Well, 2 weeks ago i bought Sir Gawain and The Green Knight and i really like it. I searched about that in internet and saw about Chivalric Romances. I like the knight theme in the books so I want read more Chivalric Romance but I don't know where to start, can you guys help me? Any suggestions?

And did that conquistador experience in the America's in turn affect the knightly romance genre back in Europe?

Just watched The Green Knight and reading about it after taught me the true meaning of chivalric romance. A Knight on a magical quest to prove his worth.

So now I’m itching for some more! Any ideas?

I'm reading (and loving the hell out of) Don Quixote, and its got me very curious to read proper medieval romances. Especially the ones which deal with faeries, giants, and dragons.

Maybe my Google-Fu is getting rusty, but my searches were unhelpful. I just kept finding modern day novels. I'm specifically curious to read the authentic medieval tales and legends.

Which are the best ones and where/how do I start?

I yearn for romance and want a good character to pick Since I can't pick a William the Troubadour start date yet

What I mean is a RPG that you can choose to play as a Chivalrous Knight on an errantry, and has a story that centered around a theme of chivalric quality (i.e. something that resemble a story from an Arthurian Legend.)

(Bonus point if I can customize said Knight backstory to have him come from a peasantry class.)

Swoon...

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#####This week's theme: Genre Party: Chivalric Romance

 

My word, Chivalry? Romance? Just what am I asking for here? Did we do this already?

No no, my friends! This week is just a bit different.

Chivalric Romance, as a genre, is prose or verse narrative that was pretty popular during high medieval and early modern Europe (yes I'm looking at wikipeadia...). The key point here: the themes of traditional romantic stories were used, but an ironic, satiric, and for whimsical mockery. They played with courtly love, the chivalric tenants, high adventure, and the romantic sweeping gestures of moral codes, love, and honour. And then made fun of them.

The best classic example is Don Quixote; our famous knight-errant atop his trusty mule, duelling windmills, and monologuing his days away.

What I'd like to see from stories: Now, I'm not challenging you to just write a medieval satirical story (though would love it if you did). Rather, I'd like you to play around with the themes of romance that you touched on two weeks ago and throw in that whismical mockery. How can those s

Staying together for life, no adultery? Are there such couples we know about?

Hello everybody!

I just recently bought Paladin: Warriors of Charlemagen, a spin-off of King Arthur Pendragon. I am in love with both games ans their unique aesthetic but have moved away from my old gaming group so I am looking for a new one on Roll20.

For those who are not familiar with the games, Pendragon and Paladin have players rp as knights of either King Arthur’s court or, in the newest game, the empire of Charlemagne. The goal is to romance ladies, win lands and titles, climb the feudal ladder, and establish a medieval dynasty of your own so, when your character dies or retires, you can continue playing as your son/heir.

Send me a message or comment below if anyone would be interested in playing.

Call me shallow if you want, I'd just rather be entertained by the Hobbit than depressed by ASOIF. Too much gritty garbage, and while I'm not a big book reader I may as well ask. Sorry if I'm being aggressive about this. I'd like for it to be sort of post-post-modernist, calling out the "deconstructions" in a subtle and tasteful way, but that is far from a necessity and may be more trouble than it's worth.

Broadly speaking, I'm interested in knowing what kind of audiences were buying and reading works of fiction in Early Modern Europe. Most specifically though, I'm really interested in the type of people who were reading Chivalric Romances and similar, since from what I have read about critics of these works, they seem to have been considered the mass-market paperbacks of their day (am I on the right track there?).

Sorry for the long-winded title, I tried to write it in a way that didn't sound like I was gathering data for a corny historical musical.

But to develop a bit, what was the place accorded to love in "real life"? Was love just for songs and litterature?

Did peasants and bergers also tell tales of Arthur, Tristan, and Roland? If so, how were they exposed to it?

Avete Fratres et Sorores,

I am interested in the chivalric literature, which flourished in France in the late Middle Ages. Are there any examples in Latin?

Multas gratias ago vobis omnibus in anticipatione.

As a fan of the Dunk and Egg novellas and all things ASOIAF, I was wondering if r/Fantasy could recommend me some books/novellas/short stories/anthologies, that lean more in the direction of those stories and maybe the stories of King Arthur. I've always been a fan of knights and such and would love to read more stories like that. Any help you guys could give would be greatly appreciate, thanks in advance.

Never read any of the Arthurian cycle. I'll start there unless anyone has better suggestions.

What I have in mind is all these things...

Romance: A love story is pivotal to the plot, which has a happily ever after ending

Action: The danger is real, the pace of the story is quick... with bold heroics and villains to vanquish.

Biopunk: Effects of the biotech revolution will have on society play a crucial role in the setting.

Chivalraic Romance had plenty of action, with knights fighting for their lord and sometimes in defense of their lady's honor. They also had plenty of romance, which played out against the social context of the Middle Ages even when the story was supposedly taking place much earlier. Some of this romance was acceptable in that social context, some was not.

What I have in mind is something like the old fashioned Chivilraic Romance in the context of near-future biotechnological advancement and social stratification through the guise of a modern day action/romance novel.

Any advice you can give on designing the setting?

Hi again. Three weeks ago I posted about a project I'm working on. For those who haven't seen it yet:

>So, I am embarking on an interesting project. I intend to experience the best art and media humanity has to offer before I die. Namely this is all the highly notable and interesting books, plays, art, music, films, TV shows, and video games. I guess you could call it a bucket list. I've been indexing it chronologically and downloading it to an external hard drive.

I then solicited suggestions for highly notable/significant ancient and medieval literature that I was missing from an early draft of what the list would cover. I got over 100 responses; it was clear I was missing a lot. So, I pretty much started from scratch, doing multiple sweeps of any pre-Renaissance literature, and incorporated many of the suggestions I received, ranging from missing individual works to missing authors and cultures.

I should also note that in order to prevent this list from becoming unwieldly, I am limiting myself to 10,000 entries total, forcing myself to take a more deliberate and top-down approach. So far, I have 261 entries for the time span 4000 BC to 1400 AD: 12 Ancient-era, 121 Classical-era, and 128 Medieval-era works. 251 are literature, 10 are music. In other words, 2.61% of the list is Medieval era works or earlier, which seems quite reasonable to me and leaves plenty of room for more modern works spanning across more mediums.

I thought I would share what I have so far before I begin work on more modern stuff. Note that bolded entries are in the top 1,000 works, the cream of the crop, the most notable of all. If you're following along with me and don't want it to take a decade or longer to get through the whole completed list, just sticking to the bolded entries will give you a good taste too.

Ancient Era (4000 BC - 1001 BC)

California is an interesting name because it is named after a fictional queen from a fantasy book published for Spanish readers in the early 16th century by Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo. A dazzling tale of knights and creatures.

You also had Amadis, Orlando, Rinaldo, etc...

What happened to these guys? They were even relatively popular in the 1700s and composers like Handel and Vivaldi made excellent use of their stories for their operas.

Starting in the late 1700s these characters start becoming less and less famous and by the mid-1800s they are pretty much gone, although there is still great admiration for the Trojans, Achilles, etc..

Hello fellow subredditors, I'm summoning your collective wisdom looking for a present suggestion.

My 50-something aunt is often perplexed and amused in equal measure by her younger nerd collegue sharing D&D memes and Renaissance Fair photos on Facebook, so my twisted mind thought about gifting my aunt a fantasy novel with the sort of plots and themes she likes in realistic fiction – so that she might finally get why some people are so fond of "magical" literature! The thing is, my aunt's all-time favourite authors are Mary Higgins Clark for thrillers and Rosamunde Pilcher for romance, and since I'm more of a sword & sorcery / chivalric epic person I do not know any suitable work first-hand, so I'd like to hear you all out: what do you think are the best novels of fantasy romance and/or thriller, possibly by prolific women writers? And with "best" I really mean the creme de la creme in their market segment, basically what Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar series is in sword & sorcery.

Thanks in advance!

One of the best/most-loved series in years, CLOY:

• a grippingly compelling story
• full of incredibly broad/deep characters you cannot help but LOVE
• palpable on-screen chemistry (both Se-ri-Ri & Dan-Goo-Seung)

And CLOY managed it all:

• without more than a few closed-mouth kisses (my absolute favorite on-screen romances [both])
• limited/mild profanity (honestly, who needs an f-bomb in every other sentence?)
• no gratuitous violence/gore (turns out that you don’t need to actually SEE someone’s internal organs to know if they died/were injured)
• and a generally positive & optimistic take on the prevailing ‘goodness’ of most people.

Critics may say it’s naive or overly innocent, but if the show overdelivers on everything an audience could possibly want (besides nudity, ya perv’s), then where is the value in the “darkness”?

If I ever have kids, this series will be front and center in the household — as someone who previously “couldn’t do subtitles”, CLOY makes me want to be a better person. It reminds me that relationships and “being there” for people are really what it’s “all about”

Aside from countless laughs, tears, and “feels”, CLOY has given this ‘relationship-jaded’ 32-yr old dude new hope & a fresh approach to creating meaningful romantic relationships — connection, intent, presence, trust, dependability will maintain & build romance over a lifetime — in my experience, the novelty of sex fades in months, not years

i’m looking for something soft/innocent with a fairytale daydreamy romance. i don’t like when the ml and fl are enemies and are mean to each other, i like when they secretly like each other from the start. i also like when the ml is chivalrous and kind

i watched some of weightlifting fairy kim bok joo but it wasn’t that romantic.

Rotten Tomatoes: 95% (37 reviews) with 8.60 in average rating

> Critics consensus: The Green Knight honors and deconstructs its source material in equal measure, producing an absorbing adventure that casts a fantastical spell.

Metacritic: 89/100 (18 critics)

As with other movies, the scores are set to change as time passes. Meanwhile, I'll post some short reviews on the movie.

> This is a boldly unconventional film full of beguiling ambiguities, which eschews the hard-charging action and self-consciously modern attitudes that made the King Arthur entries of Antoine Fuqua and Guy Ritchie such generic duds. Instead, it embraces the strange remoteness of myth and Middle Ages lore on its own terms and creates something quietly dazzling and new.

-David Rooney, The Hollywood Reporter

> Surreal, stoned, and glistening with a layer of heavy metal realness, David Lowery's medieval adventure is a chivalric romance for the ages.

-David Ehrlich, IndieWire: A-

> The director turns a fantastical dream-poem into the myth under the myth of popular culture.

-Owen Gleiberman, Variety

> There are only a few questions that “The Green Knight” doesn’t have ungenerous answers to, and it shows whenever Lowery and his team can’t bridge the gap between the movie’s images and their emotional content. So while there’s a lot of commendable chutzpah and curious longing baked into “The Green Knight,” the movie’s never as compelling as it is unusual.

-Simon Abrams, The Wrap

> David Lowery’s complex, visually sumptuous and uncommercial tale of Arthurian legend revels in upending expectations.

-Charles Bramesco, The Guardian: 4/5

> The Green Knight is truly astounding. Defying the standards for Arthurian legend adaptations, it heavily favors atmosphere and mood over action and monologues. Substantial performances marry with director David Lowery's su

I searched for Under the Oak Tree and there were a couple posts, but they either didn't get much attention or were very old, so I hope this is okay.

I am currently reading through Under the Oak Tree on LightNovelHeaven and I'm really enjoying it! The plot is great and I adore the romance between the MCs so far. I'm just really struggling to finish it because of the boring parts where the MMC is away and some of the FMC's choices. The version I'm reading is also translated by some people in their free time, so it's a bit rough and that gets frustrating for me. I love a lot of aspects of it and I want something similar, but slightly different.

What I liked:

• MMC Riftan. He is a knight, which I'd really like in any recs. Strong, brave, chivalrous, and all that good stuff. This particular comment perfectly describes him and is everything I love.
• FMC is noblewoman/very naive/sheltered/not familiar with the 'outside' world and MMC worries because of this
• FMC is afraid of MMC at first because he's kind of scary but MMC is a big ole' softie for FMC
• renaissance-esque time period with a little bit of fantasy (aka dragons, sirens, ect.)

What I did not like:

• In UTOT FMC learns magic and stuff to become more independant which is awesome and I like, but I still want her to be a 'lady'. She becomes very outspoken and basically forces her way into very dangerous situations that she thinks she can handle, and then can't. It's been getting on my nerves a bit.
• MMC leaves too much. I feel like that comes with the territory because he's a knight, but it is SO monotanous when he leaves and FMC is basically putzing around until he comes home. I love their romance, but I need more of it.

Basically I am looking for something almost exactly like UTOT, only with more time shared between the MCs and a FMC who is a bit more lady-like and dependent on MMC. I realize this is a very specific ask and that this post is a mess, but I will appreciate anything you all can give me!

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

Sanji vs. Zoro is perhaps the most sensitive topic between One Piece fans and the one with the least possibility of ever getting a resolution. Now there are a lot of reasons for it, but the one I want to discuss is how both of them display concepts of masculinity in wildly diverging ways, and how it effects their relationship, their rivalry, their fandom, and the conflict of their fandom.

And I want to get one thing out of the way, Luffy is a character that generally surpasses both of the others at many of these traits, but Luffy is...really non-macho. He's a big kid, he's not as immature as he was when he started, but at his core, he doesn't exert a lot of grown man energy. That has changed and developed as the story has gone on, but I feel like Luffy's vibe didn't directly contrast with Zoro and Sanji the same way that Zoro and Sanji contrast with each other.

Now, onto the analysis.

Strength: Zoro is one of the most ambitious characters in the series in the sense of his desires for personal accomplishment. Being the World's Strongest Swordsman is one hell of a goddamn feat, and honestly the only one in the main cast that can somewhat match Luffy's in audacity. Likewise, Zoro has demonstrated other smaller, but also outrageous claims about his own personal strength. He defied Enel in a direct, and audacious manner. He was ready to attack a Celestial Dragon before Luffy was. Zoro is a guy that DGAFs really hard. He's personally driven to an insane degree, and that is a very macho trait. On the other hand, you have Sanji, who is much more socially motivated, in the sense that he is a compassionate, self-sacrificing, and loving guy. He is far more likely to jump in to protect others. He is a guy with a deep social code, who feels obligated to protect women, children, the weak, the starving, the injured. He wouldn't let Big Mom be poisoned, even when she was directly trying to kill him, because he refuses to sully his food with anything that isn't food. Kin'emon was a total cock to him but Sanji wouldn't let a decapitated head wander around helpless. He's a loving, honorable fool, who cares a lot for other people. Even his dream is probably the least offensive and threatening dream of every Straw Hat. Even Brook and Nami require, in some way, conquering the Grand Line which is a threat to the WG and other pirates. Sanji wants to find some fish, so he can feed people delicious food. And Sanji does it in a very macho way, he embodies the spirit of a ch

I hope this is the right place for this.

I knew a player wanted to browse a bookseller's stall for an RP purpose (the party is trying to set up two NPCs so he's trying an elaborate thing which involves getting her talking about romantic poetry). I had time on my hands and an expensive education in Elizabethan literature so I made, well, a complete inventory of titles he could browse? We barely used it, but maybe you could!^(1)

I may have liberally used D&D sourcebook chapter titles and stolen the plots of Elizabethan plays.

Due to the needs of the moment, I have divided it between love stories and all other print materials. Obviously you may need to sort if differently.

---Love Stories---

Romances (so "romances" actually refers to adventure stories: Indiana Jones or Star Wars or The Legend of Zelda)

• Dwellers of the Forbidden City -- adventure tale involving the yuan-ti and a distant jungle continent
• Into the Mists -- gothic romance involving many tragic figures (Strahd, Soth) but the protagonists have a proper romantic arc
• Slaves of Sune -- a very tedious allegory about romantic love
• Where the River Goes -- smut involving a forbidden affair between a half-orc and a human merchant's daughter^(2)

Comedies (so this is generally something with a happy ending, not necessarily something funny, but most contemporary romantic comedies are, in fact, comedies in the classical sense)

• Galithaea and Filiade -- a closet drama (written as a script but intended to be read) about elves written by non-elves; two elf maidens independently hide in the forest dressed as young men and fall in love with each other, and they each misunderstand the other's attempt to hint about their true identity; the gods get involved and cause problems, and then Corellon comes in a sorts it all out ... by letting them decide one another's sex and leaving them to figure it out for themselves; whoever wrote this really doesn't understand how the blessing of Corellon works^(3)
• The Night Hanali Slept -- a prose comedy in which everyone's romantic affections are tangled in a massive complicated love dodecahedron but by the end everyone gets paired off in marriage two-by-two
• Oberon and Titania -- a closet drama about the titular archfey entering the mortal realm and causing problems with their domestic squabbles; it's honestly just Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream but in fantasyland and a bit more focus on the archfey

**Drow Roma

Do your worst!

I read Dante's Purgatorio and Paradiso and it indeed has some very lovely passages. But I prefer the literature of ancient Greece and ancient Rome.

Dante has this attitude that everybody is going to hell and look how beautiful my Beatrice is and all of that. Sure, the gentleman was an excellent writer.

But at the same time, where did he get this inspiration of romance from?

The ancient writers never really had anything like a powerful romantic journey for a woman and how celestial and beautiful she is. Or at least I cant really find this.

We may say that Homer's books have romance but they really don't. Paris and Helena are a whole other crowd than Dante and Beatrice. It's a completely different attitude, approach, style, direction, etc...

It makes me curious to know how this notion of "love" developed and how later on we get the chivalric romances and characters like Orlando, Amadis, Rinaldo, and all those swashbuckling knights ready to save their princess from some evil monster. Which is also quite interesting as well, nothing wrong with them.

But we don't really have this in the stories of antiquity. It has a whole different vibe.

They were cooked in Greece.

I yearn for romance and want a good character to pick Since I can't pick a William the Troubadour start date yet

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.