggestions! ex. The Witch - Robert Eggers

3. If you don't have 10 films to list, that's okay. Just make a list no greater than 10 adhering to the above rules and your votes will still get points weighted appropriately.

4. Upvoting or downvoting doesn't matter! Everyone gets their say, so play nice!

5. Discussion is encouraged; just keep it to responses to the lists to make it easier for us to scroll through top level posts and tally points.

6. If you have concern that a film is not actually a 2021 release, please let the mods know so that we can investigate it. We will seek out an explanation for any such reports before discounting any votes (different release date per country, film festival showing, etc.)

7. The deadline is January 14th so you have 2 weeks to cast your votes. Nothing is final until the day voting ends, so feel free to adjust/edit your list until then as necessary. Points will then be counted and the results will be announced shortly after!

As is tradition I have created a Letterboxd List of all the nominations. Once voting closes, I'll put all the point totals in the notes, and sort the list by them. Until that time, the nominations are in alphabetical order.

I choose Soul of Cinder because he's very tall and only the flames would be able to reveal it's presence.

All bosses on this poll would make us shit our pants though.

To clarify I mean the boss is being stealthy.

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One of the many 2022 horror films I'm highly anticipating is You Won't Be Alone scheduled to release in theaters on 1 April 2022.

Noomi Rapace (Prometheus) is the lead star in the film. It's about a young girl who is kidnapped and then transformed into a witch by an ancient spirit. She kills a local villager and takes her shape to live life in her skin in order to understand what it means to be human.

‎Horror of the 2010s Ranked, a list of films by SaiEnder14 • Letterboxd

Notes

- please read description before screaming at me.

- yes, I'm a 40 year old who grew up on 70s & 80s horror, but still loves Ari Aster... I am not ashamed.

UPDATE: Added the following titles. All from 2016. Ranking in ().

• We Go On (171)
• The Shallows (174)
• The Boy (177)
• Terrifier (184)
• The Forest (189)
• The Darkness (191)
• Abattoir (192)
• The Love Witch (194)
• Shut In (196)
• Don't Knock Twice (198)
• The Windmill Massacre (199)
• From a House on Willow Street (201)
• Exit 14 (221)

UPDATE 2: Added the following titles. Followed by (Year) (Rank).

• Black Swan (2017) (6)
• Revenge (2017) (16)
• Mother! (2017) (18)
• You're Next (2011) (19)
• Alien: Covenant (2017) (27)
• 10 Cloverfield Lane (2016) (29)
• Kill List (2011) (45)
• The Neon Demon (2016) (65)
• Hush (2016) (67)
• Hounds of Love (75)
• Mama (2013) (81)
• Troll Hunter (2010) (82)
• The Girl with All the Gifts (2016) (86)
• World War Z (2013) (90)
• Get Out (2017) (142)
• Unsane (2018) (208)

UPDATE 3: Added the following titles. Followed by (Year) (Rank).

• Marrowbone (2017) (111)
• The Cured (2017) (136)

Hey y'all,

For disclosure I was Mormon and now consider myself Ex-Mo, horror films have always been a comfort for me so I'm curious to process what I've been through via film. What are some of the best cult films?? If I had a preference; 80's horror would be a go-to but I'm open for anything.

EDIT: YO!! I think I have more than enough films!! Thank you all so much for your time and for the recommendations!! Have a blessed Thanksgiving weekend!!

i’ve noticed recently that there’s been this sudden push of horror films including LGBTQ characters. this has been a long time coming and i’m glad to see this happening! are there any other films besides the ones i’m listing below that have quality queer characters? here are (most) of the ones i have seen lately

halloween kills candyman fear street silent night werewolves within

this will probably get downvoted a ton lmaooo but if you’re seeing this post pls leave a rec!

Repost, as automod seems to have deleted the previous one.

After seeing a post about gender differences in IMDB ratings for Pixar movies on another sub, I wondered how Amazon's WoT would compare to other series and films.

The numbers below are derived from a simple (mean male rating) - (mean female rating) calculation, without any correcting for different overall means between genders, differences between age groups, etc. Thus, the numbers themselves are fairly meaningless. The relative positions, on the other hand, are meaningful -- as well as quite telling.

Please note that the numbers/positions do not indicate quality. Rather, they indicate the relative difference in reception among male vs female audiences.

With that out of the way, here's the list. Titles followed by a (date) are movies, while the rest are series.

• Predator (1987): 0.6
• Conan the Barbarian (1982): 0.6
• Top Gear: 0.5
• First Blood (Rambo) (1982): 0.5
• Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991): 0.5
• Saving Private Ryan (1998): 0.5
• 24: 0.4
• Breaking Bad: 0.3
• The Wire: 0.3
• The Sopranos: 0.3
• Better Call Saul: 0.3
• True Detective: 0.2
• Fargo: 0.2
• Daredevil: 0.2
• The Boys: 0.2
• Band of Brothers: 0.1
• House of Cards: 0.1
• The Expanse: 0.1
• Narcos: 0.1
• Cobra Kai: 0.1
• Punisher: 0.0
• Castlevania: 0.0
• Mad Men: 0.0
• Stranger Things: -0.1
• Arcane: -0.1
• Game of Thrones: -0.1
• Vikings: -0.1
• 13 Reasons Why: -0.1
• Treadstone: -0.2
• The Witcher: -0.2
• Shadow and Bone: -0.2
• The Magicians: -0.2
• Chilling Adventures of Sabrina: -0.3
• Warrior Nun: -0.3
• Locke and Key: -0.3
• Fate: The Winx Saga: -0.3
• New Girl: -0.3
• The Shannara Chronicles: -0.4
• Supernatural: -0.4
• The Originals: -0.4
• The Bridges of Madison County (1995): -0.4
• The 100: -0.4
• The Devil Wears Prada (2006): -0.5
• Trainwreck (2015): -0.5
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer: -0.5
• Frozen (2013): -.05
• True Blood: -0.5
• My Best Friend's Wedding (1997): -0.5
• How To Lose a Guy in 10 Days (2003): -0.6
• P.S. I Love You (2007): -0.6
• Dawson's Creek: -0.7
• Steven Universe: -0.7
• Pretty Woman (1990): -0.7
• Melrose Place: -0.7
• Yentl (1983): -0.7
• Ally McBeal: -0.8
• Bridget Jones's Diary (2001): -0.8
• One Tree Hill: -0.8
• Wheel of Time: -0.8
• Shadowhunters: -0.9
• The Vampire Diaries: -0.9
• Supergirl: -0.9
• Outlander: -0.9
• Twilight (2008): -1.0
• Sex and the City: -2.0

My sister is one of those people who insists that the reason Captain Marvel, A Wrinkle in Time and Eternals got bad reviews is because there are too many white reviewers and that they had a cognitive bias against ethnic minorities or women as leading roles in big budget films, such as superhero films.

I disagree, because there is not enough evidence that reviewers are acting on any cognitive bias, and it's wrong to paint over all of them with one brush.

I think that also believes that Mauler and gang dislike the movies because of this cognitive bias. How would you respond to this? Is there a possibility that they do have this bias? If so, how can you prove that it exists and that the movies they are in are not just bad?

I think she is also in the 'film is subjective' gang since she argues that a black person would view a film like Black Panther differently to a white person.

We all love Laurie Strode, but she drops the knife about 20 times in Halloween for no reason. What film do you think has the most competent final girl, as in made good choices, not stupid mistakes etc.

For me I would put our lead in You’re Next. Her all out Rambo fight back against the intruders was incredible. Maybe some of her judgment was off with who she could trust. But to me it’s a tie between her and the lead in It Follows. I felt how she went about hunting down the guy she had sex with, learning the rules, trying different options to stop it all made sense.

So who are yours?

I watched 'Titane' when it first came out in cinemas months ago, but have only now gotten around to writing about it. I think this is because I wasn't sure what to make of it at first. I was expecting something more along the lines of 'Raw', Ducournau's first feature film, and was definitely not expecting the depth and complexity offered up in 'Titane'. Horror is rarely discussed on this subreddit, especially new horror (I am sure we are all sick and tired of hearing so many people rave on and on about A24), but I think commercially successful female directed body horror is so rare that it is worth discussing if for that reason alone.

You can read my full review of 'Titane' here, but I thought I'd post a couple of spoiler-free paragraphs to this subreddit for anybody who may be interested.

Following the success of her first feature film ‘Raw’ in 2016, French director Julia Ducournau returned in 2021 to provide us with yet another extraordinary addition to the body horror genre. ‘Titane’ is a body horror with depth, a rare horror film which balances the gruesome and grisly with the tender and touching. Ducournau’s second feature film follows Alexia, a woman who has a titanium implant fitted into her head following a car accident as a child. Working as a showgirl at a motor show, the majority of the film focuses on the unusual circumstances Alexia finds herself in following her pursuit of various sexual, often brutal desires. ‘Titane’ surprised me in its complexity and ability to deal with a multitude of themes through its visceral imagery and unconventional narrative. Whilst Ducournau has addressed womanhood and female sexuality in both ‘Raw’ and her 2011 short ‘Junior’, ‘Titane’ is her most polished and thought-provoking work yet, a film which showcases her growth as a director.

‘Titane’ is a must watch for any fan of the body horror genre. With Cronenberg-like bodily mutilation and mutation and a pregnancy which echoes back to the grotesque baby we all know and love, or at least, love to feel repulsed by, in Lynch’s ‘Eraserhead’, Ducournau’s second film is littered with homages to her male predecessors. This is not to say, however, that ‘Titane’ is without originality. Even with the growth of female directed body horror ushered in by the French extremity movement, which wielded such grotesque creations as ‘Dans m

Who do you guys think is the most beloved person in the world of horror movies? Director, actor, writer? Just curious to hear your thoughts of who and why.

Personally I think John Carpenter has to be fairly high on the list, since he's made multiple iconic horror films over the years.

What do you guys think?

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I'm really happy that someone suggested this as the possible movie I was looking for, it wasn't.

But after I watched the trailer on Prime to make sure, I thought it looked good and rented it from Prime store.

I watched it last night and I really enjoyed it, I like the premise of some sort of supernatural apocalypse, rather than the over used zombie or viral disaster horror movies. Exactly what is going on and exactly what's happening to the characters isn't explicitly explained, but by the end things are clearer if not obvious. we are left to think for ourselves as to what's going on but there are clues in the background.

From listening to the local radio DJ who's broadcasting in the background, to some throwaway lines and dialogue that needs to be pieced together. From the start it seems like the supernatural is accepted as their reality, two men arrive at a motel rest stop covered in blood, the female clerk doesn't bat an eyelid other than telling them that the services are for customers only and making them spend some money.

The customers sitting in the diner ignore them altogether even when the building starts to shake, presumably signaling the arrival of the supernatural beings the two men are running from, the customers don't give any reaction, other than some subtle looks from the clerk at the till.

The clerk looks like she hasn't slept in a couple of days with dark marks under her eyes, and the furtive glances at one of the men who arrived covered in blood suggests she has an idea of what's coming for them, but she does not seem worried about her own safety she doesn't show any concern or panic.

The two men who are running try to outrun the entities that are chasing them and they drive along a straight highway but they come straight back to the same rest stop and motel even though they didn't make any turns.

They are obviously surprised and don't seem to understand what's happening, but the female clerk is outside smoking a cigarette when they come back to where they started.

Her hand is shaking slightly as she smokes which I thought was subtle and a nice touch which suggested an underlying fear on her part.

Soon after one of the men decides to stop running from the entities and after a short argument the other is quickly killed by one. But the other unnamed man is left alone.

He walks slowly back to the motel and three of the entities appear to be watching him and usher him into a motel room where some stuff that will make sense late

Possibly Australian movie, made in the past 20 years. Not a supernatural horror.

IT'S THE PACT 2012 !!!

I didn't recognized it from the crappy trailer because they made it look like a completely different movie! Its edited to look like a low quality supernatural b-movie & also I didn't remember the girl character in the trailer with the bad kabuki make up!

Sorry about all the confusion & thank you everyone for helping!