LVT-4 perspective as it makes its way towards Iwo Jima while naval vessels including a Cleveland-class light cruiser are on shore bombardment duty
U.S. Navy warships and smaller vessels on the Huangpu River at Shanghai, China, November 1945. A Cleveland-class (?) cruiser is visible in the foreground. [1121x723]
[6256 x 4960]Bayonne Naval Supply Depot, New Jersey, in May 1950. Among the ships present are the USS Franklin (CV-13), an Iowa class battleship, and several Cleveland and Baltimore class cruisers.
20mm anti-aircraft gun in action during the shake-down cruise of an unidentified Cleveland-class cruiser, during World War II.
Cleveland-class Light Cruiser, ‘USS Santa Fe’ CL-60 pulls alongside Essex-class Aircraft Carrier, ‘USS Franklin’ CV-13 as it lists towards its starboard side after suffering two direct hits from a pair of armour piercing bombs, dropped by a lone Japanese plane. Near Okinawa. 19th March, 1945.
The view from an LVT-4 making its way towards Iwo Jima as naval vessels including a Cleveland-class light cruiser are on shore bombardment duty on February 19th 1945
Something a little different: A wide shot of the long-time home of USS Little Rock (CLG-4), the last remaining Cleveland-class light cruiser, Buffalo, NY. [1805x1033]
Cleveland-class Light Cruiser, ‘USS Santa Fe’ CL-60 pulls alongside Essex-class Aircraft Carrier, ‘USS Franklin’ CV-13 after suffering two direct hits from a pair of armour piercing bombs, dropped by a lone Japanese plane. Near Okinawa. 19th March, 1945. (800 x 618)
Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Columbia (CL-56), 6"/47 expended powder casings from Turrets 3 & 4 lying on the main deck aft of the ship during bombardment of Buka Island in the Solomons by CruDiv 12. December 24, 1943. [2772 x 2236]
Japanese battleship Nagato in 12 November 1945 after the Japanese surrender.In the background you can see a Cleveland-class light cruiser. [959x624]
Originally a Cleveland-class light cruiser but was later converted to a guided missile cruiser, USS Galveston (CL-93).[3224 × 2048]
[1135 × 743] A diagram of the inner technical workings of a Cleveland-class light cruiser.
The Hughes H-4 Hercules “Spruce Goose” prepares for take off with 2 Cleveland class cruisers in the background, november 2, 1947.[1442 × 1600]
A Cleveland class cruiser plowing through heavy seas during World War II.
The Hughes H-4 Hercules “Spruce Goose” prepares for take off with 2 Cleveland class cruisers in the background, november 2, 1947.[1442 x 1600]
[1558 x 1008]USS Topeka (CLG-8) (foreground) with USS Boston (CA-69) to her starboard and two Cleveland class cruisers outboard of Boston during the winter of 1972 or the very early spring of 1973 at the Philadelphia Naval ship yard.
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Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Houston (CL 81) off Norfolk, Virginia, 12 January 1944. She is painted in Camouflage Measure 32, Design 1d.[2836 × 1131]
USS Manchester (CL-83), Cleveland-class cruiser, 1950s [2828x2222]
Cleveland class light cruiser cutaway. From All Hands magazine July 1958. [2048X1291]
USS Little Rock (CL-92): a Galveston-Class guided missile cruiser which was originally built as a Cleveland-Class light-cruiser in 1945 (converted during the 1950s). She was retired from service in 1976 and is now a museum ship in Buffalo, New York [1500 x 1000]
WIP Light cruiser next to a DD and a DE. Based somewhat on the Cleveland-class.
Cleveland Class Cruiser Montpelier
U.S. Navy Curtiss SC-1 Seahawk wrecked on board Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Duluth (CL-87) after the typhoon of June 5, 1945.
Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Birmingham (CL-62) escorted by tugs.[5066 × 3798]
The Hughes H-4 Hercules “Spruce Goose” prepares for take off with 2 Cleveland class cruisers in the background, november 2, 1947.[1442 x 1600]
WoWS explaining Cleveland class cruisers. I just learned why she's a good in-game and why she has numerous sisters.
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Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Biloxi (CL-80) catapults a Curtiss SO3C floatplane while on shakedown, circa October 1943. USN photo. [5730 x 4517]
Cleveland-class Light Cruiser, 'USS Santa Fe' pulls alongside Essex-class Aircraft Carrier, 'USS Franklin' as it lists towards its starboard side after suffering two direct hits from a pair of armour piercing bombs, dropped by a Japanese plane. Near Okinawa. March 19, 1945. [1243×960]
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[2560 x 2028]USS Bunker Hill (CV-17) burns after kamikaze attacks on May 11, 1945. A Cleveland class cruiser is nearby.
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[4032x3024] Updated Gato-class submarine USS Croaker (SSK-246), Fletcher-class destroyer USS The Sullivans (DD-537) and USS Little Rock, (CLG-4), the last surviving Cleveland-class cruiser - Buffalo & Erie County Naval & Military Park
Went on a roadtrip to Niagara Falls this weekend, forced my friends to visit this grand old lady with me - USS Little Rock CLG-4, Cleveland class cruiser converted for Talos missiles [4178x2350][OC]
The future USS Portsmouth (CL-102), a Cleveland Class Light Cruiser, all dolled up and ready for launching at Newport News on 20 September, 1944. [3741x2651]
Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Duluth (CL-87) in 1947.[5054 × 3738]
Welcome aboard the USS Little Rock - Cleveland-class cruiser. Inspired by /u/Opie06's video post.
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My favourite class of ships in World of Warships. The Cleveland-class ligh cruiser USS Topeka (CL-67).[1792x1452]
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Did the USN make much distinction between the Cleveland-class and Baltimore-class cruisers when deploying them in WW2?
Having thoughts ahead of the upcoming split. Maybe this isn't the best subreddit to ask, but here goes.
Basically, what I am getting at here is what doctrinal distinctions did the U.S. Navy make between their most modern heavy and light cruisers during WW2 and did these really mean much in practice. (The second part of this question informed by what I know about the Army's medium tank versus tank destroyer doctrine, which largely broke down in the face of reality.)
And did this have much to do with the split in construction? (52 planned Clevelands versus 14+10 for Baltimore/Oregon City.)
I don't have any reference-grade texts at hand that would be relevant.
To Naval Enthusiasts: I have some questions about the Cleveland class light cruisers
I have some questions about the Cleveland class CLs. From what I've read, most historians regard them as slightly improved Helenas. Aside from the obvious changes in armament and size, I tried to pinpoint the other improvement made to the Clevelands. However, sources are sketchy about other structural differences. So I'm turning to you guys:
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Were the Cleveland class cruisers really the first cruisers to have a dedicated CIC?
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Did the Clevelands really have a triple bottom as opposed to a double bottom? None of the diagrams seem to illustrate this feature.
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To what extent were their electronics suite better developed than that of the Brooklyns and Helenas?
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If the USS Houston was a Helena or treaty cruiser, would she have survived getting torpedoed?
Cutaway of the Cleveland class cruiser
TIL The Independence-class of light aircraft carriers, were converted from Cleveland-class cruisers, and the Saipan-class light carriers used the basic form of the Baltimore-class cruiser design.
Interesting background on the Independence class:
>Adapted from the design for Cleveland-class light cruisers, this class of ship resulted from the interest of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in naval air power. With war looming, the former Assistant Secretary of the Navy noted no new fleet aircraft carriers were expected to be completed before 1944.[1] He proposed to convert some of the many cruisers then under construction to carriers. Studies of cruiser-size aircraft carriers had shown the type had serious limitations, and on 13 October 1941, the General Board of the United States Navy replied that such a conversion showed too many compromises to be effective.
>Undeterred, President Roosevelt ordered another study. On 25 October 1941, the Navy's Bureau of Ships reported that aircraft carriers converted from cruiser hulls would be of lesser capability, but available much sooner.[2] After the December 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, the need for more carriers became urgent. The Navy accelerated construction of the 34,000 ton Essex-class aircraft carriers, but these large ships could not be finished quickly. So in January 1942, the Navy also ordered that a Cleveland-class light cruiser then under construction be completed instead as a light aircraft carrier. It became the USS Belleau Wood (CVL-24), the first ship of the Independence-class.
>Plans developed for this conversion showed much more promise than expected. Two more light cruisers were reordered as carriers in February, three more in March, and a final three in June 1942
USS Birmingham (CL-62) was a Cleveland-class light cruiser and is considered to be one of the "fightingest" ships of the Navy and suffered heavy damage on at least three occasions.[1600x1113]
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Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Vincennes (CL-64) approaching San Francisco in 1945. Photographed from stbd side looking aft showing main & secondary armament, AA gun tubs, bridge, search and FC radar antennas, and the obligatory USN airship. [3932 x 2646]
A destroyer escort (DE) drops depth charges while searching for Japanese submarines in Ulithi anchorage on 20 November 1944 after the sinking of USS Mississinewa (AO-59). A Cleveland-class light cruiser (CL) visible in the distance. Seen from USS Bunker Hill (CV-17). [5673 x 4491]
Cleveland-class light cruiser, USS Miami (Cl-89) in 1945.[960 × 748]
Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Astoria (CL-90) shortly after being commissioned in 1944.[1500 x 1043]
Cleveland-class light cruiser, USS Birmingham (CL-62), she earned nine battle stars during her World War II service.[5072 × 3762]
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When the light is long. Overhead photo of Cleveland-class light cruiser USS Houston (CL-81) underway off Norfolk, 12 January 1944. NHHC photo. [6206 x 5004]
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To naval enthusiasts: I have some questions about the Cleveland class light cruisers
I have some questions about the Cleveland class CLs. From what I've read, most historians regard them as slightly improved Helenas. Aside from the obvious changes in armament and size, I tried to pinpoint the other improvement made to the Clevelands. However, sources are sketchy about other structural differences. So I'm turning to you guys:
-
Were the Cleveland class cruisers really the first cruisers to have a dedicated CIC?
-
Did the Clevelands really have a triple bottom as opposed to a double bottom? None of the diagrams seem to illustrate this feature.
-
To what extent were their electronics suite better developed than that of the Brooklyns and Helenas?
-
If the USS Houston was a Helena or treaty cruiser, would she have survived getting torpedoed?
Question about Cleveland-class light cruisers
I have some questions about the Cleveland class CLs. From what I've read, most historians regard them as slightly improved Helenas. Aside from the obvious changes in armament and size, I tried to pinpoint the other improvement made to the Clevelands. However, sources are sketchy about other structural differences. So I'm turning to you guys:
-
Were the Cleveland class cruisers really the first cruisers to have a dedicated CIC?
-
Did the Clevelands really have a triple bottom as opposed to a double bottom? None of the diagrams seem to illustrate this feature.
-
To what extent were their electronics suite better developed than that of the Brooklyns and Helenas?
-
If the USS Houston was a Helena or treaty cruiser, would she have survived getting torpedoed?
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