A list of puns related to "Obviative"
Hello! (This isn't a conlang presentation but rather a wordy question with examples showing my thought process in trying to understand the fusion of these two topics. In short: is it feasible?)
*proximate / obviative (my mistake in the title)
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I've been experimenting with direct-inverse marking to distinguish between proximate and obviative pronouns in the 2nd and 3rd persons, (some influence from a few Nilo-Saharan languages in marking the 2nd person obviative in addition to 3rd).
I've also been investigating logophoricty in some West African languages, with a specialized set of pronouns for different referents than the speaker in indirect discourse.
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(*update: I now see that I had this idea backwards. In languages with logophoricity, logophors refer to the quoted speaker, and regular pronouns refer to a different referent. Thus, logophors are often reflexive. I'll leave the original post unedited to highlight my errors).
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Examples: | ("that" omitted for brevity). |
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"He said he knew it'd happen." | He said he himself knew. |
"He said he.(different) knew it'd happen." | He said [some other guy] knew. |
Or when someone's scolding two brothers, "You said you'd be careful!" | Both scolded as a group using 2nd person plural ~ "Y'all said it." |
"You said you(prox/obv.)'d be careful!" | Where proximate could refer to scolding the elder brother, and obviative the younger. ~ "You(specific) said it." |
With more than two people involved, parents using the proximate could refer to the eldest child by default, and obviative for all ages below. Or for groups in general, the natural leader of the group vs. followers.
Would it be possible to use proximate and obviative forms as logophors? Rather than just animacy, to distinguish between age, status, perceived importance, etc. of the referents in indirect speech?
Proximate Logophoric | He said he(different) knew | Someone said the king knew |
Obviative Logophoric | He said he(different) knew | Someone said the peasant knew |
Proximate Reflexive | He said he himself knew | The king himself said he knew |
Obviative Reflexive | He said he himself knew | The peasant himself said he knew |
However, I've also wanted to make a topic-prominent language, so maybe the topic could be proximate and the focus be in the obviative? I'm unsure.
Inverse marking:
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TL;DR at bottom.
Apes are trying to crash the manipulated market by removing enough physical that it can't continue.
Meanwhile investors/speculators are out there treating Paper Silver as if it was Physical Silver in the belief that they can trade their paper for physical either at any time, or at a set time soon to arrive.
In the additional meanwhile, the Basel III freight train is barreling down the tracks -- next stop June 28 for the EU, which includes some number of bullion banks in the LBMA and COMEX.
Basel III makes paper silver either unprofitable, or completely out of the question, meaning that a lot of unallocated silver holders are also now out in the cold.
This means that for those of them who want to maintain exposure to silver prices there are 2 options:
Buy physical -- stressing the limited supply even further.
Buy silver ETFs to track the price -- many of whom will have to buy physical due to no easy paper for them any longer either. 100% silver ETFs also either buy remaining physical, or stop issuing units.
TL;DR Basel III may lead to a lot of paper silver holders suddenly having no option but to invest in a very limited supply of physical silver if they want to remain in silver at all.
In my language SacfΓ«rh Narastes there is a system of obviation, and I was wondering whether it was an odd choice to mark the proximate as I know that many languages mark the obviate. It just didnβt seem like it made logical sense to me, because the whole point of having this system is to background things, so why give it its own special morphology?
Thatβs how I thought anyway, someone more knowledgeable please tell me Iβm wrong lmao
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Was a response to THH.
TL;DR at bottom.
Apes are trying to crash the manipulated market by removing enough physical that it can't continue.
Meanwhile investors/speculators are out there treating Paper Silver as if it was Physical Silver in the belief that they can trade their paper for physical either at any time, or at a set time soon to arrive.
In the additional meanwhile, the Basel III freight train is barreling down the tracks -- next stop June 28 for the EU, which includes some number of bullion banks in the LBMA and COMEX.
Basel III makes paper silver either unprofitable, or completely out of the question, meaning that a lot of unallocated silver holders are also now out in the cold.
This means that for those of them who want to maintain exposure to silver prices there are 2 options:
Buy physical -- stressing the limited supply even further.
Buy silver ETFs to track the price -- many of whom will have to buy physical due to no easy paper for them any longer either. 100% silver ETFs also either buy remaining physical, or stop issuing units.
TL;DR Basel III may lead to a lot of paper silver holders suddenly having no option but to invest in a very limited supply of physical silver if they want to remain in silver at all.
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