A Brief History of the Totality of Western Thought [seriously] to Provide Context for Zarathustra (Part 4 of 8): Catholic Era, Peter Abelard (4 of 10)

Reminder of what we have covered so far:

Outline of Class

Peter Abelard

I originally included Abelard primarily to include some obscure arguments about the potentiality of the potential, which was a correction on Aristotle's conception of the potential.... mostly just to give a taste of how intricate and bizarre and serious and subtle the arguments of this era were, and what kind of work was being accomplished at this time.

However, our previous thinkers have given us this impression pretty well, and the works we have looked at from them are about as good for that as anything else.

So, you can

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This is the first of two videos I'm doing on Peter Abelard's view of universals youtube.com/watch?v=DyDPJ…
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Spring 1121– Peter Abelard, a French theologian and philosopher, is condemned and charged with the heresy of Sabellius in a synod at Soissons. Abelard writes "Sic et Non". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet…
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Translation needed for a sentence from Heloise d'Argenteuil's letter to Peter Abelard.

Hi there! My B.A. is in English and I've done quite a lot of research on Medieval scholars, Heloise d'Argenteuil and Peter Abelard. I even have a published paper on the dyad.

Basically, I still have notes on my favorite line from the letters, but my notes and all my online research is pulling up the English translation. I'm 95% sure the letters were originally written in Latin (I don't want to say 100% because it's been a few years for me).

I want the Latin version for many, many reasons, but currently it's for a custom art order I'm having commissioned.

Sorry if any of this was too vague. I'd happily explain more about what I'd like, or just the couple in general. It's fascinating.

The line is from letter 4, Heloise writing to Abelard. It can be translated: "Be content with having a place in my mind which you shall never lose."

I've also seen it as, "Be content knowing you have a place in my heart which you shall never lose."

Thank you!

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"Constant and frequent questioning is the first key to wisdom. … For through doubting we are led to inquire, and by inquiry we perceive the truth." β€” Peter Abelard (1079-1142) Sic et Non, Prologue (1120)

Image: ["On dull afternoons I'd go watch Heloise watch Abelard spread heresy like bonemeal in the palace gardens" The Lion in Winter]

http://thisnortheasternlife.blogspot.com/2016/04/quote-of-day-for-2016-04-22.html

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The wikipedia on Heloise suggests that she was already a renowned scholar before she met Peter Abelard; how would a relatively low-born woman go about becoming a prominent scholar in 12th century France?
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Peter Abelard, the quintessential INTJ

"Dissatisfied with the plodding, meditative instruction offered by even the most respected scholars, Abelard cast himself as a knight errant, armed with logic, ever ready to joust with his masters. On one occasion he boldly offered to interpret the Book of Ezekiel after a single night's preparation, rejecting the pan-icked entreaties of wide-eyed fellow students that he allow him-self more time for such a difficult text. "

"Again and again, having incited the jealousy of lesser minds (as he sees it), Abelard is forced to decamp to another locale, even as the sheer vigor of his intellect pulls admirers in tow: "I was so carried away by my love of learning that I renounced the glory of a military life, and withdrew from the court of Mars in order to be educated in the lap of Minerva. I preferred the weapons of dialectic to all the other teachings of philosophy, and armed with these I chose the con-flicts of disputation instead of the trophies of war.""

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The philosophical developments of Peter Abelard: from nominalism to theology plato.stanford.edu/entrie…
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Peter Abernathy = Peter Abelard, and other musings

I was reading up on the quote "A rose is a rose is a rose." Gertrude Stein is indeed responsible for the quote, however she was not the first to use roses as an example of a name evoking powerful imagery. Peter Abelard was a famous theologian who did just that, and it's too much of a coincidence that WestWorld's Peter Abernathy has such a similar name.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_is_a_rose_is_a_rose_is_a_rose

Also, Delos is an island in Greece that served as the birthplace of Greek Gods Apollo and Artemis. Artemis is a goddess associated with, among other things, nature and the wild. Kind of sounds like Dolores to me, although I admit I'm reaching a bit here. Just searching for clues in the clouds.

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Peter Abelard's 'nominalist'(irrealist) metaphysics [PDF] individual.utoronto.ca/pk…
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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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A Brief History of the Totality of Western Thought [seriously] to Provide Context for Zarathustra (Part 1 of 8)

Intro:

Nietzsche, in my view, is a revolutionary thinker. To understand him better, we need to understand revolutions in thought. In this post we will start with cave-man thinking and trace the history of thought in the West up through to Nietzsche.

We will then rewind the entire process and give N's hammer and his "turning on its head" approaches to each of these stages of development. By the time we are done, we should have a context for this book, Zarathustra, which N called "The greatest gift ever given man."

I will probably reduce entire paragraphs into brief sentences, so pay careful attention to the words chosen, because each line deserves paragraphs or pages or entire libraries which have actually been dedicated to each of these statements or to arguing against them. We will flush out the conversation more in comments and discussions, but this is too large a task to make into a post unless it is reduced as much as possible first.

revolutions in thought:

Keep in mind, that we will be tracing the development of thought, but we will be doing so always keeping in mind the larger conversation of what this development sets up for us in the WAYS of thinking and how those also develop. The ways in which we can think are changed through revolutions... the development of thoughts in most of the history of philosophy are the struggling philosophers trying to work out how to resolve a problem left over or created by the LAST revolution in a way of thinking. The revolution comes and then a new problem is struggled with and comes to a head in the next revolution which dissolves that problem and leaves a new, larger but subtler one.

After this INTRO part, we will actually look at most of the important contributors of Western thought, and we will see three such revolutions:

  • The world was ticking along just fine, except not so much
  • Socrates starts a new game
  • Descartes revolutionizes that game
  • Kant dissolves the emergent problems handed us by Cartesians and gives us a new dimension to the game
  • Nietzsche goes back to Socrates and stands him on his head. We are left trying to synthesize the entirety of Western Philosophy with the massive underpinnings from which it emerged.

philosophical progress as exponential growth in questionability:

One way I like to look at the history of philosophy is as "the history of what is questionable". The philosophers are making things thinkable that were never thinkable before. Philosophy develops b

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Personal life of Vitalik Buterin . (Loved how he found about BTC when he was 17 , dropped out of college and discovered Ethereum , the second largest and probably the most useful blockchain , when he was 19) Genuinely worth a Read !

Buterin was born in Kolomna, Russia, to Dmitry Buterin, a computer scientist, and Natalia Ameline. He lived in the area until the age of six when his parents emigrated to Canada in search of better employment opportunities. While in grade three of elementary school in Canada, Buterin was placed into a class for gifted children and was drawn to mathematics, programming, and economics. Buterin then attended the Abelard School, a private high school in Toronto. Buterin learned about Bitcoin, from his father, at the age of 17.

After high school, Buterin attended the University of Waterloo. There, he took advanced courses and was a research assistant for cryptographer Ian Goldberg, who co-created Off-the-Record Messaging and was the former board of directors chairman of the Tor Project. In 2012, he won a bronze medal in the International Olympiad in Informatics.

In 2013, he visited developers in other countries who shared his enthusiasm for code. He returned to Toronto later that year and published a white paper proposing Ethereum. He dropped out of university in 2014 when he was awarded with a grant of $100,000 from the Thiel Fellowship, a scholarship created by venture capitalist Peter Thiel and went to work on Ethereum full-time.

On 25 June 2017, Buterin was the subject of a death hoax originating from 4chan. On 30 November 2018, Buterin received an honorary doctorate from the Faculty of Business and Economics of the University of Basel on the occasion of the Dies Academicus.

On 12 May 2021, he donated $1 billion worth of the cryptocurrencies Shiba Inu and Ether to a COVID-19 relief fund in India.

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin?wprov=sfla1

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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Omar Khayyam, Al-Ghazali, and Ibn Rushd (2)

...continued from here (links to Omar and Al-Ghazali)

Tahafut al-Tahafut

The Incoherence of the Incoherence

Philosophical response to al-Ghazali's "The Incoherence of the Philosophers"

in 1095, the original came out

somewhere around just after 1180 the refutation was written, about 100 years later.

Presentation -- links to opening passage of Chapter 1 of "2 Years 8 Months and 28 Nights" which adds to "1001 nights" (as previously mentioned, the most censored work in the world); and is a Novel by Salman Rushdie, whose family name was changed by his Father to honor Ibn Rushd, and who wrote this novel with one of the main characters being Ibn Rushd and his battle with al-Ghazali. The rest of the chapter is in the Comments. Salman Rushdie, of course, also wrote some excellent and famous novels which earned him a death-sentence from the autocratic leader of Iran. continue reading the first chapter here. Or, much better still, buy yourself a copy.

Let's look at one chapter of this book, The Incoherence of the Incoherence:

>THE THIRD PROOF FOR THE ETERNITY OF THE WORLD
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>Ghazali says:
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>They insist on saying: The existence of the world is possible before its existence, as it is absurd that it should be impossible and then become possible; this possibility has no beginning, it is eternally unchangeable and the existence of the world remains eternally possible, for at no time whatever can the existence of the world be described as impossible; and if the possibility never ceases, the possible, in conformity with the possibility, never ceases either; and the meaning of the sentence, that the existence of the world is possible, is that the existence of the world is not impossible; and since its existence is eternally possible, it is never impossible, for if it were ever impossible, it would not be true that the existence of the world is eternally possible; and if it were not true that the existence of the

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What is a a bisexual person doing when they’re not dating anybody?

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Geddit? No? Only me?
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A Brief History of the Totality of Western Thought [seriously] to Provide Context for Zarathustra (Part 4 of 8): Catholic Era, Augustine (1 of 10)

Part 4

Reminder of what we have covered so far:

Outline of Class

  • Class Introduction
  • Part 1 of 8: Revolutions in Thought, History of Philosophy
    • Overview of Course
    • Revolutions in Thought
    • Time Machine
    • History of Philosophy
    • Intellectual Tools in Our Approach
  • Part 2 of 8: Pre-Philosophical Thought
    • Behaviorally Encoded Concepts
      • Animals and our Animal Ancestors
    • Image before Drama Gives Cultural Emergence
      • Cave Art
      • Statues
    • Drama before thought
      • Myth
      • Mysticism
      • Jungian Archetypes
      • Expansive Cultures semi-codified
    • The mythopoetic
      • Gilgamesh
      • Pharaohs
      • Moses
    • Conscious Story Construction
      • Homer and Sophocles
  • Part 3 of 8: The Pre-Socratic Revolution
    • The Thalesian Consummation
    • Initial Split:
      • Anaximander
      • Anaximenes
    • Growing Divide:
      • Pythagoras
      • Xenophanes
      • Heraclitus
    • Crisis Point:
      • Parmenides
      • Zeno
      • Anaxagoras
      • Empedocles
      • Atomists like Leucippus and Democritus
      • Sophists like Protagoras and Gorgias
    • The Socratic Consummation
    • Initial Splitting:
      • Plato
      • Aristotle

Where we are going now:

  • The Catholic Roman Expansion (The not-so-Dark Ages)--Still all footnotes to Plato, on the philosophical side-- but a strange preservation of the mythopoetic.
    • Augustin
    • Anselm
    • Omar Khayyam, Al-Ghazali, and Ibn Rushd
    • Peter Abelard
    • St Francis of Assisi
    • Fibonacci
    • Aquinas
    • John Wycliffe
    • The Priests
    • The Monks
  • The Cartesian Consummation Attempt -- Problem is Rationalism v. Empiricism (whence comes all our knowledge?)
    • Erasmus
    • Machiavelli
    • Copernicus
    • Moore
    • Luther
    • Calvin
    • Montaigne
    • Kepler
    • Bacon
    • Galileo
    • St. John of the Cross
    • Descartes
    • Spinoza
    • Leibnitz
    • Locke
    • Berkeley
    • Hume
  • The Kantian Con
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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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What did Spartacus say when the lion ate his wife?

Nothing, he was gladiator.

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Pun intended.
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No spoilers
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Covid problems
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What would be the best book to study the foundations of Western Philosophy including the said topics in the post?

I'm interested in knowing about the following:

  1. Pre-Socrates and Sophists (Eg: Thales, Anaximander, Anaximenes, Parmenides, Heraclites, Democritus, Protagoras
  2. Socrates and Plato
  3. Aristotle and Post Aristotle (Eg: Epictetus, Sextus Empiricus)
  4. Medieval Philosophy (Eg: Peter Abelard, Schools of Mu'tazilites and Asharites, Moses Maimonides)
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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I had a vasectomy because I didn’t want any kids.

When I got home, they were still there.

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Spi__
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I dislike karma whores who make posts that imply it's their cake day, simply for upvotes.

I won't be doing that today!

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The Ancient Romans II
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I'd like to dedicate this joke to my wisdom teeth.

[Removed]

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I did it, I finally did it. After 4 years and 92 days I went from being a father, to a dad.

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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How do you stop Canadian bacon from curling in your frying pan?

You take away their little brooms

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It this sub dead?

There hasn't been a post all year!

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Letting loose with these puns
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Couch potato
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Baka!
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All dad jokes are bad and here’s why

Why

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"By doubting we are led to question, by questioning we arrive at the truth." - Peter Abelard
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What did 0 say to 8 ?

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

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A Brief History of the Totality of Western Thought [seriously] to Provide Context for Zarathustra (in 8 parts) -- MasterLink

Purpose of this project

This series is here to test a proposition. Assumption: Philosophy is a conversation. It has to be done between two people. Through the course of this series we will talk about all of the major figures in philosophy, the history of the conversation as it has been recorded for us, and many of the minor figures as well. But there are any number of philosophical encyclopedias online. So we are not making another one. Instead, we are telling a story, and having a live conversation. That is the hypothesis we are going to test: There is a way to use technology to have a genuine meaningful philosophical conversation and teach and learn philosophy together. I do not know if this proposition is true or not, but I am going to incorporate any technological tools available and change the formatting of this series as we go to see if we cannot accomplish this.

It will only work if we are engaged with one another. I will make many statements in the course of this series, all of which can be argued against. I am hoping to find a few of you with the interest in this subject who will provide those arguments which will be the basis of the conversation where we will be shaping one another's views on these matters. All arguments are welcome. No rules exist or need to exist on types of contributions which can be made in these classes. Let's talk.

A note on style

Since this is the project, very little in this series will be written in an "academic ready-for-publication" sort of way. I will be writing all of these posts in a fast, first-draft, unedited sort of way. Once we get through it all I will probably go back and edit and refine and expand the notes; but not on the first go around.

The project

(it would be helpful to provide some context to understand Zarathustra)

Very well.

But first. A word or two about the classes that follow:

This is my interpretation of Western Philosophy. I know from experience that about 95% plus of all professors of philosophy will disagree with most of the "lenses" I use to interpret the history of philosophy in these classes.

Why is this ok with me?

First, because, that is the nature of philosophy. We argue about everything. This is not seen as a weakness but a strength of our project. We disagree about the purpose of philosophy. We disagree about the methods we should use when doing philoso

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Expanded and Refined Outline of Class on the History of Western Thought

Outline

  • Class Introduction
  • Overview of Course
    • Outline of Class Content
    • Definitions
    • Why study history of philosophy
    • What is history of philosophy
    • Tools for our approach
  • Pre-philosophical Thought
    • Behaviorally Encoded Concepts
      • Animals and our Animal Ancestors
    • Image before Drama Gives Cultural Emergence
      • Cave Art
      • Statues
    • Drama before thought
      • Myth
      • Mysticism
      • Jungian Archetypes
      • Expansive Cultures semi-codified
  • The mythopoetic
    • Gilgamesh
    • Pharaohs
    • Moses
    • Homer and Sophocles
  • The (pre-)Socratic revolution (dialectic search for the arche)--THE CRISIS EMERGES with the new types who want to have it all out in a go!
    • Thales
    • Anaximander
    • Anaximenes
    • Pythagoras
    • Xenophanes
    • Heraclitus
    • Parmenides
    • Zeno
    • Anaxagoras
    • Atomists like Leucippus and Democritus
    • Sophists like Protagoras and Gorgias
    • Empedocles
    • Socrates
    • Plato
    • Aristotle
  • The Catholic Roman Expansion (The not-so-Dark Ages)--Still all footnotes to Plato, on the philosophical side-- but a strange preservation of the mythopoetic.
    • Augustin
    • Anselm
    • Omar Khayyam, Al-Ghazali, and Ibn Rushd
    • Peter Abelard
    • St Francis of Assisi
    • Fibonacci
    • Aquinas
    • John Wycliffe
    • The Priests
    • The Monks
  • The Cartesian Revolution -- Problem is Rationalism v. Empiricism (whence comes all our knowledge?)
    • Erasmus
    • Machiavelli
    • Copernicus
    • Moore
    • Luther
    • Calvin
    • Montaigne
    • Kepler
    • Bacon
    • Galileo
    • St. John of the Cross
    • Descartes
    • Spinoza
    • Leibnitz
    • Locke
    • Berkeley
    • Hume
  • The Kantian Revolution -- Dissolving the "rationalism v. empiricism" old problem, now interpret this one as objective or subjective phenomena
    • Kant
    • Fichte
    • Lamarck
    • Hegel
    • Schopenhauer
    • Mill
    • Darwin
    • Kierkegaard
    • Thoreau
    • Marx
  • Nietzsche as judge throughout (rewind time) -- Dissolving pessimism v. optimism of nihilism... Resurrection of the mythopoetic or total reduction to materialism?
    • William James
    • Freud
    • Jung
    • Dewey
    • Bertrand Russell
    • von Mises
    • CS Lewis
    • Price
    • Foucault
    • Chomsky
    • Allan Bloom
    • Ε½iΕΎek
    • Peterson
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