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So we know that Saul Tarvitz asked to swap places with Rylanor the Ancient and not participate in the Assault on Istvaan 3. What do you think would have happened to Rylanor the Ancient is he had not gone down onto the surface of Istvaan 3, would he have gone out in a blaze of glory while aboard the Emperors Childrens' Flagship?would they have put him to sleep in his sarcophagus forever/until they could turn/corrupt him? Was he going to go down in another Assault Wave without knowing those he was going down with had turned Traitor?
I wanna hear some Fan Theories&Stories on this, it seems like it could be interesting to read more on.
Context: many people say the new units are missing the GrimDark aspects of the setting, but then there is this blurb about Redemptor Dreadnought that seems to escape attention:
>It is whispered that the advanced systems of the Redemptor are a curse as well as a blessing. The Martian tech-savants that first built these walking engines of destruction spared scant thought to the health of the incumbent, seeing him as little more than another part to be interred or replaced as necessary. Many Redemptors that have fought for a sustained period have already had their sarcophagi replaced, their original pilots burned out by the intensity of the machineβs destructive prowess.
So "pilot" has the same value to Cawl as o-rings and plasma exhaust vents, and might even be listed on the "Scheduled service" checklist of the Redemptor Dreadnought.
Edit:
The Castaferrum Dread is touted as something that is considered an honor, with the pilots often ending up being the longest-serving members of the chapter, often called upon for their wisdom and experience. We have examples of Dreads like Bjorn (who literally fought in the Horus Heresy) being in dreads and activated in hundreds of conflicts, and able to survive. It is seen as a noble, heroic thing, allowing a warrior to seek their final death in actual combat, and that they, for the most part, can seek that death.
Meanwhile, the pilot of the Redemptor Dread is seen as no more important to it than the reactor fuel, another life to be thrown on the pyre of war that fuels the Imperium.
Definitely seems more GrimDark to me.
https://booknest.eu/reviews/charles/2355-dreadnoughtsbreakingground
4.5/5
My review of DREADNOUGHTS: BREAKING GROUND, which is a "serious" Judge Dredd story about authoritarianism. I suspect half of the audience will run screaming from the premise while the other half will nod vigorously. Let the reader beware.
JUDGE DREDD is a dystopian science fiction series that has always been somewhat schizophrenic in its presentation. This is deliberate and, for many, it is a feature rather than a bug. It started as a satire on American police brutality, action movie cliches, as well as British conservatism (through an American lens) with a hefty dose of black humor.
Dredd is a fascist enforcer of an authoritarian dictatorship but the society is so overthetop that he is seemingly a necessary evil and mostly unaware that the system he serves is worse than the alternative. He is the Law but the Law is run by a bunch of corrupt scumbags running a city of apathetic fools. This has been clear since the "The Day the Law Diedl" arc that was in 1978.
However, Dredd has a certain Misaimed Fandom (see TV tropes) of people who think the Judge system is just dandy and espouse many of their ideas unironically. That if you just got rid of due process, armed the police with unlimited powers, gave them the weapons of an army, and then set them loose then everything wrong with America would go away. This is aimed directly at that fandom with somewhat mixed results.
The premise is that before the nuclear war that created Mega City One when the Judge System was newly implemented, there was a transition period between "our world' and the dystopian future. In Boulder, Colorado, Judge Veranda Glover is assigned to handle protests against corporate corruption and gets eight people killed before being introduced to the local police as their newest assistance. From there, she investigates a child's kidnapping and proceeds to ruin life after life in the name of the Law.
It's effectively telling a Judge Dredd story by having the Dredd figure set against a more "normal" and less cyberpunk world. Judge Glover is lacking even Dredd's sympathetic qualities, however, and rightfully repulses everyone around her. The story is not subtle about police brutality, corruption, the prison-industrial complex, and other issues that underscore the satire of Judge Dredd is not meant to be aspirational.
This is described in the foreword as a horror story rather than a science fiction story and it's cert
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What happens if, say, a Deathwatch squad stumble upon a relic dreadnought from one of the traitor legions, but see that the pilot is from way before the heresy? Would the dreadnought be immediately destroyed? Perhaps it would join the Deathwatch as a blackshield? What do you guys think happens?
Skadi, Flamebringer, and Matoimaru will share one modification, and Nearl, Franka, and Conviction will share the other. A 50%/50% split, this time.
The symbols donβt have an obvious meaning, though.
The solid, square boundary of the first symbol could suggest some sort of damage reduction effect.
The second has a smaller square surrounded by sharp, star-burst lines. Which could suggest a piercing-damage effect.
Alternatively, the square represents a deployment tile. The large and solid square of the first symbol might suggest the Module grants strength for holding ground, and the second symbol (a tile seen dynamically from a great but reducing height) might suggest a helidrop effect.
What? Skadi might not get a helidrop modification? Yes and no.
Unlike Nearl, Skadiβs helidrop S2 doesnβt force her to retreat. Unlike Surtr, Skadiβs S3 doesnβt force her to retreat. She can continue to hold her ground, if that proves more necessary than immediately retreating. Additionally, she needs to hold her ground longer than Nearl or Surtr for her S3 to initially charge, and much longer than Nearl for it to recharge.
Also regarding Skadiβs S2, an effect which increases Skadiβs staying power could help her survive long enough to kill the target before it kills her, which is the problem Nearlβs S2 Shields were designed to fix. So a non-helidrop effect might still help Skadi as a helidropper.
But giving Conviction helidrop-capability, when Conviction self-stuns on touchdown? Not sure what they could give that isnβt redundant with Nearlβs Talent or S2. Nearl already stuns and damages enemies at her landing zone, so I doubt the effect would duplicate that. Nearlβs helidropping S2 also grants her four Shields, so I doubt the effect would be protective.
Franka has no strength or weakness as a helidropper. Her bread-and-butter S2 has a short cooldown and some initial charge, so with a helidrop modification she could theoretically hot-drop in on a hard target and use her Skill at least once.
I get that they get access to the Deathwing Keyword, but I canβt see any stratagems that they can benefit from for it.
I can see they get Implacable, which gives re-roll wounds against characters or 8+ wounds models.
Is it just βDeathwingβ + βCoreβ auras, because I canβt find any that donβt specify infantry.
Help a brother out x
Context:
Freija Morekborn, a Huskaerl (armed serf from Fenris) is called along with her men to watch an Iron Priest and his Servitors from tech-beasts hiding deep inside the Fang while they're awakening the Venerable Dreadnoughts of the chapter for the ongoing siege by the Thousand Sons.
After the procedure is complete and the final blessings and checks are going on, Freija is watching the tech-beasts skulking around BjΓΆrn the Fell-Handed.
"As they crawled into the scant light of the open vault doors, Freija began to make out more of their outlines. They were a motley assortment of bestial forms, all hunched and awkward. There were glints of metal amid the fur and sinew as they moved. One wolf-shape had no visible eyes in its sleek face at all, another had steel claws, and a third had an almost human smile on its tooth-crammed jaws. All of them were gigantic, as big as the Fenrisian wolves that stalked the high places, though with none of their savage grace.
Do not watch them. They take it as a challenge.
The voice rumbled from over her shoulder, almost as deep and machine-thick as Bjornβs. Freija spun round, seeing the profile of another Dreadnought in the dark. As far as she could see, it looked much the same as the others β hulking, angular, humming with coiled menace. Perhaps this one was a little less battle-scarred, a little cleaner looking, but only slightly. She could make out the rune Jner, Pride, on its massive armoured leg.
βThank you, lord,β she said humbly, keeping the bitterness out of her voice. It might have been better to have been told that before sheβd been asked to guard this place. The Wolvesβ love of exuberant danger was maddening. Why, in the name of all the Hels, were such horrors tolerated within the Aett?
The Dreadnought clumped alongside her. It stood motionless for a moment, inscrutable behind its blank fascia of ceramite. It stank of oils and exhaust-fumes.
You are mortal. Why are there no Sky Warriors here?
A good question.
βThey are fully engaged, lord. The Aett is under assault.β
The Dreadnought didnβt respond immediately. Its speech was sluggish and halting.
Under assault, it repeated, as if the concept was hard to understand.
The Dreadnought sank into contemplation. A row of lights flickered along its flanks. Perhaps they were some age-slowed systems finally coming online. Every movement it made was heavy, hesitant and cumbersome.
And I thought I was bad in the morning
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So most die hard fans who digs throughout the archives of the wikis and reads into a-lot of the lore knows that the world government is actually advanced in terms of technology and is fare ahead of like 99.98% of the world. We also know that there are technology inconsistencies but other then that I donβt really understand the marines and the world government. Like you do realize that with metal ships they can basically become god at sea since wood is much much weaker then metal. And with metal the bouncy of the ship is even better allowing for actually turrets to be placed on the ships then with artillery like cannons also placed on them. Lastly the world government is much more United then say the United Nations in our world so why canβt they just get a better fucking navy instead of losing like 30k men in every fucking war or battle. Can someone please answer my question since I really wanna know. Thanks.
Metropolitan Heavy Arms: The Dreadnought Assault Tank
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Propaganda News Reel begins playing:
Dusk of the 24th of December; Burgess Hill, 40 miles south of London. The hitherto quiet small town was a hotbed of activity, swarming with British troops hastily digging in. Operation Sealion had finally arrived on British shores in full force, and all along the southern British coast, defenders were fully engaged in heavy combat with the massive invasion force.
10 miles south of Burgess Hill, the brave defenders at Brighton beach had put up a ferocious defense, pushing back repeated waves of German landing forces, but the enemy seemed to have limitless numbers. On and on, they came, heedless of their losses. After holding them back from sun up to nearly sun down, the beach's beleaguered defense finally collapsed, exhausted, out of ammunition and overcome by repeated Luftwaffe bombing runs. The path to London now lay open. Or was it?
Ad hoc infantry unit of the Home Guard man a Blacker Bombard
Along the outskirts of Burgess Hill, the men of 5th Battalion, Royal Sussex Regiment nervously fidgeted in their hastily dug trenches and foxholes, checking and re-checking their weapons and ammunition. The battalion was an infantry battalion; it boasted little in the way of heavy firepower and they knew it. Between the 600 of them, they had a dozen Boys 0.55 AT rifles, a pair of towed 2 pounder cannon, and a single machine gunned armed Mark VIC light tank scrounged up from a training depot. Nonetheless, they were prepared to fight.
A dust cloud appeared on the southern horizon, and was soon accompanied by the rumble of diesel engines and squeal of metal tracks. The Germans were coming, and coming in force. Distant hazy shapes resolved into the forms of Tauchpanzers III's and IVβs Having learnt their lessons from engaging British Matilda 2s at Arras, these Panzers had been upgunned, n
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