Headship Puns

You know that ridiculous questionnaire that he makes future Duggar In-laws fill out before being given permission to date one of his J's? Kind of like a home loan application, but instead of getting a house you get to sweaty hold hands, awkward side hugs and a pillow with your face on it?

What went down with Jeremy's answers, does anyone know? I read that there were theological differences and that why RimBlob was all like access denied

Theological differences? What does that even mean?!

Hubby is okay and home but I raced from work yesterday (evil public school) to meet his ambulance. Thanks to covid I spent three hours in the car planning for the worst.

Me:55, public school special education teacher, mom to twin females age 21 still at home. I’m about the same age as Meech.

Planning for the worst I knew I could keep household afloat on my salary. Twins will be self supporting fairly soon. One is transferring to university next semester to prep to teach math. The other has disabilities but is prepping to enter vocational training program with end goal of being fully self supporting. I thought of network of friends I could call for emotional and practical help, all beyond family, all from varied circles. Health and life insurance through my work. I know I would want to not remarry if widowed because I’m dreaming of teaching at international schools after retirement.

How would this compare to a dependent woman in their circles? They would immediately lose all income. How could they balance the needs of so many children? How could they avoid the pressure to not remarry if they finally felt some level of freedom? What vocational skills would they have that would allow them to support a family plus what about childcare?

Parking lot ruminating hit it home to me how bad it must be for help meets. I wasn’t rooting for hubby to die but it was such a comfort to know we would be heartbroken but afloat with a future.

(So excluding Lovequare, Marcaniel, Julerose, etc)

Whats your head cannon ships and why do you ship em?

Personally i ship Felix x Lila, because Adrienette is match made in heaven, those two are match made in hell.

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I mean, I can’t be the only one thinking this

Normally wouldn’t make a post about this, but might as well today. Something that really bothers me is when i see people say that jill is just acting under her headship when referring to the changes she’s made. I see comments here and there that are like “she hasn’t really made changes, she just had her headship transferred and is following Derick”. I feel like this really takes away from the positive steps she has made. I’m not saying this to leg-hump on Jill. We all know she has a long way to go and still has some toxic beliefs, but just the idea of taking away from a woman’s growth like this sits badly with me. Derick probably did have a big role in her thought process beginning to open, but i don’t think that diminishes her role. Maybe i am taking these comments wrong? IDK let me know.

Federal Reserve economists seemed to have expected headship rates to improve as the labor market recovered, but that seems not to have happened. The best explanation I can find online is that household growth remained low due to the rise in housing cost. However, this seems contradictory to me because the current housing price increases are often explained as being caused by an increase in demand--effectively saying demand is low because demand is high. What are some explanations other than price that explain why headship rates didn't recover with the labor market and income growth?

I have a Headship question for those of you who've lived in this type of culture:

How do the standards set by my father work with the standards set by my new husband? For example, let's say Abbie Duggar grew up in a household that allowed xtian rock music and John David didn't. Or say I grew up in a house where women were allowed to wear pants but my new husband didn't.

When they get married, what happens? Does she ask his permission to listen to it? Do I ask permission to wear pants? Does she just turn it xtian rock on one day assuming it's okay and sometimes he tells her she can or cannot do that any more? Or my new husband says, "No more pants, dear?"

There's been several threads regarding Anna's living situation post-pest-prisonment and I was searching if IBLP said something regarding imprisonment. Surprisingly, considering how rampant SA is in their cult, there's no mention. However, I did find this. Not quite the same as imprisonment, but similar enough to have a few likely scenarios. I see two ways of this playing out.

1. Pest is still her headship: I see this as being more likely, as there is no divorce or separation. He also loves control. Whatever he says gos, even if that's behind bars. If he tells her to move to be close, she'll move. If he tells her to take his father's headship, she will. I feel that, as long as there is a way for him to communicate with her, she'll still be under his thumb, even if he can't "enforce" anything. She's been groomed and brainwashed.

2. She follows the widow's route: She takes God as her headship. God will "lead her to the correct path." She seeks counsel first from Pest's parents due to proximity. Joob Boob swoops in promising to guide her "the way a woman needs." She sees this as a sign from God, accepts Joobaloob as her new headship, and either continues to live in the wharehome or into the TTN so Goob can finally marry off the kid's mom Jana.

Just speculation. Any other takes?

I spend too much time around here.

(Yes I know that's not how you spell heads up, but I chose a spelling and stuck to it)

We talk about the (un)attractiveness of the Duggar girls headships, but I mean, the bar wasn't even hung. It's just resting on the ground.

Please remember that Jim Bob's picture was in their room growing up. I mean, the husbands had to compete with this (complete with the creepy arm gesture used on Jana).

So maybe Jeremy's hair is running away faster than Marjorie did, but at least they aren't marrying physical clones of their father, like Justin and his sister-mom wife.

This is meant to be read as snark and not leg humpy. I'm not trying to be an apologist for this shit show.

I keep seeing this term used in this subreddit and r/duggarsnark. What exactly does it mean?

I know JB et al talked a big game about finding headships for the Duggar daughters who could financially support them while they popped our babies, but were any of them able to do that? And by that reckoning, were any of the Duggar boys able to support their spouses? All JB was interested in was maintaining control over his kids, to their extreme detriment.

The only two I can think of who might be in an independent financial place are Derrick (he was an accountant with Walmart before and I think can support his family?) and Austin (he flips houses and also helps run the fundie family camp). The rest of them are 100% in Boob’s pocket, almost certainly intentionally.

Related: are there any in-laws who you don’t think applied in part so that they could be reality TV stars? The only one I would semi-believe in is Austin, and even THEN his parents were trying to get on TLC being the “strictest parents in America” or whatever. Totally thirsty for fame. Also not trying to leg-hump Austin and Joy or Jill and Derrick, just trying to give opinions as I see them. I hope Jill’s therapist is trauma-informed and that all those girls get to go to therapy.

I was wondering if anybody had ever asked: how does the headship arrangement jive with the fact that women are also part of the 144,000? If women have been chosen to join Jesus as Queens, why would the Org not allow women to hold higher positions on earth?

Is there any articles from the org that touch on how headship works within a step family situation?

I have a non-witness friend of my wife’s that refuses to listen to us about pursuing a relationship with a DFed POMI man, and I don’t think she quite grasps how headship works within the org...but I also can’t recall ever reading anything on headship with a step-family setting. Any help with references would be much appreciated!

I've been thinking about this since I read the charges that have been brought against him... I do think he'll end up having to serve time, so who will be Anna's headship while he's gone? Will it revert back to her father? Or will Pest appoint JB? I think if Anna does leave Josh, it's going to take several years to build the courage and break the indoctrination. In the meantime, she'll have to have some man "protect" her. Thoughts?

I had a conversation with a JW a while ago, the discussion went to the headship and headcoverings idea, now I know what the wt days on this, so I asked him to extrapolate the idea a few times.

Supposed there is a married couple, female jw, non jw male, who is the head?

What if there is a mother and son living in the same house, he's a jw, she isn't, who is the head, as you are supposed to honor your parents? same if it's a JW daughter and a non JW father.

What if a " fleshly" brother and sister live in the same property,if she's a JW and he is not, who's the head, what if neither is baptised, but studying.

He couldn't answer this, he's getting back to me, but I don't think he will. I'd like to know what the wt stance is on this.

That's the last line of this week's study.

First line?

WHAT does the word “headship” mean to you?

My question:

What fuckin century is it?

"Headship" as a concept is given a lot of lip service, but few people actually practice it the way Christ does with the Church. I can't count the number of people who tell me how "red pill" their church congregation is, or how "biblically grounded" the teachings are on marriage and relationships, while being exactly the opposite.

KNOWING THE STRUCTURES

I believe a large reason for this stems from inappropriately understanding the views on marriage expressed by different congregational structures. Here they are:

1. Headship: The view that the man is the head of his household. What he says goes.

2. Complementarianism: The view that God has given men and women different roles to fill. Among the man's roles are the right to have the final say on disputed matters in the home.

3. Egalitarianism: The view that husband and wives are on equal footing with regard to all roles, including decision-making authority.

4. Feminism: The view that women should be empowered in the home to do as they please and that men should support them in the direction the woman chooses to go, unless it would otherwise amount to direct sin.

Very few congregations actually claim the title of "feminist" when it comes to discussing marriage roles, as they realize this cultural ideology is in direct opposition to Scripture, so most of them will take the feminist agenda and mask it in the form of egalitarianism or complementarianism. Egalitarian-feminists will push the notion that a wife's equality with her husband prohibits him from exercising authority over her, empowering her to have an equal say, which is virtually always interpreted that her "equal" say should win because if he wins then he's just a patriarchal monster. Complementarian-feminists will pay lip-service to male authority in the home, but instead redirect that authority in ways that serve the wife. If there's a dispute, the husband would be "ungodly" if he were to exercise his authority in a way that displeases his wife or fails to give her what she wants. As such, the man's authority in the home is merely that of a puppet figurehead, while the wife truly runs the show. Feminist structures incorrectly reflect to the world that the bride (Church) has authority over her husband (Christ) either by direct authority or obligational exercise of authority.

True egalitarianism (of the non-feminist variety) is still unbiblical and dangerous. Jesus directly preaches that no kingdom can have

hello!! i’ve recently been nominated in my org for a committee vp position. for context, i’ve been nominated for the academics and research committee. but since i come from a provincial org, it’s difficult to come up with projects/initiatives that will cater the needs of my constituents (unlike kung same insti kayo, you can hold reviews and yung flow of resource materials mas madali). i just wanna ask kung ano yung ginagawa ng current orgs niyo in the online setup to help the members academically? huhu thank u!!

Hello, gentle snarkers! I hope you have survived this Christmas and the family strain that often comes with holidays, but if you need to feel better about yourself, as I do, enter the Duggars! We plunged into new depths of Jim Bob and Michelle's neglect of their children last time, discovering that they probably had the money to hire contractors to finish TTH, but chose not to. Instead, they're looking like a shocked Pikachu when, four years after the sale, the church they sold to wants them to vacate, and they're moving into a rental house until the TTH can be finished. To give you a sense of the timeline, Michelle is 2 months pregnant with Johannah, the first of the Lost Girls, so we're in late winter/early spring of 2005 here.

Jim Bob playing master of the house and addressing all the people helping them move, while Michelle gazes adoringly until she has to whisper-interrupt him because he's an idiot.

(Image description: Jim Bob and Michelle cuddled up to each other while Jim Bob talks, leaning onto a dolly, with a truly 90s wall of pictures and diplomas in the background. Jessa in the foreground, looking like she has just met her sleep paralysis demon)

The Duggars have found a new (to them) house after a long and excruciating search of about one month. How did they find it? Well... "The house is going to be torn down anyway, so why not let the Duggars' home-grown wrecking crew start the demolition?" But first, they have to move. "Moving 17 people and all their things is not like packing a kid off to college." BWAHAHA. As if a Duggar kid would ever go to college! "This is one serious operation where the smallest bottleneck could have big-time consequences. Hence, one of the first rules in Duggar-land is plan, plan, plan. From grocery shopping to arranging the pantry, laundry to school lessons, organization is the key to success. So rest assured, this move has a manager. We'll give you a hint who it is. She's two months pregnant."

Please excuse me for a moment while I roll on the floor, laughing like a madwoman. We're talking about the Duggar family here, famous for not being in time for anything, even their flights. A family who didn't think of checking if their RV worked before they went on an interstate trip (I'm ge

I feel like most of the women who call themselves Christians highly disagree on the biblical roles on a marriage. It's like they want the husband to be the provider, protector and a chivarly but don't want their counterpart and still be independent empowered. Also they seek 'legal insurance' in case 'things go wrong', basically denying the spiritual insolvency aspect of marriage.

I'm struggling with this as they seem, in different doses, intoxicated with feminism. This makes marriage not viable for men. How do you guys deal with this?