Forehand Puns

Hey r/Discgolf!

I’m Mattfofatt and when I am not disc golfing I am a full-time orthopedic physical therapist who has been practicing PT for the past 8 years. One thing that I have noticed over that time is that one thing PT and disc golf have in common are injuries! I’ve seen many posts regarding various aches and pains that many of us deal with, with a wide variety of information written in the replies, some excellent, some less so. I decided I wanted to create a short series outlining some of the most common injuries in our sport, what they are, how they happen and generally what to expect if you are dealing with that type of an injury. My disclaimer is your typical one, which is this information is not intended to diagnose or treat any conditions, but to provide some information and point you in the right direction for those diagnosis and treatment.

Before we get started let's go over some generalities. The body’s joints work in alternate fashion with joints that allow for more movement but less stability being followed in succession by a joint that has more stability but less available motion. For example, the shoulder joint itself is VERY mobile. We can swing that joint in all sorts of directions. The next joint down is the elbow joint, which is a hinge joint and generally moves into only flexion and extension. This joint is generally stable but doesn’t have the wide variety of movement that the shoulder does. This is one of the built-in systems that our body has to allow us to function in all of the ways that we can. Two stable joints in succession leads to lack of movement, two mobile joints in succession leads to too much instability.

Generally they alternate pretty well.

With that brief biomechanics lesson out of the way, lets dive into one of the most common areas of pain for new players, seasoned vets, and A LOT of people who are tired of throwing turnover backhands and want to get in on the forehand game, the elbow.

The human body is an amazing organism in that the way that it builds up stronger is by breaking down slightly and healing. This break down that is caused is all based on the demands placed on the body. If we do not break down enough, we don’t get stronger, if we break down too much we injure ourselves, so there is a happy medium of breakdown and build up which gets us to the top of our gam

Seems likely that one makes more sense than the other….especially if trying to maximize distance.

Edit: mainly considering the loaded foot is opposite in each sport more than angle release etc.

I cant for the life of me figure out the forehand. Everytime I throw it it will either flip up sideways or I just pull it completely. Would anyone know why this would be happening?

How would you rank the forehands of these young players?

Zverev, Rublev, Sinner, Tsitsipas, Shapovalov, Alcatraz, Casper

May have missed a couple good ones

Is there something I need to be doing different to throw my putters and mids forehand? I have no issue throwing my fairway drivers forehand but I am constantly overturning my mids and putters when I try to throw them forehand. On the other hand, I have seen other players absolutely rip putters and mids with a forehand without overturning them. Is there a different grip or what am I missing?

Are there any true Forehand disc throwers that are professional ( besides Nate Sexton ) that I should follow? I throw mainly forehand and would like to follow more disc golfers who throw forehand. Anyone y’all know?

Early in my days of learning backhand, people consistently said the comet is the best disc for learning because it will show you if you have any problems in your form. Is there an equivalent disc for forehands? I was thinking of trying to learn better technique with a buzz, but I’m not sure if it’s overstable enough. What disc do y’all recommend?

I went out for my 4th round today and shot a +11 today on a 18H course. It was mostly because I was grooving with my Emac Truth, it's easily become my most consistent thrower. I'm throwing like 230 ft, which is further than most of my disc except maybe my cyclone when I actually get a good throw on it.

I stuck to my 4 mids (Emac Truth, older Truth, Champ Roc3, and Star Mako3) and putters today and crushed my last score of +21.

The Emac Truth and Mako3 we're the stars of the show though. Emac was just a beast off the tee and the Mako3 just does exactly what you say to do (which sometimes can be bad.)

I just started playing about a year ago but I noticed when I switch from backhand to forehand or vice versa rotate the racket about an 1/8-1/4 of a turn and change my grip very slightly. Is that normal?

Thanks

few of my favorites are, ash, iga, jenny

I know that today's players can hit their FH & BH speeds of 80 - 90 MPH consistently. Most believe that this is the reason serve & volley play is gone.

I wonder how fast FH & BH were hit in the age of McEnroe/Borg/Connors/Lendl? How fast when Sampras/Agassi were playing?

How does that compare to today's 4.0 Rec players?

Thanks -

I've tried searching for this exact problem, but couldn't find it. I apologize if there already exists a thread about it.

The thing is, no matter what kind of grip I try with my forehand, the rim of the disc seems to drag along the skin on my index finger. Especially the creases on the side of my knuckle. It only gets worse if I try to do as many YouTube-guides suggest, getting the disc "deep" into my hand.

I get considerable flutter on the disc on forehands, and I suspect this might be causing some of it.

Anyone experience anything similar?

Any suggestions?

I played forehand only because I hurt my finger and my forehand went from 310-360 after a few months. And I didn't really lose any backhand distance.

New Eleven owner/player here! Played for 2 hours using the Quest 2 controllers (without adapters - they are on order) and it was very very fun - but I felt like there was something weird about the forehand (shakehand grip) because 100% of my hard swings with my forehands missed the ball. If I (lightly) tap the ball with my forehand, it was fine - and the backhand was 95% accurate, even if hitting hard. Is that just me?

With that said - I haven't been able to figure out how to practice ONLY forehands or ONLY backhands. The ball machine seems to always shoot at random directions. Is there a setting to be able to force them to come to my forehand or backhand only?

Often when I try and throw a big BH anhyzer, or even when throwing an undertstable forehand for some weird shots, my disc will come down hard and then cut and roll in the opposite of intended direction.

Let's say I'm throwing around a big tree and forehand with an understable driver. Sometimes it will go where I want in the air but then it will hit the ground, cut and roll the exact opposite way.

What am I doing wrong?

So I throw backhand and forehand pretty well but I can get more accuracy out of a forehand probably due to my baseball background. What I’m wondering is what are some of the better more torque resistant discs that you can sling with a sidearm. The obvious ones aside from Firebird/thunderbird which I throw well already. I’m looking for something more straight flying on a bit of a flip up like my MVP Relay but a faster disc preferably 7 speed or up. Basically I’m just not sure of how to tell a disc is torque resistant enough without buying and throwing it on my own. Any advice would be greatly helpful thank you in advance

As someone with a decent forehand I would like to hear what made forehand throwing click and just work for you guys!

It goes without saying that obviously our restaurant gets quite busy and I have up to five or six tables at a time on a busy night. This leads to me running around quite a bit and getting a little bit stressed out as well. I know what I’m doing but even so, I find that mostly I sweat from my forehead and neck especially when I am taking orders, talking to my tables or rushing to put an order in on the computer system. It’s always “pressure” moments when I start to sweat more, because when my food is all put in, and I’m just waiting, it stops temporarily. It’s mostly stress sweat, and anxiety, but it also doesn’t help that the kitchen area where we pick up and run food is extremely hot (obviously) and they keep The dining room/restaurant quite toasty.

It is so embarrassing to feel beads of sweat dripping down my forehead when I’m talking to my tables. I don’t know if they totally notice it, but I do, and it makes me overthink it, stress out and sweat even more. I don’t get sweaty anywhere else on my body just my forehead hairline and hair and my neck, so it’s very visible. It’s awful. AND WEARING A FUCKING MASK MAKES IT 10x WORSE AND MORE UNCOMFORTABLE THAN IT EVER WAS BEFORE COVID. I’m a bigger guy these days, and trying to lose some weight, but even when I was thin and fit I was always a forehead sweater under pressure, even as a young kid weighing just 90 lbs. I just can’t combat it no matter what I do. It’s affecting my self esteem, my job performance and I also feel like my coworkers judge me a bit too, as some have pointed out that I should pat down my forehead with a paper towel. It’s fucking mortifying. I think I have Hyperhidrosis.

Does anyone else have this problem as a server? What do you do to keep yourself calm and cool during your shift? What do you do to keep the sweat at bay? I need to change this.

I don’t understand what would make a disc better for forehand vs backhand. I’m pretty comfortable on both sides I do however tend to use more overstable discs on the forehand side because I have a tendency to flip the disc when I’m not trying too.

For added context I’m a tennis player and my dominant shot was my forehand.

Throwing a River, an Essence, and a Drift, all around 150'. Been playing since summer of 2020. No idea how to increase my distance, although within 100' or so, I am pretty happy with the accuracy of my forehand upshot with a Compass or a Berg. Suggestions? Thanks! https://imgur.com/a/mSZhNnT

So I’ve been playing a little over a year now. I play at the 3.5 level but prefer to play up and mostly rally with players better than me. I started off with a terrible coach that taught me pretty bad technique and taught me to serve with a forehand grip, which apparently is what kids do lol. My current coach has been trying to change my serve grip to continental, she says that’s the only way I’ll be able to use more power and do other serves such as slice etc. But it is actually painful to hold the continental grip and try to serve. So much so that my hand subconsciously changes over to the forehand grip while I’m going through the serve motion, by the time I’m in trophy pose, it’s in a full forehand grip. I’ve tried a few gadgets, something called a GripMD (looks like a racquet flashlight) and it adds so much girth to the grip that it hurts my hand. I have very small hands lol. We’ve even taped my hand to the racquet so it can’t change grips, but then the serve motion is super awkward and painful even then. Like I can’t do the pronation or something. My coach doesn’t understand why I can’t hold the grip and why it’s painful when I actually do have the correct grip. I don’t either. I try so hard to keep the continental, so much so that my hand was cramping in my session the other day. It feels as if she thinks I’m being a weenie and not trying, but I truly am. I really want to improve my serve, most girls in my area don’t have a good serve. I can treat them as approach shots and get easy points typically. This would be an awesome weapon if I could improve this. Any tips for keeping my hand in the correct position/gadgets/suspicions of why it’s painful for my arm and hand? It’s painful in the hand and forearm especially. Also unsure of how to do the wrist snap downward. Thanks for any advice!! Edit *I should add that my two handed backhand I have no trouble holding the continental grip and with serves also.

TLDR; hand switches from continental grip to forehand grip during my serve motion and is actually painful to use continental during serve.

EDIT**Update: thanks everyone for your replies! I got a bit overwhelmed and couldn’t respond to each individual comment, but I did order a gadget on Amazon called “grip fixer” and it’s totally transformed my serve. The feeling is still awkward, but it’s helping me hold the grip with no pain. It will just take a while to transition. I am hitting accidental kick and slice serves though which I can’t complain about l

Backhand Forehand

So I'm one of the weird ones: RHBH, LHFH.

I've been playing for over ten years, call myself a serious casual.

Recently been thinking about trying to learn a RHFH. Keep in mind, though, that the only thing I do in life with my right hand is backhand discs.

Anyone have a similar experience? Any advice on where to start? I know there's plenty of "how to learn a forehand" content out there, but it always assumes some competency with that hand, I'm looking for really basic stuff.

Thanks in advance!

What's your opinion on bagging a disc exclusively for forehand throws? Do you or don't you, and why?

I've tried searching for this exact problem, but couldn't find it. I apologize if there already exists a thread about it.

The thing is, no matter what kind of grip I try with my forehand, the rim of the disc seems to drag along the skin on my index finger. Especially the creases on the side of my knuckle. It only gets worse if I try to do as many YouTube-guides suggest, getting the disc "deep" into my hand.

I get considerable flutter on the disc on forehands, and I suspect this might be causing some of it.

Anyone experience anything similar?