[WON] Those close to WALTER note he is politically very left leaning and comes from a working class family in Austria and don’t believe he would have given the name Gunther Stark the go ahead if he knew it's origin. Belief is WWE came up with name and failed to research it

>Those close to him note he is politically very left leaning and comes from a working class family in Austria and they don’t believe had he personally known he’d have been okay with being named after a Nazi. In the past he never wanted to bring negative publicity to pro wrestling in Germany and this would have done so. Stark means “strong” in German. Gunther Stark, the Nazi U-boat commander is not that well known of a name in Germany or Austria. The belief is more that WWE came up with the name and failed to research it before trying to trademark it, or if they did find out, thinking the name was so little known that nobody would care.

Link to this week's newsletter: https://members.f4wonline.com/wrestling-observer-newsletter/january-24-2022-observer-newsletter-wwe-aew-q4-numbers-wwe-takes-shot

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PWInsider: WWE abandons "Gunther Stark" trademark.

WWE ABANDONS GUNTHER STARK TRADEMARK

By Mike Johnson & Steven Fernandes on 2022-01-20 08:46:00

WWE has already abandoned their trademark filing on the name Gunther Stark.

WWE filed that they had abandoned the registration of the trademark yesterday, 1/19.

As noted yesterday on PWInsider.com, the trademark registration blew up in WWE's face on both social media and with a number of mainstream outlets in the United States and internationally.  The Gunther Stark name, devised as the new ring name for the former WALTER, was identical to a Nazi U-Boat Commander in World War II.

WWE moved forward with WALTER's new ring name this past Tuesday, instead using "Gunther" without the last name.

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Louis Dangoor on Twitter: WWE recently filed to trademark 'Gunther Stark' presumably for a new NXT talent. A quick Google search shows that 'Gunther Stark' was a military commander for the Nazis... twitter.com/TheLouisDango…
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Finn Balor replies to GUNTHER: “Everyone hated FINN too!” twitter.com/finnbalor/sta…
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I dump all of Gunther's rewards on the beach because they're ugly and I don't want them on my property 😅 reddit.com/gallery/s2vq9n
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Gunther (FKA WALTER) ends Chris Brookes with a 619 and top rope splash after being called a “Dominic Mysterio looking piece of shit” streamable.com/k7c2aa
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When you FINALLY donate your first Dinosaur Egg to Gunther...
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So how does everyone feel about Walter becoming Gunther?
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The Museum Curator and 2/3 of the Children! Gunther, Vincent, and Jas have been eliminated! Comment the next 3 to be eliminated!
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How do you think Gunther told Rachel about Ross's cheating?
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[NXT Spoilers] Gunther promises a new era youtu.be/G5cWbjYy6f8
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The outrage over GUNTHER being a Nazi name is one of the stupidest things of all time. Know why? Because Walter's birth name is that of a Nazi soldier too. German names are bound to coincide with the names of Nazi soldiers.

And it is infuriating. Ryan Satin tweeted that he lost a friend because he took WWE's side on this matter. How stupid is that? Hell, probably some of our names coincide with soldiers who took part in horrible things.

The entire thing is just to spite WWE. You can't tell me that the outrage would be similar if NJPW, AEW or the indies did this. It'd be justified instantly as an easy mistake. I'm not sure if there'd be any outrage at all if another company did this.

The sheer stupidity of this controversy is hilarious and annoying at the same time.

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TIL James Michael Tyler, who played Gunther the barista on “Friends” was originally meant to only appear as an extra; he remained on the show as he was the only actor there who knew how to operate an espresso machine. insider.com/gunther-on-fr…
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It’s funny that people are suddenly crying about Gunther being a Nazi name when Walter’s actual name is the same as a Nazi as well

Just Google “Walter Hahn WW2” and the very first link leads to a Nazi soldier. I just love how no one blinked at this, and yet are suddenly history experts when a more German-sounding name is brought.

And because of this, I’m starting to lean to the idea that this name change was Walter’s idea.

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Yes this name change means that WALTER (Gunther (slave name)) will never succeed in the fed, he should leave and come to the dub!! (This video passed me off so much lmao)
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Gunther Announcement Reaction v.redd.it/chtap9yyapc81
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GUNTHER (WALTER) shares a photo of IMPERIUM looking more jacked than ever twitter.com/Gunther_AUT/s…
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Gunther Stark BAD - WALTER Hahn - GOOD
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400+ hours on Stardew Valley and this is the first time I saw Gunther outside of the Museum
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Vince won’t wait to screw with people on the main roster… he’ll start early with them in NXT. Take Walter for example: he’s now called Gunther, a dead Nazi U-boat commander from World War 2.
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Finn Balor stands with GUNTHER. twitter.com/FinnBalor/sta…
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Not sure if you guys have been following the news, but Germany just announced they are sending 5000 Helmut's to Ukraine in case things escalate with the Russians. They're no Gunther's, but they certainly hold their own.
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📅︎ Jan 27 2022
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Giga Gunther
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"Walter" is now "Gunther"

Yes, WWE now own the name "Gunther Stark" and yes, that name has an unfortunate history that someone should have googled, not least their IP department.

However - WWE have always renamed talent so they can own the copyright. This protects both the performer and the company, giving them an identity they can leave behind if the gimmick fails, and means WWE can own and produce every version of merchandise they might want to, without needing to check someone else's IP - not many independent wrestlers do copyright checks before establishing their gimmick.

I'd like to give WWE the benefit of the doubt here that Walter was consulted and even chose the new name, as has been the case with other performers. On top of that, that they saw the online buzz in the last few days, and went straight to dropping the last name (which would happen in the fullness of time in WWE anyway). But let's see where we are next week.

I'm not sure "Gunther" is good - the last TV Gunther was a bitchy coffee shop owner - but it's Walter. He will continue to do Walter matches, and if you had told me before seeing him that this guy's name was Gunther, but changed it to "Walter" for WWE I'd have laughed you out of the building for giving him a nerd name. We are where we are - if he's as good as people think, he will build the credibility of the name.

Or WWE will have a vaguely-Nazi hate group in NXT because Vince secretly loves Hitler, apparently.

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WWE Abandons ‘Gunther Stark’ Trademark prowrestlingfeed.com/wwe-…
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Gunther in Episodes v.redd.it/ijnw0qedpte81
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DAE WWE is fu king stupid for changing Gunther Stark's name to WALTER??

That's it, just a first name, and a fucking stupid one at that. Also, are they not aware that Walter was the name of MANY nazis back in the day?!

Shame on WWE. Gunther's career is done now because they changed his name. Now he'll never get over. I'm a huge fan btw.

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James Michael Tyler, Gunther from 'Friends,' Dead at 59 from Cancer tmz.com/2021/10/24/friend…
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They really changed WALTER’s name to GUNTHER?! I thought it was a joke.
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they just changed WALTER'S name to GUNTHER STARK (a named shared by a Nazi naval officer) v.redd.it/hxyzv7btbkc81
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HOW COULD YOU NAME SOMEONE GUNTHER!! DONT YOU KNOW GOOGLE IS FREE
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GUNTHER on Twitter twitter.com/gunther_aut/s…
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Credits - PT80 Wrestling . Unpopular opinion - I actually like the name , I mean Walter was good but Gunther tbh is not that bad. v.redd.it/ya9bi2qo7zd81
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Bella Bachelor and Gunther Goth dating, I have not seen Mortimer and Bella getting together on their own in the game unless I was making them getting together, but I was so not expecting this. Have you ever experienced this scenario? Is this common?
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DAE WWE Posting a Heidenreich Match on YouTube After the Gunther Drama is Insensitive?
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GUNTHER

What do the brahs and bras think of this bollocks going on with the sports entertainer formerly known as WALTER?

From what I gather they were originally going to change his name to Gunther Stark, even taking out a trademark on the name, but then discovered that if you search for Gunther Stark on Google it brings up things about a German U-boat captain so decided that just calling him Gunther would suffice.

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Gunther, at your service!
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"WWE trademarking Gunther Stark is the same as if they were to trademark Adolf Hitler" - Bryan Alvarez

Before you ask... yes... Bryan "Tier 1" Alvarez actually said that.

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BASEMENT NEWS: McHitler ruined WALTER's Career after changing his name, All the Neckbeards are still rallying over "Gunther"
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You think the name change really hurts "Gunther" at all? Sure, it was totally pointless. But as long as he's destroying people week after week, I'm good.
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I wanted to make a lilias gunther kitty clarissa and camilla team. Should i be changing any of gunther stats?
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Gunther Munch - to kill or not to kill?
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Just googled Gunther and this showed up.
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What if Gunther was the true AxeGod all along?
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And starting this moment... from now... from this moment on... this will be the moment... starting now... of the Genesis... of Gunther McGillicutty.
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EVERY NXT Fans Reaction To WALTER's Name Change To GUNTHER v.redd.it/3j7zp1q48tc81
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What is Walter/Gunther looking at? (Wrong answers Only)
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Man who called himself Bear Cat thinks Gunther is a dumb name. DAE Fed bad? twitter.com/RealKeithLee/…
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Without searching in Google, can you guess number of episodes Gunther appeared throughout 10 seasons?
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About the Gunther situation... reddit.com/gallery/sajz4b
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