I was really confused when watching the movie. She kills Coin, the president, and gets to just go home?
Which death was the hardest for you to get over?
Prim, Madge, Cinna, Finnick, Boggs, Darius, Jackson, Lavinia, Mitchell, Castor, Messalla, Homes, Leegs, Snow, Coin?
For me it was Finnick and Cinna, I liked them so much.
I think we can all agree that Mockingjay being split into two parts was very unnecessary and just resulted very poor pacing for both movies. I did enjoy both though but even I will admit that. How would you have felt if Mockingjay was just 1 movie around 2hr45 to 3hr movie kind of like The dark Knight rises. I think we would have ended up with a much better movie to be honest all the fat would have been trimmed and anticipation would go up every second.
District 13 bombed the District 8 hospital in the book Mockingjay, not the Capitol.
There is some pretty good evidence for this theory.
First of all, District 13 believes that everyone must have a function in society. The lives of District 13 citizens are highly monitored. They have a schedule they must follow at all times, unless there are extreme circumstances. Calorie intake is monitored. Everyone wears hand me down clothing. It is clear that District 13 values the strict rationing of resources. District 13 would have no real use for the hospital patients, especially since they are in no condition to work or fight for the rebellion. I believe that District 13 saw them as a waste of resources after the propaganda shoot. I remember how a character made a remark after the District 8 hospital bombing, how the Capitol had no use for broken slaves or something. District 13 would not, either.
Second, District 13 does something very similar later in the book. District 13 took a hovercraft painted with the Capitol seal and bombed hundreds of innocent children in the Capitol shortly before its capture. The point was to paint the Capitol as evil. It would make sense that District 13 would bomb the hospital, too, for the same propaganda purposes. It is also mentioned that the downed hovercraft that Katniss or Gale shot down had the Capitol seal, too. Yes, the Capitol would have the seal on its hovercraft. However, District 13 could also put it on their own hovercraft to fool everyone.
Finally, Katniss's commanders were also against Katniss doing anything to stop the bombing. Instead, they wanted her to go to a bunker and wait out the attack. While this could have been done because Katniss was too valuable as an asset to risk getting killed, it could also have been because they knew how good of a soldier she was and would easily shoot down the hovercraft. Remember, this is a girl who has been hunting all her life and survived two Hunger Games. I feel like if District 13 really did care about the safety of Katniss, they would not have sent her to District 8 in the first place. They would not have later sent Katniss to the Capitol, either. Rather, they would have done the propaganda back at 13, using special effects and green screen. Furthermore, Katniss's superiors were extremely angry at her for intervening. Haymitch even considered implanting a chip into Katniss's ear.
I think that Snow said that he was the one who bombed the hospital in the movie, but they ch
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I saw all of the hunger games movies in theaters when they came out years ago. Recently I noticed they are streaming on Hulu and decided to rewatch them with my family. It has been a long time since I’ve seen them, but the first 3 played out exactly how I remember them. When mockingjay pt 2 started I immediately felt like I didn’t remember the beginning of the movie having the dialogue that it did. At first I assumed maybe I had arrived to the theater late when I first saw it and was filling in my memories with something else, but the rest of the movie was different as well. There were only a couple scenes that were the same as I remember (the scene with the black goo, the lizard mutts in the sewer, the scenes with tigress, prim dying, katniss shooting coin, and katniss yelling at buttercup when she gets back home). The rest of the scenes either felt entirely new, or felt as if they contained new or altered dialogue. I even remember people online being upset that a lot of peeta and katniss’ dialogue from the books didn’t appear in the movie when it first came out - specifically a lot of the “real or not real” conversations, but this time when I streamed the movie, they have 3 of those conversations. Am I nuts? Hulu doesn’t mention that it’s the directors cut or anything. I googled it and I can’t find anything online. My parents agree with me that they don’t remember the same scenes as me. When I asked a friend about it who’s also super into the hunger games, she said she had the same experience. I would chalk it up to poor memory, except that it’s been corroborated by 3 people and it didn’t happen with the rest of the movies.
Has anyone had a similar experience? Is there a directors cut that exists? I can be more specific about the differences I noticed if anyone wants to hear about it (I just didn’t want to make this post longer than it already is).
Do you guys have any theories/ head canons about what happened after the epilouge in mockingjay. nothing specific and it can be any characters.
For me, Effie definitely visited often, doing Katniss's daughters hair and her and Haymitch had something going on. ( Just one of my ideas)
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The books nor movie never really specifies and I can’t find any information online.
I have never read the book series and just now binged all four movies (I know, I’m behind!) I really enjoyed the movies but the ending really left me feeling dissatisfied/unresolved. Maybe it’s because I expected a final battle and a longer fight scene at the capital but it felt like it was cut so short. I just felt like you see Katniss recovering, grieving for Prim for a few minutes, reconnects with Peeta, and then time jumps to their future. I guess I wanted to see more development after the war.
Is this how the book ends as well? Did you feel more resolved because there was more details? Or do you feel like it was cut short? I wish I would have read the books first but I’m excited to read them now that I have watched the movies.
My personal favourites are Eyes Open from the first one, (Abraham’s Daughter too it’s a crime to not at least mention it) We Remain from the second, and Dead Air from the third, what about you guys?
It isn't on Netflix and I don't want to accidently spoil my self looking for where I can watch it.
DL: One of the things that both Snow and Katniss realize is the power of media and imagery on the population. Snow may appear heartless to some, but he is very attuned to the “hearts and minds” of his citizens . . . and he is also attuned to the danger of losing them to Katniss. What role do you see propaganda playing in the war they’re waging?
SC: Propaganda decides the outcome of the war. This is why Plutarch implements the airtime assault; he understands that whoever controls the airwaves controls the power. Like Snow, he’s been waiting for Katniss, because he needs a Spartacus to lead his campaign. There have been possible candidates, like Finnick, but no one else has captured the imagination of the country like she has.
So I see two possibilities here. 1) Something happened during his Games that was rebellious enough that Plutarch believed he could've been a candidate to lead the rebel campaign, or 2) Because of his looks and standing within the Capitol, Plutarch might have wanted to use him that way, hence why he started to collect secrets
Also, Suzanne said: I have a world of information about the characters that didn’t make it into the book. With some stories, revealing that could be illuminating, but in the case of The Hunger Games, I think it would only be a distraction unless it was part of a new tale within the world of Panem.
Here's a link to the whole interview:
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The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 (2015)
Date started: 5/2/2021
Date watched: December 28, 2021
Directed by Francis Lawrence
DP by Jo Willems
Based on a novel / series by Suzanne Collins
To tell the truth there is only one reason to watch this film, and that is because you have already watched the first, second, and third films in the franchise and want to see the dramatic finale. The same could be said of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011) as well, but nota bene that Harry Potter had produced seven box office hits by that point, and seven is more than three, as Shel Silverstein would say.
Suzanne's cardboard Nation of Panem has collapsed like a house of... cards. The District 13 rebels only need to capture District 2 before taking on The Capital, which takes about 30 minutes of screen time, heavily interwoven with the "who gives a crap?" story of Peeta being brainwashed to hate Katniss, which AS YOU MIGHT RECALL was a conflict introduced in the final scene of the previous film.
ANYWAY, things go pretty well, aside from Katniss getting shot, blah blah blah, it wasn't important anyway. Gather the team and invoke the Dwindling Party Trope for a final assault on The Capital. Traps! More traps! Underground traps! Subway traps!
Any plot resolution would be fine at this point. I am done with this. I am so completely done with this.
Rating: 4+ / 10
I know that it was, but why? To me, there is nothing inherently rebellious about that type of bird. I know Katniss had a pin with the bird, and she and Rue used them to have some success in the 74 games. But why does the mockingjay take such precedent in the story as THE symbol of rebellion?
I've been reading all the books to my son for bedtime, and Mockingjay is so different from the first 3.
It seems like an entirely different writer is responsible. It's just not a fun read.
He's completely bored of the book, but I'd hate to move on to another book without finishing this first.
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014)
Date started: 5/2/2021
Date watched: December 22, 2021
Directed by Francis Lawrence
Based on a novel / series by Suzanne Collins
I had hoped it was just a directorial choice that the first film of the series used such a dreary palette. The second, third, and final films were all directed by Lawrence (no relation to J-Law) but here we return to the land of the dreary, and some of the aircraft scenes are almost solid black. Maybe a different DP? No, Jo Willems is credited for these installments as well. Also happens in the final film, so not an accident.
So anyway, Katniss gets rescued and they take her to District 13 which, as you would know if you read the books, was supposed to have been destroyed long ago because they were revolting. [I have to say, only a maniac like Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang would name his cities with numbers. - NM] This rogue district is ruled by the iron fist of Alma Coin (Julianne Moore), which is a little concerning. Sure, living in an underground bunker requires discipline, but -- like the rest of the world building in this series -- it all seems so implausible. As for the character of Coin, it would only take one small extraneous detail, some tiny personal idiosyncrasy for Coin's character, to pull me into the story. President Snow has his white roses, President Coin has... ?
The audience knows this is part 1 of the final book of a trilogy, which prepares the story to indulge in a slower than usual pace. There are still some strange edits, presumably to avoid drag. But what is really lacking here, in contrast to the first two films, is an over-the-top Plot Arena to drive the story. There are no "Games" here, just naked and barbaric war. This makes no sense at all. It makes no sense that after 75 years of mostly peaceful social control, run by a bloated but incredibly competent aristocracy... yet Snow couldn't resolve the whole District 13 problem in a more symbolic and abstract way... with, say, a series of Games? Maybe a little chess? Hangman?
Is violence really the only way to resolve this situation?
Rating: 5 / 10 - for wasting all that potential
I can't believe how many people actually believe Katniss truly said yes to a Capitol children Hunger Games. I've seen so many posts using that as a point to denigrate Katniss when it's just so falseeee 😂 . But besides that small part, it's just like, cmon guys, not everything has to be spelled out for you!
The movie was released on November 20, 2015 and grossed $658 million worldwide, which made it at the time the 89th highest-grossing movie in the world (it would've been the 88th if Star Wars 1 had never been re-released). It's now the 140th highest-grossing movie in the world (it would be the 139th if Star Wars 1 had never been re-released)
I swear. The series is so beautiful. It made me cry so much, especially in the end when Katniss sinks into depression and I feel like she lost a part of herself, of that clear-headed girl who won the Hunger Games twice. I think that’s what made the tears spill out most, because I think she may have lost her fire and determination. The epilogue is kind of vague and it didn’t help the inflow of tears. I am now turning to fan fictions to cope. I swear this series is so beautiful and it ended so sadly. Now I’m off crying again. Have a nice day and thanks for reading this, kind stranger.
The hanging tree is a straight banger and I can't stop listening to it. There's something about the masses starting to sing the song and rushing towards the dam and the vocals getting louder that really butters my biscuits
I just rewatched the Hunger Games movies with my boyfriend. We’d both read the books and watched the movies when they came out. But he hadn’t watched the movies again since 2015, while I had. So we got up to the scene where Katniss kills Coin. And he told me he remembered that in the books, Katniss kills Coin with a candlestick inside of Snow’s mansion in a fight. Clearly, the way Coin was killed was the same in the movie as it was in the book. But the scene of Katniss killing someone with a candlestick is too familiar, though I can’t find anything online. I don’t know if something like this did happen of if we’re just mixing in stuff from another book.
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Having reread all of the books recently, I came across a series of events that could link together BSS and Mockingjay and explain why no rebels where caught post the arena bombs at the Capitol Arena during the 10th hunger games.
As is explained in Mockingjay the capitol developed a defence system called pods, design to either trap or kill anyone unlucky to come too close to these. It's also explained that some were there form the dark days (first rebellion).
During the dark days, the Capitol Arena was used for executing high level rebel prisoners as explained in BSS, which leads me to think that there might have been pods around the Arena to make sure that any rescue attempt would have been stopped. Therefore some might have stayed hidden in the arena and never have been activated/destroyed during the rebellion. And post the rebellion the arena was abandoned except for the use of the hunger games.
My theory is that the bombs that went of during the event at the arena before the 10th game where a series of pods that went of due to someone stepping somewhere they shouldn't have. I also back this up with the series of flaming beams that fell down on the field. They would have killed/hindered any rebels slated for execution and their rescuers. And as we also note that the bleachers were almost unharmed in the explosion, that would have meant that any capitol citizens in attendance would have been unharmed.
The movie was released on November 21, 2014 and grossed $755 million worldwide, which made it at the time the 57th highest-grossing movie in the world (it would've been the 55th if E.T. and Star Wars 1 had never been re-released). It's now the 107th highest-grossing movie in the world (it would be the 104th if E.T., Deadpool 2 and Star Wars 1 had never been re-released)
