Hi everyone,
I was doing some light reading this weekend about the Romans, and I have a question. The German author continuously references "die rรถmischen Nordwestprovinzen" or "the Roman northwest provinces". I tried googling it, but there doesn't seem to be a list of provinces which are actually included in that? The author also didn't mention it. So I'm kinda confused. It's in the North and West, obviously, but how far?
I'm going to base my list off the following Wikipedia map (Trajan AD117): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_province#/media/File:RomanEmpire_117.svg
The province names obviously changed throughout the years, but I just want a rough reference of which region I'm supposed to be thinking of.
That would be ...
- Britannia
- Germania Inferior
- Germania Superior
- Raetia
- Lugdunensis
What about ...
- Noricum (?)
- Aquitania (?)
- Narbonensis (?)
Do Tarraconensis, Lusitania and Baetica in the west count as well?
What about Pannonia and Dalmatia? Those seem to be too central to me.
I wasn't aware of the Alpes Poenia / Cottiae / Maritimae, but I'm excluding those as well?
Please enlighten me. Thank you very much! :)
- Martin
(Repost because my first try did not manage to attract attention)
So I tried reading up a bit about the history of Bavaria and its very origin (if we may call it that) leaves me a bit baffled.
Apparently, by 487, where my alter ego in this scenario lives, the area south of the Danube river, had been an integral part of the Roman Empire, settled by a mixture of Roman colonists from Italy and Celts (?). In the 4th and 5th century the region had more or less constantly been invaded by Germanic tribes who also settle down in the area. And now I am suddenly ordered to leave and head for Italy.
Why is this in the first place? Why does Odoacer want me and my local fellows to leave but not the populations of, say, Pannonia, Dalmatia, or Gaul? Why are we not left behind like the Britons? Who am I anyway? How likely is it that I'm the descendant of Roman colonists from Italy anyways, or am I just some kind of Romanized Celt? How densely populated is the area I'm living in? Apparently there's more than enough room for those pesky invaders to settle down, so there are probably not that many people left.
So now anyway I'm packing my belongings. Am I entirely on my own to head South or am I supposed to be escorted by soldiers? Are there even legionaries left in the area in the first place? What happens if (not when) I manage to arrive in Italy? Do we even know if people made it through? I do understand that there might not really be that many sources left from that time period that might offer us some insights but maybe archaeology is helping us out a bit here?
EDIT: Formatting.
So I formed the Roman Empire. My current ruler was asatru, but his predecessor was orthodox.
Now the casus beli is missing with the new ruler. Will switching back to orthodox fix it? And how about being Hellenistic?
I am interested in what everyday changes there were when after Roman influence stopped and the Middle Ages were beginning...
Hey, is there anywhere online where I can check exactly which territories make up each Roman Imperial province in CK3?
While reunifying the empire I distinctly remember seeing messages whenever I got each province back fully in Roman hands (just like in CK2), but I could not find a way to check the territorial boundaries.
Thanks for any help!
Or was the act of renaming to anything at all the punishment? Was there any significance to the new name, or was that just an accepted alternative name at that point?
I understand that "romanization" is likely a difficult concept to measure and the situation likely varied tremendously over time, but I'm thinking of things like language and religious practices. Outside of Italy, where did traditionally "Roman" culture spread most successfully?
If I were a citizen born and raised in Rome, in what province outside of Italy would I likely feel most culturally at home? My instinct is Hispania based on modern day similarities, but I'm curious about Gaul and North Africa. I know the Greek language was dominant in the eastern half of the empire, but was there otherwise a strong cultural overlap between those regions and Rome?
I came across this image (https://brilliantmaps.com/roman-empire-gdp/) which shows the GDP per capita in different roman provinces. I'm just curious why Italy is sooooo much wealthier than any other province? Like there is a bigger difference in wealth between Italy and Egypt than Egypt and the poorest Roman province. Were the citizens living in Italy really so much better off than citizens living outside of Italy?
Iโm kind of curious what sort of qualities the Romans associated, whether they were true or not, with people from particular provinces in the empire. For example, a lot of Americans stereotype West Virginians as poor, coal mining unsophisticated mountain folk, Floridians as absolute madmen always managing to make the front page for doing something dumb (usually involving at least one of a gator and a golf cart), Texans as yeehawing conservative cowboys, New Jerseyans as rude, loud people with Sopranos accents who have at least one family member whoโs in the mob, etc. What stereotypes did the Romans have for some of the different provinces of their empire?
So I tried reading up a bit about the history of Bavaria and its very origin (if we may call it that) leaves me a bit baffled.
Apparently, by 487, where I live (EDIT: Not me personally IRL, my alter ego in this scenario), the area south of the Danube river, had been an integral part of the Roman Empire, settled by a mixture of Roman colonists from Italy and Celts (?). In the 4th and 5th century the region had more or less constantly been invaded by Germanic tribes who also settle down in the area. And now I am suddenly ordered to leave and head for Italy.
- Why is this in the first place? Why does Odoacer want me and my local fellows to leave but not the populations of, say, Pannonia, Dalmatia, or Gaul? Why are we not left behind like the Britons?
- Who am I anyway? How likely is it that I'm the descendant of Roman colonists from Italy anyways, or am I just some kind of Romanized Celt?
- How densely populated is the area I'm living in? Apparently there's more than enough room for those pesky invaders to settle down, so there are probably not that many people left.
- So now anyway I'm packing my belongings. Am I entirely on my own to head South or am I supposed to be escorted by soldiers? Are there even legionaries left in the area in the first place?
- What happens if (not when) I manage to arrive in Italy? Do we even know if people made it through?
I do understand that there might not really be that many sources left from that time period that might offer us some insights but maybe archaeology is helping us out a bit here?
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