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Edit; I am against the experimental vaccines, but promoting excessive unsubstantiated fear in the vaccsinated can have detrimental effects.
Our NNN community needs to recognize the importance of a real scientific phenomenon built into every pharmaceutical treatment or medication that has ever existed.
It’s called the placebo effect, and the nocebo effect.
It is the power of positive (or negative) thinking on physical health and well-being.
Whether or not you or someone you know has taken the vacs, it’s really important to maintain a positive state of mind.
This actually may be protecting people that took the vacs, ironically, because “believing” (feeling confident) in the medication is protective to an extent.
Being fearful, nervous, untrusting of a medication that a person has taken could have detrimental effects on health.
Just something to be mindful of.... as we are critical of the covid vacs, we need to be aware of this known phenomenon. We shouldn’t be spreading fear unnecessarily. i.e. not telling people that they will be dead in the next couple years. Promoting excess fear in the vacsinated may be a self-fulfilling prophecy for future health problems.
Of course we need to continue to be informative and honest.
But if you are conversing with people who have already received the vacs, we should encourage positive thinking and moving forward while doing the best they can to maintain their health.
There is enough evidence proving that the vacs alone is dangerous to children and young adults (myocarditis), along with other risks regarding menstrual cycles, blood clots, body tremors etc.
At this point, I think that the placebo effect is having a greater impact because the vast majority of people taking the vacsine also believe in its effectiveness.
The human mind is a curious thing.
Promote truth. Educate people on the risks, but also on the importance of maintaining a healthy state of mind, regardless of the situation.
Let’s be the bigger person and not let our enemies “win” by letting them destroy us any further. We know they’re dangerous. But we don’t know to what extent. We also know the power of the human spirit and mind. Let’s not foster any self-fulfilling prophecies by envisioning/promoting mass injuries or fatality. Promote the truth, spread the data that we know right now. The future is still malleable.
Disclaimer: I am not a scientist. This is just a topic that deeply interests me, and I’m hoping some of the real scientists here can educate me a bit. Apologies in advance for my layman's vocabulary which is likely to be clumsy/inaccurate at times.
Onto the question. I’ve run across some literature on how the endogenous opioid system has been implicated in the phenomenon of placebo. Evidence suggests that opioid antagonists block the effects of expectancy, including the placebo effect (e.g., Amanzio & Benedetti, 1999).
However, among the literature I’ve browsed, I’ve only ever seen that endogenous opioids are connected to placebo analgesic responses, which makes sense, because opioids can be analgesic. But this made me wonder: could the endogenous opioid system also play a role in nocebo? If so, how would that work? My rudimentary grasp of endogenous opioids doesn’t square with the idea of a patient feeling worse, due to expectancy.
Moreover, because naloxone has been shown to completely block a number of placebo analgesic responses, I'm wondering whether an opioid antagonist might also work to block the worsening of symptoms seen in the nocebo effect.
Unfortunately, I don’t have access to any medical/academic journals, so 1) my “research” has been pretty shallow and 2) I won’t be able to read the totality of any articles you link to me, if they’re behind a paywall.
Thank you so much, in advance, for any insight you share.
Two days ago I titrated up to 400 mcg of Huperzine A after 4 weeks of use and I've noticed intense agitation, restlessness, sweating, fast heart rate, appetite supression and wakefulness. These are the effects of a stimulant, not a parasympathotomimetic, which is what Huperzine A is supposed to be. The agitation is actually quite distressing. Why is this happening? Is this a nocebo? Especially the fast heart rate makes no sense to me. I know that with anticholinergics, at low doses they can cause paradoxic bradycardia, so could low doses of cholinergics cause paradoxic tachycardia? Because prior to 400 mcg I had no (noticable) change in heart rate.
So last week or earlier this week i made a post about how i just took my first Fin pill after being on the fence for 2.5 years and being traumatized from the stories i've read here
I havent experienced anything so far (please God let it continue like this)
The only thing that has been fucking with my mind the past 2 days is that sometimes i feel things on my chest and i automatically fucking freak out about gyno
Sometimes it's inside my chest and i get paranoid that it's gyno or something
It's just a feel. Its not a burning sensation, it doesnt hurt when i touch, etc
To those who had gyno on Fin: Are the signs clear? Like when you feel what you feel is it very clear?
Im just paranoid as hell im 99% sure it's nothing but i just want to know what those initial gyno signs feel like.
Edit: Im getting even more paranoid, i feel like im definitely feeling something in my chest area but it's not painful, definitely not painful. Its like it's just something.
Fuck
I've been thinking about starting finasteride for my receding hairline for a few years (im 23, first noticed some recession when I was 18 but it's been pretty slow) and I finnaly made the jump. About 2-3 hours after taking my first dose (5mg split into 6) I started noticing my nipples burning a little. I was worried about gyno before as I have a bit of puffy nipples left from puberty and the sensation still didn't go away (day 2 now). I searched around but could't find how fast the hormones shift after taking your first pill. I hope it is just something made up in my head but im just not sure what to think anymore. Should I give it a few days? Glad to hear any advice, thanks.
I've been taking 5% minoxidil for like 12 days now, I apply it twice a day, 5 sprays (1ml) each time. So for like 2-3 days I'm feeling that my superficial temporal artery of left side is kind of dilated. I can feel it's pulsation from both the sides ( which is completely normal ) , but the one on the left seems little bit dilated ( like it's bulged ) , has anyone experienced anything like this, or heard of the same? Or it's normal?
DISCLAIMER : ni hanya pendapat aku
Yang dah tengok video latest Ajar mesti faham ape tu nacebo. Nocebo adelah satu kondisi mental atau psikologi yang berlawanan dengan placebo.
Secara ringkasnya nocebo ni kita akan rasa sakit kalau kita diberitahu yang kita akan sakit walaupon tiada apa yang sakitkan kita. Kesakitan khalayan.
Nocebo ni boleh jadikan ubat yang kita makan tak berkesan, maksudnya kalau kita makan ubat demam, tapi kita percaya bahawa demam tu takkan baik, maka ada peluang demam tu memang takkan baik.
So here's the thing, dalam Islam kita percaya bahawa tuhan boleh sembuhkan segala penyakit dan kita disuruh untuk berdoa supaya sembuh. Dekat sini kita letak kepercayaan kepada tuhan yang mana akan batalkan nocebo ni. Psikologi pesakit akan percaya yang dia boleh sembuh membuatkan ubat2 pesakit tersebut lebih berkesan.
Jadi pada pendapat saya, Islam menghalang kita dari berfikiran nocebo yang memudaratkan. Maaf panjang
[tl;dr] I was feeling fine for so many days off of Fin, I took one tablet and immediately felt the sides within a couple of minutes. Physically impossible, right? Yeah, my brain hates these tablets I guess.
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So I’ve been taking Fin and Min tablets for more than a month now. I started with a low dosage daily by cutting the pills in half, because it was my first time and I wanted to go slow with the side effects.
Didn’t feel any mental sides like brain fog, depression, etc. and no palpitations nor rapid heartbeats either. In fact, I didn’t feel any sides for an entire week. I thought I was home free.
The sexual sides came during the 2nd week which are the typical: softer erections, low libido, cold/white shrunken flaccid, etc. I continued with my dosage and all of these disappeared by the 3rd week. I’m back to pre-Fin levels, my wife tells me the same.
But the deal-breaker came when my nipples began to itch and tingle on the 4th week. I immediately stopped taking Fin, cold turkey. A few days of breast aches and anxious waiting, these symptoms subsided as well.
(I’ve messaged a bunch of users on r/tressless, r/steroids, r/testosterone about this and they told me it’s actually difficult for Fin to cause gyno, especially since I was taking it at a low dosage. And that tingly nipples is normal when we play with our hormones.)
I was feeling so fine that I’ve decided to restart dosage.
Anyway after a week of feeling fine, I took my 0.5mg tablet of Finasteride this morning for the first time in a while. I was feeling anxious and nervous...
Sure enough, my chest began to ache and tingle again. The kicker? It’s only been a minute or so. How the heck can Fin circulate through my blood stream within a minute of taking it? It’s impossible.
NOCEBO is real guys. Kinda ironic.
I think I have a strong nocebo effect when I took finasteride.
Within 30 minutes of taking it I feel like I experience debilitating side effects. Brainf fog, anxiety, ED, everything.
Is this even possible? I took half a pill and this shit is happening to me?
I can't believe I have such a strong perceived reaction to it.
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I was not always an skeptic about covid 19. At the beginning of the first quarrentine I was honestly scared, no so much for myself cause I was not in a risk group but I was expecting a lot of people to die. I was desinfecting all the products from the supermarket and using gel for the hands all the time.
As time goes by and nothing actually affected my own life (meaning not only me but all the people I know) yes I heard some cases of friends that allegedly got it at the beginning, they have been diagnosed via conference call (which I found sketchy to say the least) also notice that my friends that allegedly got it they always get the flu. Then I started learning about PCR "tests", death certificates, empty hospitals and all the nosense of this scam.
The only person I know that has been hospitalised is my aunt, however I wanted to point out that she is the most political person I know, all her Facebook posts are about politics (this is in Argentina, which is arguably the most political place in the world) and ofcourse her political party is pro covid restrictions so she would defend to death what they say, she took all the precautions, stayed at home, practice social distance with husband and sons, mask and you name it. She is a actually kind of amateur swimmer she won many competitions, she don't smoke and pretty super healthy for her age that must be something around 60.
I'm 39 I've been travelling since 19 been in +25 countries , I speak 4 languages know a lot of people around the world.
It caught my attention that the only person I directly know that actually got hospitalised it was a full on Covid believer/doomer, ofcourse during her stay at the hospital she kept doing selfies and Facebook posts explaining the gravity of this disease and the dangers of the deniers who don't take precautions.
Do you have a similar story?
How much does the power of the mind can influence your well-being and even make you sick if you fully/blindly believe in it?
Words you might not have heard of -
- nocebo: a harmless substance that when taken by a patient is associated with harmful effects due to negative expectations or the psychological condition of the patient.
- pudor: An appropriate sense of modesty or shame.
- monopsony: the market condition that exists when there is one buyer.
- majuscule: A large letter, either capital or uncial, used in writing or printing.
- calligram: A word, phrase, or piece of text arranged to form a picture of the subject described.
These words are taken from vocabulary app - Vocab Assistant
I can’t talk about this with anyone else because I feel so stupid for saying it and I know I’ll be judged and looked at as an idiot. Now, I know that most the claims of this vaccine (like causing infertility) is baseless. But, for some reason, my brain can’t shake that thought out of my head. And with the idea of the nocebo effect, I’m afraid that I may actually experience that aid effect if I keep thinking I will get it. I’ve heard reports online about people experiencing negative side effects from placebo pills when they thought they would get it. I’m completely terrified of this even though I logically know it can’t happen. But for some reason, my brain can’t shake that thought away and now I’m nervous to get this vaccine. I am afraid to tell this to my parents or other people in fear of being judged or looked down on as stupid for thinking this way. I need your help PLEASE
Mostly had a blocked nose, constantly dry mouth and lips, racing heart and random aches and pains from gluten. When I went GF for a few days, my nose instantly cleared up. TMI: also an itchy vagina & bum.
Edit: I also had wild gluten/carb/sugar cravings when I ate even a little bit of gluten, but that might be less gluten intolerance and more something everyone experiences.
Edit: thanks to all! I apologise if this sounds very obvious, just wanted to... make sure I wasn’t imagining things, I guess?
This is purely a question from me, and don’t shoot me for it😁
So, I’ve been microdosing for a couple of weeks, and I notice that I often get some anxiety the days I MD, and on the verge of having a panic attack. I have no other effects other than the anxiety (no visuals etc). I had the same level of anxiety when I took 50mg as well as 200mg(my current dosage).
Often I see that you should lower your dose if you feel jittery and anxious.
But is I possible that you would feel that in any dosage? My claim is that there is a lot of psychological turmoil going on when ingesting a illegal substance, in which is often the last thing to try for mental health, after trying everything else, with little to no success. The hope is high in other words.
Whenever I ingest something with some degree of potential “harm”, I get nervous. And the higher the dose, the bigger the chance for ending up having a panic attack. And, I often think my self into having anxiety and paranoia, because I might have fu••ed up. Even on low doses.
What are your thoughts? Are many of the post regarding anxiety, paranoia and jittery, just “nocebo”?
Any experiences and even if y’all did have sexual sides how long did it take for them to go away after discontinuing?
I’m afraid of getting the vaccine tomorrow. I know that the serious adverse reactions are rare. However, I developed an extremely rare reaction to my wisdom teeth surgery in which I had a canker sore infection. I’m afraid that if I got that rare of a reaction, what’s to say I don’t get a rare reaction to the vaccine? If my mind is telling me I may get a rare reaction, I’m afraid I’ll get it. I’ve been terrified of the what if’s. If I don’t get the vaccine then I’ll have to worry about the possibility of getting infected by HPV. I don’t know what to fucking do. I’m terrified.
I’m afraid I’ll get erectile dysfunction simply because my mind, for whatever reason, is telling me this. Although I know the vaccine doesn’t cause this, I’m afraid of the placebo effect. Please help
