Schizoid personality disorder Puns

I don't even know why I look up this kind of made up garbage in the first place. I end up getting upset but these are some suggestions that pop up when you Google the terms I titled this post as.

"People with avoidant personality disorder avoid social interaction, even at work, because they fear that they will be criticized or rejected or that people will disapprove of them. For example, they may do the following: They may refuse a promotion because they fear coworkers will criticize them."

---Or maybe they understand that most social interactions are meaningless and don't feel the need to partake in them. Maybe they don't want a promotion, and are content living the way they want. How do you know everyone who turns down a promotion cares what other people think about them?------

"They experience extreme anxiety (nervousness) and fear in social settings and in relationships, leading them to avoid activities or jobs that involve being with others. They tend to be shy, awkward, and self-conscious in social situations due to a fear of doing something wrong or being embarrassed."

------ Wait so you're telling me they get nervous in certain situations? Lock them in the Looney bin and throw away the key! (Kidding obviously) Again, why do they need to socialize and take part in relationships? A lot of people who are in relationships cheat, lie ,gossip and fantasize about escaping the situation constantly. Why aren't they labeled with a mental disorder? And if YOU label a person as awkward YOU are the reason they don't want to be around YOU. ------

"Schizoid personality disorder is an uncommon condition in which people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others. They also have a limited range of emotional expression."

----What exactly is emotional expression? And what is the scale we use to measure the 'normal range' of it? If you can explain that to me than I will explain why however you explain it to me is subjective and frankly stupid.

One common definition of emotional defines it as 'a state of feeling'::: so if that's the case how is it that you are measuring how a person is feeling and how they choose to express each feeling? How many feelings are there? It's like colors- not every feeling has an assigned expression, just as not every color has an assigned shade.----

Im diagnosed with Aspergers (in 1998) and depression (in 2009). My question is how would I notice a schizoid personality disorder? Isn't it very hard to tell these 2/3 apart?

Could I just go to a doctor and diagnose myself?

I know other aspies from meetings, many of them have a job hobbies and are happy. I dont. Im not interessted in anything for years.

I searched "schizoid" on TikTok out of curiosity (I know, I rarely go there because it's not a very good app. I just like nature videos there.) and there was a person saying that SzPD shouldn't be in the DSM. There seems to be so many of these kinds of people.

It's considered a disorder for a reason. It's not just being extremely introverted or just not liking to be around people much. There's so much more to it. Shows how grossly misunderstood this disorder is and how little people know of it.

I have been reading a bit about both personality disorders but struggle to find an example of someone who lives with both simultaneously. Now, I know all is a spectrum and we can’t generalize. But I’m still interested in one example.

I (F) was diagnosed at age 18; am in my 30s now. I have other coexisting mental health conditions (depression, ADHD), but it feels like so many things in my life are even harder SPECIFICALLY because I'm schizoid. Even when compared to other personality disorders, I feel like a space alien in my own country constantly.

We Filipinos are reared to be very social people with strong family ties, but I feel NOTHING for my family. I love them only in a superficial obligatory way; otherwise it's like I feel nothing (aside from maybe guilt that my family is forced to love someone who doesn't love them back through no fault of their own). And don't even ask if I have friends or a love life.

I barely feel any strong emotions at all unless I disappear into my hobbies or the fantasies I make up in my head. I don't even have any strong feelings or memories of happiness because my happiness technically doesn't exist. Being alone is my default state.

I do not trust people at all nor have any strong urgent desire for deep intimate relationships, but I still experience crushing loneliness. It doesn't make sense at all, and it's frustrating. I don't want to enter an unfair relationship where the other person will have to do all the work, but I can't reciprocate warmth or affection like in a normal partnership. That's what being schizoid is, and I don't want to be peer pressured into something I'm not just wired for. It's not like your regular social anxiety; it's like being allergic to food while also dying of starvation.

I have no goals or ambitions, or at least none strong enough to motivate me to get better long-term. (That's partially the ADHD's fault too.) If you're mentally ill, it's repeatedly stressed how important it is for you to have a caring support system and a sense of purpose/self-preservation for you to cope/recover. I have neither of those things outside of my therapist/s, and only until I can no longer afford them. So I guess I should just crawl into a hole and disappear forever, then?

I don't really know why I'm posting this here. I guess it's just the thought of me being the only schizoid in the Philippines is horrifying. I could post in r/Schizoid instead, but something about having to reach out all the way to some stranger in California for common ground was just too abhorrent.

I kind of go on a tangent here so feel free to just answer my title and not bother with the rest of the post.

I don't know if I have this disorder, but I do know I have difficulty (maybe even near inability) forming bonds with people, emotional empathy, and engagement in socialization. At this knowledge, self-improvement isn't the first thing that comes to mind; I just see these qualities as innate parts of me I cannot and don't have the motivation or energy to change. And yet, I remember myself as a young child. I was still very introverted, but I was far more attached to people. Maybe that child died as life progressed. Maybe she wasn't detached enough to survive this world. Did she die slowly or quickly? Did she die at all?

I sometimes wonder if I can ever bring her back, if she can repossess this body I call mine, and if she can continue her normal life. Maybe I could watch from the sidelines. Maybe I'd be just a demon in her head, to be killed with medication. Or maybe I'm here to stay.

Sorry, I went on a tangent there. My question is if there is any way I could bring that version of myself back. I've had friends, I've had them for years and I've opened up and everything. Nothing changed. I've excelled in my studies, set goals and achieved them. Nothing changed. I've introspected and I've helped others and I've hurt them, I've read and I've talked and I've done all I think I can - but I'm still here. A vessel to endure trauma until the real me can come back, but she never has. Have I killed my creator?

I don't have DID or anything, I just like metaphors, but the feeling is still true.

So I went for a mental health evaluation and they told me I’m not autistic but instead I have schizoid personality disorder. I’m officially diagnosed with autism. However this psychiatrist believes my results from the previous test was wrong. I read through the symptoms and I don’t really agree with the results. Maybe I’ve overreacted and actually just have schizoid instead of autism this whole time. I was diagnosed later in life so I probably just had schizoid personality disorder this whole time.

Hola. Dang I remember when there was only 3000 members here! Glad to see this community growing.

So I've known I'm Aromantic for about 2&1/2 years now, but recently after a long Psychiatric Evaluation, I was diagnosed as having Schizoid Personality Disorder.

I'm curious to know how much overlap there is for people both being aromantic and having schizoid personality disorder. Of course there's really no way to know, but they do share similar traits: > Schizoid personality disorder: A condition in which people avoid social activities and interacting with others.

>Schizoid personality disorder typically begins in early adulthood. People with this condition don't desire or enjoy close relationships, even with family, and are often seen as loners. They may be emotionally cold and detached

I'm also wondering if aromanticism would often be mistaken for schizoid personality disorder when doing a psych eval. It's convient for psychiatrists and those in the medical community to sum up everything in a "disorder", as it gives them a "diagnosis", but I don't know.

I do feel like I fall in the category of SPD, and I am aromantic. So I think I was evaluated correctly, but I think if most people tell Psychiatrists they have no desire for romantic relationships, they could mistakenly be marked down as having schizoid personality disorder, or some other disorder (again, they love to use the term "disorder" for everything...I was also shown to have Avoidant Personality Disorder, Somatic Symptom Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, and Social Anxiety Disorder).

Anyways, just curious if anyone else here has been evaluated as having Schizoid personality disorder. Certainly not all schizoids are aromantic, and not all aromantics are schizoids, but I imagine there is some overlap, just have no idea how much, and really no way of knowing.

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TLDR - I think I have been misdiagnosed, and am devastated after the time and money I spent trying to get an official autism diagnosis. Can anyone give me some support or their stories of being diagnosed with asd after being misdiagnosed with other things? I know misdiagnoses are common in women and minorities, but I still can't feel like I am being crazy and that my tester must know more about me than I do and that I just don't want to believe her assessment.

So I recently was diagnosed with a bunch of things that just don't feel right to me. My tester told me I struggled with attention, but not consistently enough to warrant a diagnosis even though it interferes with my daily life. She told me it was clear I struggled in some social situations and did not relate to people like NTs do. But that I did not consistently enough meet all the criteria for ASD (even though I met most if not all of it according to the DSM). She seemed really surprised when this hurt me so much, and triggered a complete meltdown on our call. I felt so invalidated, and like she wouldn't listen to me or my specific struggles. She kept saying how labels don't really matter anyway - but they matter to me, and would help me immensely to describe my experiences to others. She also said that I was "too hung up" on the negative aspects of my struggles, but again, I paid her to look at them - if a doctor told me I was "too focused" on a broken arm, they would be a bad doctor.

She diagnosed me with depression (which I already knew), hypomania, and schizoid personality disorder, which doesn't seem to fit at all. I am a bit awkward sure, and I enjoy solitude and am eccentric. But I love my family and my friends. I enjoy being around other people and seek them out. I don't consider myself to be cold, detached, or apathetic, I just sometimes appear that way because of my body language/voice. I am very empathetic and I have a deep intimate relationship with my fiance, and have friendships with many people who are on the spectrum. I am not at all close to asexual, and my social and sensory struggles started as a kid. SPD also doesn't describe any sensory overload symptoms which are the bulk of my struggle, and she claims that I don't really show "enough sensory difficulty" for autism even though she never really asked about it?

Am I crazy for just feeling in my soul that this doesn't fit and there's more to this? Is it insane for me to want a second opinion or an "official" diagnosis when I am

Not necessarily due to saying it, but because it's reminded me of just how far removed I am from how others experience the world. As well as how uncomfortable it makes others to hear.

Strongly considering saving for psychotherapy, as I'm tired of being this way, and it is beginning to interfere with interpersonal relationships despite wanting things to work.

Hello. If you don’t want to read this whole thing, the question is very simple, as stated in the title.

So, I am in the process of figuring out what is so called «wrong» with me with a psychologist (I know there isn’t really something wrong with me, I am just different than many and most people, and don’t function well in this crazy society we have created for ourselves). I have had a very difficult life, and since middle school, I have not been able to do school like others, and never managed to keep a job. After yet another breakdown, I decided to seek help. Right after, I read about autism in women, and I started crying and had a mental image of puzzle pieces falling into place. I was in awe pretty much, because FINALLY, something relatable. After months going to a psychologist, filling out and answering what in the end felt like an endless amounts of forms, she said to me: «I don’t really find you «weird» enough to have autism», and she landed (for now) on a schizoid personality disorder, acknowledging that I am a complex human being, and after endless forms, she doesn’t really have enough info. I still think I have autism inside my brain. I have tried to read, and in many ways, I can see myself on the schizoid side of things too, but it feels no way the same as the recognition with autism. It makes me feel down, really, because I was so sure (but always a little voice doubting), and now I pretty much doubt my whole self and my reasoing ability. Does anyone have some understanding about the differences between these two diagnosis? In a way that can help me understand the difference better than the complexity of the internet? Thank you in advance... wishing you all a good day!

Edit: Wowiwow... Thank you SO much to everybody who has taken the time to read this and to respond to it! I have no words to fully express my gratitude. Just to imagine there are so many nice people out there, I am pretty much amazed... all the best to all of you.

•I would like to know if theres is any difference between male and female symptoms (like with Aspergers)? Because most people that Ive googled or heard that are diagnosed with SPD are men. (Normally older people(I’m 22) and the way they are described like they are a bad person cold narcissist. My aunt is married to a guy that was diagnosed with SPD and she keeps comparing me and him but are nothing a like! He is super narcissistic and a person I don’t like the attitude. •And if its normal to have this disorder since childhood ? My mother always notice I was different. And she thought I had Aspergers ( now its called in the autism spectrum) but my psychiatrist diagnosed me with SPD(SPD, depression and anxiety). Since I was a child i have been to so many psychiatrists. Now i finally have a diagnosis. And I don’t know anyone (besides my aunts husband ) or better any other women with SPD (to talk to). •And I don’t feel like I can find things about SPD online , in movies , instagram etc people talking about it. Women talking about having it . Sorry for my english!

I guess the title speaks for itself, I really really love my Gf alot we've been together for a year now, and I need advice on how to make this work If I can... I'm trying to better understand this personality type, but she can be really draining at times and distant , and I'm not shaming this personality disorder it's just super new to me and didn't even know what this disorder was before now I'm trying to keep this post as PC as possible but after hearing this I'm intrigued?, a little confused, and understanding her a behavior a litte better now, She knows I love her, and she lets me know she loves me to, I don't want our relationship to fail because she is a cool person and awesome to me but its really frustrating i'm patient though but like said i'm just super confused as to what to do now, and want to help.

I sought help from anxiety back in 2018 through a professor in university as I could not work with other people and never needed to do anything like that throughout my life before. I did not want to seek help, by the way, but had to do it anyway. I went through CBT with minimal changes; could call people or buy something at the late age of 19 though. But my personality was still the same and my desire for isolation and no relationships was still intact.

My psychologist then changed job and I got a new one in 2019. This one suggested I might be autistic since I did not show any desire for knowing other people and sent me to a specialist who was to diagnose me - "with autism or anything else", she said.

Today, I learned I was to be diagnosed with autism after much resistance to be diagnosed at all until I failed yet another university course because of the same difficulties. "Asperger's it is," the specialist said, yet I feel like she diagnosed me with it, so that I can get help from rehabilitation programs available for people diagnosed within the spectrum in my country. I am not complaining at all and I see why she would diagnose me with this as I have tried everything else, but medicines, to get accustomed to people with, obviously, failure.

The reason why I feel Asperger's is not where my problems come from is that I was pretty normal until the age of 7 where I got into an unfortunate situation and then developed selective mutism throughout my childhood to the age of 15 where I learned the hard way to "speak" with people in my class in high school. I was fortunate enough to "use" a girl to accompany me in group projects as I did her homework and in return, she just helped me get through social settings without ever becoming my friend. I bet she thinks she was the one using me!

Obviously, university was different and with lots of group projects. I just could not go through with it. I failed three major university studies just because I disliked group projects and could not cope with them - thus a professor suggested I go to a psychologist.

I fantasize a lot, almost everywhere. I thought everyone did the same until I realized people found it odd I kept looking out through the windows in the bus without moving an inch. People just looked at me as if I was weird or something for doing that - something I realized very late as I never paid attention to anything but myself in most situations.

There are things, which oddly enough makes me think I might hav

It’s worrying how many of the symptoms I show. Lack of motivation/flat affect, lack of enjoyment for life, compulsive avoidance of social situations and the outside world etc.

They are basically just serial killers... Where does someone like me get enough motivation to start killing people?

I have Aspergers and from what I understand, one can’t be diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder “during the course of autism” according to the DSM. However, I’ve noticed myself developing overt schizoid traits as I’ve gotten older that seem separate from the autism. I used to be highly emotional when I was younger, but as of the past four years I’ve lost the capacity for emotional empathy. My emotions seem dull and I’ve sort of acquired a flattened affect. I no longer feel social anxiety; now I’m just more comfortable in isolation. I find people to be very annoying and I have zero desire for romantic or sexual relationships. This probably overlaps with depression, however these traits are independent of whether I’m in a depressed state or not. I’m still this way when I’m feeling great. Could this comorbidity be possible?

My best friend and I have been friends for over two years - we met in the same program at college, and I was initially really drawn to his laidback attitude and absence of ego. He was always down for anything, always agreed with anything I had to say (not a good trait, in hindsight), and never made me feel stressed. However, as the months went by, I started to notice a lot of the tropes you might experience with an individual who exhibits SPD, but was unaware of at the time (e.g. never initiating a conversation, staring blankly at me during conversations, never exhibiting positive/negative emotion to any events or news, having no friends apart from me, nonexistent relationship with his immediate family; in essence, total detachment).

I'm not one for DIY psychology, so I never try and pin a condition/disorder onto my friends but throughout our entire relationship, I was always shocked when I would notice his total lack of ambition in life - he claims to have no passion or interest in anything, or any hobby (he says college was just a way to get a job and make money). He doesn't watch movies, shows, read books, play videos games, listen to music, do sports (has yet to find a hobby he likes at all) and all in all does not crave any friendships or relationships - he got out of his one and the only relationship he's ever been just about a few months before we met (whom he claims asked him out, not the other way around), and has since never been interested in rekindling a new one.

On top of detachment to our friendship, he always promises to make good on mutual goals or plans - like hanging out or messaging me, but never does. Every time I bring it up, he agrees and apologizes without hesitation and immediately repeats the same thing after promising to make good on his word. His parents/family (whom I've met) seem to be really outgoing and positive, and very social - but do not seem to take interest in his lack of any of those things. Like I've said, I always find that it's me who is initiating plans, texting first, making jokes, complimenting him, thinking of stuff for us to do - and I don't believe I am overbearing because he has said he loves that he has a friend that can do all of this stuff for the both of us, which is when I noticed how one-sided our friendship really was. I'd brought up how he makes me feel on several occasions and he'd always seemed to be sympathetic in the moment, but would immediately forget anything I'd said the coming day - as he'd

I don't have ASPD - this disorder is weirdly censored in some of the schizoid groups

It's apparent the stereotypes scare people... But honestly.... don't know why? The disorders overlap & the some of the criterion are the same

some of my traits, to give an example

>0 empathy
Prefer isolation
0 emotions
Apathy @ Everything
Anhedonia
Cold / Calloused

This is why i don't understand the censorship in Fb's Schizoid Support; they remove every ASPD-related post, from questions to research studies.

• question: "do any other Schizoids have ASPD, too?" ^(removed)
• journal: Is Schizoid Personality a Forerunner of Homicidal or Suicidal Behavior?: A Case Study ^(removed)
• someone asked if others had violent urges ^(removed)
• Study: "Association of Schizoid and Schizotypal Personality disorder with violent crimes and homicides in Greek prisons" removed

If anyone has both and wants to explain what it's like having both, I appreciate it.
^(I'll ask) r/Schizoid ^(if i don't have feedback, i just don't want to listen to stereotyping)

thank you

I wanna add that my case does vary, but I consumed roughly 600ug lsd, and was at around 10pm went on a walk and called my girl, and when it started kicking in went home cause cops were there for some shoplifting or drug shit and gave me really weird paranoia I've only felt on methamphetamines so went home and that's when I peaked and all my pain I once felt as a child was being felt all over again and I lived through every second once again the exact memories that made me into a schizoid but instead of feeling as no one cared like I felt growing up she was there comforting me through it all and through this process I physically felt the schizoid walls falling which was extremely painful physically and emotionally I got through it and let her in and she saw the me that only I know come out

This definitely doesnt cure my schizoid personality disorder but it allowed me to feel something so deeply that it drove me to feel genuine emotions for another person let alone let them this deep into my life this just gave me hope and showed me what's possible

What causes Schizoid Personality Disorder with it's detachment from the world and not caring about anyone/anything? Any neurobiological theories that have been put forward?

A couple weeks ago I was just this happy asexual who survived child abuse, enjoying the freedom and financial independence I achieved, content with my simple, frugal and lonely lifestyle, with limited social interactions and no desire for intimate relationships, which I attributed mostly to my asexuality and my desire to be stress and drama free.

But now it turns out I might just be mentally ill? Am I supposed to be sexual, greedy, dependent on others and their opinions, and add more stress to my life?

Where is the line drawn between a mental disorder and an alternative lifestyle?

Hi there, i would like to learn more about Schizoid Personality Disorder

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Much appreciated in advance, thanks!

Is it possible to have both schizophrenia and SzPD?

I would just consider myself a person who, unlike everyone else around me, does not live for the happiness hormones.

My boss is on vacation and I’m bored at work. This is the only thing unique about me. Ask away.

I’m undiagnosed, and I’ve recently been worried I may have schizoid pd rather than ASD. I’m very indifferent to friends and family and tend to be unconnected and impersonal with them. I really only like my mom, but I think I can be manipulative and use my mom to get what I want? But we do bond and have fun though, I think. I’ve been pretty bored and blank lately though.

I wouldn’t necessarily mind friends, I just don’t see myself ever needing them. Or the relationship being worth the effort. Am I just really selfish and introverted?

I think I have sensory issues but now I’m doubting myself. I was upset when I lost my friends a few months ago, but now I’m pretty jaded and don’t care. Is this quarantine + ASD or have I developed schizoid? (I’m 18).

I’m pretty troubled by this, have any of you felt this way? I’ve tried finding the differences between ASD and SPD but honestly I relate heavily to both :(

For years, I (25) got diagnosed with depression; and while it was part of my symptoms, I’ve only been recently diagnosed with SPD.

It felt like an atomic bomb launched on me. My life has been a living hell for the past few months; my symptoms got much more intense and worrisome, therapists think it can degrade and get worse if we don’t find the right treatment to stabilize it…

I feel absolutely broken, unable to live like everyone else. I feel like damaged goods; I shouldn’t be alive, I feel like a waste of space and oxygen. It’s all new to me, but it only comforted me in the idea that I’m broken.

Is anyone here who has been diagnosed and is currently professionally taken care of tell me what their life is like; is there hope for a « normal » life? Can I ever be happy, fulfilled?

I don’t really know what I’m looking here, I sincerely just need to vent, and support.

Thanks all

i do not know if its hard for me to make friends because of avoidant personality disorder or because of schizoid personality disorder?

If you want to see what this means read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder