Shaken baby syndrome Puns

Hi everyone, I am a new father and we are delighted to have a lovely daughter. I was holding her in sitting position ready to make her burp with my hand under her chin. She then suddenly jolts back without me realizing … have I hurt my baby? Will this cause shaken baby syndrome? Any experienced parents out there ?

Thank you

hi i think i accidentally shake my sister while putting her to sleep and now i am paranoid and its gonna be my fault and im absolutely anxious and the feeling wont leave me alone an d its getting worse knowing my sister could be fine at first but get worse over time im crying

i was putting her to sleep, its been like 30 minutes and im absolutely frustrated and whenever i think i can put her down, she like suddenly head bang sagainst me and it hurts. i put her sleep by like over my shoulder. and so i like thrusted for like less than 1 seccond out of frustration and i think she bounced 2 times. then i remembered this one perosn telling me about shaken baby syndrome and i havent stopped being nervous and being on verge of tears since.

i cant remember if i was supporting her neck during this but i feel like i was holding her back but i feel like i dont. i think i wasnt holding her neck/head.

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does this count?? can my sister get shaken syndrome from that?

she seemed fine after but i read that babies may seem fine at first but then noticebly get worse over time and its so scary

what kind of shaking causes shaken baby syndrome? please use an example like easy to understand.

is it like shaking your fist angrily but with a baby? or is it like grabbing someone shoulders and shaking them kind of shake? please answer

update: told my mom and aunt and my aunt said (note this is a rough translation)

"well that must only happen if u shake her too hard, and it looks like u didnt"

my mom said

me:"so im worried that i shook her too hard"

her: "you didn't. just don't shake her"

and got from the replies, def need anger management and also it most likely didnt hurt her.

so now ig thats the end. still anxious tho,, ty for the answers!!!

I am tasked with writing a case report (not to be published in a journal, just an assignment for my master degree) on an interesting case that I autopsied, make a claim and then support this with literature reviews. The case I want to report on was a teenager with a medical history of cerebral palsy, epilepsy and later found out from the investigators that the child suffered from shaken baby syndrome. My dilemma is - is there anything surrounding a case like this that merits writing a case report on it? Is the diagnosis of epilepsy or cerebral palsy due to shaken baby syndrome controversial in the field of forensic pathology? From the literature I’ve reviewed so far, it seems like cerebral palsy is understood to be caused by head trauma due to SBS. Is anything surrounding a case like this or similar still controversial in the field of forensics and merits more research? I’m at a loss and would greatly appreciate any advice on how to proceed.

My brothers were trying to soothe my baby and went into a quiet room and one brother held the baby on his chest, head on his shoulder and he walked around the room doing rapid lunges like 2 seconds apart. The. He put his arms straight out and did big swings in the air with the baby between his hands. Baby is one month old. I’m terrified this could cause shaken bay syndrome. How common is this.

Gaining momentum with every win, a disturbing defense strategy is invading courtrooms across America. Its target: shaken baby syndrome — a devastating cascade of injuries that can lead to life-long brain damage in an infant, even death.

A small but vocal group of defense witnesses are telling the courts that the science behind shaken baby syndrome — also known as abusive head trauma, or AHT — has been debunked.

This attack on medical science is overturning convictions and setting legal precedent in the nation’s highest courts — even persuading the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Ginsburg.

But there’s a problem. Major medical associations and child abuse specialists say these claims just aren’t true.

“Medical science, itself, is now on trial,” said Dr. Suzanne Haney, the chair of the American Academy of Pediatrics Council on Child Abuse and Neglect, in a powerful op-ed published in May.

Child abuse specialists say these witnesses are confusing judges, juries, medical examiners and the media with theories for a child’s injuries that may hold little to no scientific validity.

Their efforts are even keeping cases of alleged child abuse from coming to trial.

We begin with the story of one of those cases.

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/12/health/shaken-baby-syndrome-legal-battle/chapter-1.html

Hello. So I had a patient who was ten months old. We got Called to the side of the road. The parents Stated they heard him making “grunting sounds” and “flailing” his arms and pulled over. They thought he could’ve been choking so they called 911 and the operator instructed them to perform backslaps. I don’t believe he was choking. Nothing came out when the mom did backslaps. He didn’t have anything he could’ve choked on.

He was unresponsive with a gaze fixed to the right side. He did blink though occasionally. He did not follow our fingers or react to us at all and he was drooling. His pupils were sluggish to react. His pulse was good but his spo2 was quite low at 85%. We gave him supplemental oxygen and his mental status did not change. Retinal hemorrhages we’re noted. No previous medical hx. Pt did not seize in our presence but did seize at the Er. I wonder if he was just postictal or what was going on. He did grip my finger when I placed it in his palm. His head flopped around freely and his mental status never changed.

Two dear friends became parents earlier this year. They are exhausted, even though the baby has been relatively okay with sleeping.. which still means a shitshow. Guy is a cop, so he already works irregular hours... and now he can't even catch up on sleep. Poor man was dead on his feet. In his work, he has obviously seen shaken baby syndrome. He told me that he could never understand why people did that, until now. "Now I know why shaken baby syndrome is a thing". And he's one of the most mildly mannered men I know. They've wanted kids for ages and they have a great relationship, a house, good jobs... and still it hit them like a ton of bricks.

Fun fact, in the Netherlands you get about 45-50 hours of post-natal care over the first 8 days after birth. These people can do everything from cleaning your house to taking care of the baby so you can get some sleep. And they still give you a number you can call if you feel so overwhelmed that you want to harm your child.

Let me repeat that for the back row. You get a number you can call if you want to harm your baby. It's THAT common to be completely overwhelmed and out of your wits.

Anyone who says having a child is natural, or it's all worth it... I understand. You need some form of doublethink or cognitive dissonance to survive and rationalize your choice. But that doesn't make it true.

Question about shaken baby syndrome, paranoid dad.

Just to begin, I don’t shake my baby, I’ve read and been educated on the topic. I just am a paranoid dad who doesn’t want to be too rough with their LO and has some questions.

I've read that it takes a lot of force to actually cause shaken baby syndrome. From what I've read it's from an UNSUPPORTED neck being whipped around while shaking a baby from under their arms forcing the brain to move around violently inside the skull.

I guess my biggest question is:

• can something like this happen with other movements?

• Like bouncing or vertical up and down movements?

Or if the head is supported all the time is it near impossible to generate enough force to cause SBS?

Our LO is soothed by:

• bouncing on an arm

• being held on a yoga ball and bounced

• held in front of me away from my chest with my arms extended one hand under the butt and other hand behind supporting the head and neck and torso upright moved up and down (not really a bounce, not sure what to call this?)

sometimes we have to bounce pretty big or sometimes short jerky motions but head is always always supported by a hand. There's just a lot of horror stories out there and don’t want to cause harm. Never had any symptoms of anything, very happy baby and meeting all milestones so far (16 weeks).

Thanks!

I was doing some research and it turns out that a young child can have the petechial hemorrhaging that is consistent with shaken baby syndrome.

Beyond this, I'm not medically inclined enough to read the autopsy to know if what it describes that JonBenet had could be similar markings. But that could lead to Steve Thomas' idea that Patsy got very upset with her. Maybe she grabbed her by the shoulders and shook her causing a brain bleed? Or maybe in the shaking she knocked her head against something?

Or for those who believe in the garroting, perhaps the next person to find her shook her trying to wake her up?

Just wanted to get a discussion started here on some ideas on this.

Yesterday my mom told me (23f) that I was shaken and thrown across the room by my biological father multiple times before the age of two. I haven’t talked to him in over five years for different reasons, but this new information hurts so, so badly.

He and my step mother use to berate and/or punish me for things like being clumsy, forgetting what I was doing, tripping over my words or using the wrong word in a sentence, or having a hard time with tasks that really should be simple (things like using scissors, multitasking, puzzles, simple addition, spelling, etc)

It is so, so hard to now realize that I most likely had a TBI from the abuse, and that he was punishing me for something that he directly did to me. I have no desire to contact him (or my step mom) and I’m working through some (misplaced) anger with my mom.

I’m feeling grief and anger- and admittedly embarrassed. I’ve been walking through life knowing that things were SO HARD for me and seemed so easy for everyone else without ever understanding why. My brain is cycling though every awkward interaction, every butt-of-the-joke I didn’t get but laughed along with to feel included, every thing out of my control all my life and now realizing that for all intents and purposes, they happened because I’m mentally damaged and never knew.

Has anyone else survived shaken baby syndrome? Everything I’m finding online talks about immediate response and treatment, and not about how it impacts you years down the line. After some processing I know I need help with this- any ideas?

TL;DR: Survived shaken baby syndrome but wasn’t told about it until recently; am starting to understand what’s been wrong my whole life and need help.

Yesterday afternoon, my partner opened the door to our flat and our six month, Maine Coon kitten escaped. We were desperately looking for her all afternoon/evening and even drove around our Borough to see if she had gotten far. No sign of her. Once we came back, we notified the neighbours to keep an eye on her and also called her vet, as well as the microchipping company.

A few hours ago, our neighbour knocks our door and he has our kitten. She had jumped into his garden (we live in a flat on the ground floor and he and his family have the flat with garden access). He then told us that he had grabbed her and because of that, he had shaken her to stay in place a couple of times.

My partner and I were horrified and we ended arguing with the neighbour about how he could've killed her or given her brain damage. That if anything happens to her, we will go to the police and we will want him to cover any of his expenses. He said we were ungrateful.

We immediately called the vet and asked for her opinion. She says that as long as she is fine, that that's OK and that she has never heard of shaken baby syndrome in a cat before. She told us to keep an eye for neurological signs.

So far, our kitten has none and can see/hear well, responds to her name, grooms herself and uses her little box as normal and as expected. Do you guys think she's OK? I am still worried as kittens can seem fine one minute and not well the other. I am also worried about any brain damage she might have as a result.

Julia left home at 16. Deadbeat mom, no dad around, she had to fight her way through life since she was a toddler. On most days, she had to rely on neighborly pity to be able to have two meals – three or more were an unimaginable luxury.

When mom was home it was even worse. The woman was always either high or drunk and pavlov’ed her into obedience with cigarette burns; Julia hated her guts, but she complied.

Julia was mostly used for theft; she was the perfect size to sneak cigarettes, energy drinks and other essentials inside her oversized grimy hoodie. She knew how to look perfectly innocent, and exactly when to run.

The social workers completely ignored the slum where she lived; like the kids born in there weren’t even worth taking up space in the cold, uncaring system. They were the scum of the scum.

Julia watched most girls her age turn to prostitution so they could either leave their awful parents behind or support their wasted asses, too damaged by addictions and hardships to even function – but Julia didn’t.

She didn’t know if it was a blessing or a curse, her looks weren’t even good enough to be a cheap lot lizard. Not even her awful mother forced her to do it – no, she was better off as the nanny and personal thief of a thirty-something disaster who was never sober.

So Julia just gritted her teeth until she managed to get some underpaid cleaning job, and then bit her tongue for a few more months until her meager savings could pay for rent. Her mother pavlov’ed Julia into spending most of her salary on her toxic shit, but the girl somehow was able to hide enough tips to leave.

Julia left in the middle of the night with nothing more than a worn out backpack. She would probably love to say that she never looked back but that wouldn’t be true.

She was always looking back, terrified of being found and punish for daring to live her life without a dead weight.

You’d think someone like that would at least be smart, hard-working or something, but Julia was average, maybe even bellow. She had no skills, she just wanted to do the bare minimum to scrape by her way through life and be left alone.

And her idea of doing the bare minimum, as you might imagine, was not to raise someone else’s kid.

But let me paint the whole scenario before I get to this part.

Julia was escaping from her mother, moving from city to city and working minimum wage jobs or less. She knew that, as soon as she was found, her autonomy was over. Her life was over. Even her

How fast would you have to shake them??

And I am absolutely freaking out! There were a couple of times were I was so frustrated I was more aggressive with my soothing and swinging of my daughter and it seemed to quiet her. I have never swung her or soothed her without supporting her head and she is not showing any symptoms or anything mind you, she is sleeping peacefully next to me. But I JUST learned about this syndrome and that rocking them too hard can cause brain damage and disabilities. I don’t know what is too much swinging and what is appropriate. My obsessive worrisome brain cannot help but worry that I hurt her in some way by quieting her some time in the past and it hurts to even think of if! Please someone calm me down :( I’m so scared and I kn

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2021/12/health/shaken-baby-syndrome-legal-battle/chapter-1.html

Just to begin, I don’t shake my baby, I’ve read and been educated on the topic. I just am a paranoid dad who doesn’t want to be too rough with their LO and has some questions.

I've read that it takes a lot of force to actually cause shaken baby syndrome. From what I've read it's from an unsupported neck being whipped around while shaking a baby from under their arms forcing the brain to move around violently inside the skull.

I guess my biggest question is can something like this happen with other movements? Like bouncing or vertical up and down movements? Or if the head is supported all the time is it near impossible to generate enough force to cause SBS?

Our LO is soothed by bouncing (on an arm, being held on a yoga ball, held in front of me away from my chest with one hand under the butt and other hand behind supporting the head and neck and torso upright) and sometimes we have to bounce pretty big or sometimes short jerky motions but head is always always supported by a hand. There's just a lot of horror stories out there and don’t want to cause harm. Never had any symptoms of anything, very happy baby and meeting all milestones so far (16 weeks).

Thanks!

Just to begin, I don’t shake my baby, I’ve read and been educated on the topic. I just am a paranoid dad who doesn’t want to be too rough with their LO and has some questions.

I've read that it takes a lot of force to actually cause shaken baby syndrome. From what I've read it's from an unsupported neck being whipped around while shaking a baby from under their arms forcing the brain to move around violently inside the skull.

I guess my biggest question is can something like this happen with other movements? Like bouncing or vertical up and down movements?

Or if the head is supported all the time is it near impossible to generate enough force to cause SBS?

Our LO is soothed by bouncing (on an arm, being held on a yoga ball, held in front of me away from my chest with one hand under the butt and other hand behind supporting the head and neck and torso upright) and sometimes we have to bounce pretty big or sometimes short quick jerky motions but head is always always supported by a hand. There's just a lot of horror stories out there and don’t want to cause harm. Never had any symptoms of anything, very happy baby and meeting all milestones so far (16 weeks).

Thanks!