In my sociolinguistics class, in learning about dialects, the professor mentioned that women supposedly are more likely to use prestige dialects than men are, apparently universally or anyway in many different cultures. I was wondering what sociolinguists have to say about why that might be. There are a bunch of people who repeat the claim, e.g. these sources I found in another thread here:
>In virtually all sociolinguistic studies that include a sample of males and females, there is evidence for this conclusion about their linguistic behavior: women use fewer stigmatized and non-standard variants than do men of the same social group in the same circumstances.
J. K. Chambers, Sociolinguistic Theory
>In careful speech, women use fewer stigmatized forms than men, and are more sensitive than men to the prestige pattern.
William Labov, Sociolinguistic Patterns
>Women consistently produce forms which are nearer to the prestige norm more frequently than men.
Suzanne Romaine, The Language of Children and Adolescents: The Acquisition of Communicative Competence
But I haven't had much luck finding an explanation of why this is supposed to be the case. In particular, I'd be interested if sociolinguists think this is related to any kind of general behavior difference between men and women or some kind of different relation they each tend to have to prestige/status, or if it's thought to be specific to language use for some reason. I'm really just looking for anything helpful to read on the subject. Thanks!
Hi, I'm a teacher of English Language Learners, but instead of immigrants or children thereof, I'm mostly teaching First Nations students who speak "Rez English". I'm familiar with the research (mostly coming out of University of Victoria) about how RezEng is totally legit and all, but I still don't know how to A. teach my students & their parents that their language is legit but they still need to learn Academic English, or B. what to DO in class or support time to help them gain Academic English skills. I need a teaching community to collaborate with, but I'm out in the sticks and my many google searches haven't hit on anything yet. If anybody knows of any persons or groups I can connect with, I'd be super-duper grateful!!
Hi all! I'm new here so great to meet yous ;) I'm currently learning European Portuguese from an online class. I'm enjoying it (although finding it really difficult), and would like to do extra work on top of the assigned homework. However, it seems that the vast majority of language resources are Brazilian Portuguese. I know there are lots of differences between the two languages, and my teacher has already (jokingly) given out to me for pronouncing a world in a Brazilian accent (accidental). Would it be possible to use Brazilian Portuguese resources to supplement my European Portuguese learning (for example, listening to Brazilian music and doing the Brazilian Portuguese duo lingo course)? I'm learning Portuguese mainly for fun and because I like going to Portugal on holiday. However, I also want to visit Brazil at some stage and one of my friends is Brazilian, so I'm not wedded to either European or Brazilian Portuguese. Any advice would be much appreciated!
I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.
Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.
Apologies for the length. This is a big subject, can't think of how to make it more concise.
On a basic level, we all know about language difference vs. disorder. But my experience in the field, albeit limited, tells me that the nitty gritty of only working on disorder and not difference does not always happen successfully. We do receive training on cultural sensitivity and dialectal differences, but it usually only scratches the surface... What I have learned from linguistics has really opened my eyes to prescriptive vs. descriptive approaches to language and how that can apply to our field.
This seems especially pertinent in a school setting, where practically everyone, educators and admin, have ingrained prescriptive ideals about language, even when this may be painted over by a few layers of sensitivity training and some knowledge of how dialects can differ from standard forms. Even SLPs often have these ingrained prescriptive ideas. When people start talking about "proper language" or "correct grammar," it's often an oblique reference to prescriptive grammar norms that hold the standard language as a gold standard rather than to actual disorders/delays. Prescriptive grammar is the norm and is by and large dominant in educational settings. It is ingrained in teachers, parents, SLPs, students, and in the system.
Many of these things in language that are colloquial and/or dialectal sound "wrong" to us because of our prescriptive conditioning, even when they are perfectly ordinary utterances that could easily come out of the mouth of a typical speaker, although usually lower SES or rural (these characteristics often correlate with more nonstandard features). Examples: things like double/multiple negatives (ain't never got no), "got/gots" instead of standard forms of "have," "... and me" as the subject in a sentence, or even using "is" for plural nouns. These types of things often set off the "improper" grammar alarm in our heads, but these are systematic variations of our language that are characteristic of multiple regional dialects as well as colloquial registers and ethnolects of our language, things that can be formally studied by scholars and described in terms of grammatical rules and structures that are no less complex or valid than the ones that describe our standard language (random examples: https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110900019.507/html [https:
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I'm surprised it hasn't decade.
For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.
I said "hey look, an escaPEA"
No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!
Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂
It really does, I swear!
I am talking about pimsleur.
Because she wanted to see the task manager.
They’re on standbi
Pilot on me!!
Nothing, he was gladiator.
Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.
This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.
If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.
Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.
When I got home, they were still there.
What did 0 say to 8 ?
" Nice Belt "
So What did 3 say to 8 ?
" Hey, you two stop making out "
I won't be doing that today!
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Where ever you left it 🤷♀️🤭
This morning, my 4 year old daughter.
Daughter: I'm hungry
Me: nerves building, smile widening
Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.
She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.
Thank you all for listening.
There hasn't been a post all year!
You take away their little brooms
It was about a weak back.
It’s pronounced “Noel.”
After all his first name is No-vac
What, then, is Chinese rap?
Edit:
Notable mentions from the comments:
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Spanish/Swedish/Swiss/Serbian hits
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French/Finnish art
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Country/Canadian rap
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Chinese/Country/Canadian rock
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Turkish/Tunisian/Taiwanese rap
Hi, I'm a teacher of English Language Learners, but instead of immigrants or children thereof, I'm mostly teaching First Nations students who speak "Rez English". I'm familiar with the research (mostly coming out of University of Victoria) about how RezEng is totally legit and all, but I still don't know how to A. teach my students & their parents that their language is legit but they still need to learn Academic English, or B. what to DO in support time (we don't have class time) to help them gain Academic English skills. I need a teaching community to collaborate with, but I'm out in the sticks and my many google searches haven't hit on anything yet. If anybody knows of any persons or groups I can connect with, I'd be super-duper grateful!
