[ Grade 12 : Organic Chemistry] Keto Enol tautomerism. When there are 2 double bonds with Oxygen that can be broken to form alcohol, should the Enol form have 2 OH or only 1? reddit.com/gallery/ja4477
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Question about Keto-Enol Tautomerism??

Can a Keto tautomer turn into its Enol isomer WITHOUT the presence of an acid or base? Like can the oxygen on the keto tautomer just grab its own alpha hydrogen? or are the oxygen and alpha hydrogen too far apart from each other?

Thank you guys! I feel like I'm getting conflicting information between my book and the interweb.

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Thanks, I hate Keto-Enol Tautomerism
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Do the terms enol and keto refer specifically to ketones/aldehydes, or are these blanket terms to describing tautomerization between carbonyl containing compounds in general.

For example, can an amide be said to be in the keto form, and is the tautomerized version of the amide still called an enol even though it does not contain a C=C double bond (but rather a double bond to a nitrogen)?

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When your Ochem prof explains Keto-Enol Tautomerization
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Alkyne hydration to form enol which tautomerizes to form keto

Okay, lets take another swing at this. I posted earlier this morning half awake, just to realize I really screwed up on my mechanism. So I just came back to this and lets try this again. Would this be a valid mechanism for the following problem?

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Can enols tautomerize back to the ketone form before attacking a electrophilic carbon?

Since enols are weak nucleophiles, is there a chance that this occurs which may interfere with the reaction?

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C/P Keto Enol forms

Hey guys, I read online that in conditions of pH < pKa, keto form is preferred over enol form due to protonation. Can someone please explain what this means?? I thought keto form was referring to aldehydes and ketones and enol was referring to alcohol, so wouldn't an alcohol be protonated?

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Orgo I Keto vs Enol - Could this product also be an Enol and still be marked correct or would Ketone be the only connect answer here?
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Keto vs. enol monosaccharides

I just learned that monosaccharides are in their keto form when itโ€™s linear and in their enol form when they are cyclic. Does this mean that sugars are more happy and stable in their linear form? This seems weird to me since rings seem more stable but I learned that keto forms are better..? Thank you.

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Why does keto-enol tautomerisation occur?

Most sites tell me that it is because the alpha hydrogen is acidic but why is this so? In carboxylic acids, it is because the conjugate base is "resonance stabilised". Resonance does not stabilise the conjugate base per se. It is the delocalisation that confers the extra stability. However, to my knowledge, tautomerisation is not resonance. Therefore, there is no delocalisation in between keto and enol forms (otherwise they would be resonance forms of each other) Why then is the alpha hydrogen so acidic compared to an alkane?

If something is acidic it would mean its conjugate base is stabilised by something. But since that something is not resonance, why is the alpha hydrogen acidic? It is not to say that the C-H bond is particularly polar. (Note that I am not asking for the definition of a strong acid)

Thanks for reading!

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How does the substitution of bromine for methyl group at 5' site turn Thymine from keto form into enol form?

As title. My teacher just simply said because 5-bromouracil is alike thymine in enol form so it switches, which doesn't explain the cause of the tautomerization.

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Keto-Enol

I have a hard time logically understanding why the keto form is so much more prevalent than the enol. After a lot of reading, I came up with this: The C=O bond is stronger than the C=C bond, because the pi bond is very distorted with the electrons staying closer to the O. The carbon has enough electronegativity as to not want to let go of his electrons. Also, C and O are more attracted towards each other by being dipoles.(this one sounds weird even to me).

Am I right? Or could someone please give me a more logical explanation? Thanks guys/gals.

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help with enol and keto and enolates

I have uploaded an image with my attempt at the keto and enol forms of a given molecule, which is posted here: http://i.imgur.com/vfhVfEn.png

Would I be right to assume that for the keto form you simply place the double bond at the oxygen and remove the H? And for the enol form you remove the double bond from the oxygen and add a hydrogen making it a OH group and place the double bond at either carbon next to the carbonyl carbon it as long as both carbons are alpha carbons with at least one enolisable hydrogen?

Also would it be right that for a given molecule such as shown in image 3, the carbanion form of the enolate ion can either be on either carbon as shown since there are two alpha carbons both with enolisable hydrogens? Thanks

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Hydrazone to enehydrazine (TAUTOMERISM)

I have 2 questions:

  1. I don't really get how the arrows from the hydrazone to the enehydrazine should be drawn
  2. Out of interest, which one would be the most stable structure?

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[ASAP] Dynamics in Catalytic Asymmetric Diastereoconvergent (3 + 2) Cycloadditions with Isomerizable Nitrones and ฮฑ-Keto Ester Enolates

Journal of the American Chemical SocietyDOI: 10.1021/jacs.1c02833

Tetsuya Ezawa, Yoshihiro Sohtome, Daisuke Hashizume, Masaya Adachi, Mai Akakabe, Hiroyuki Koshino, and Mikiko Sodeoka

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Scythe done by Enol at A mar de tinta Tattoo, Spain.
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Word of The Hour: tautomerism

tautomerism: the condition, quality, or relation of metameric substances, or their respective derivatives, which are more or less interchangeable, according as one form or the other is the more stable. it is a special case of metamerism

See tree for tautomerism: https://treegledictionary.org/define/tautomerism

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Tautomerism

Is tautomerism a rearrangment reaction ?

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Helo hรกrdroรฎ upa Reddit, on enol indol pรฉ et. Meqen ot hรฉral?

On enut frren lote ge ot meqen

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Are these all the enols possible in this reactions, and is the circled enol the most stable for the right reason?
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What is the reason for converting to silyl enol ether in the kinetic pathway? Likewise, why convert to lithium enolate in the thermodynamic pathway? Thanks
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Does anybody have some good resources for enolate/tautomerization/aldol etc.. all those weird reactions? Not just videos.. but actually worksheets with decent solutions (doing UWORLD atm)

Thanks :)

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In an Alpha Carbon Carbonyl reactions through intermediate enols and enolates, would the Enol and the Enolate be the nucleophile? My text book has conflicting information
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This is way below everyone's level but any help is appreciated! Is my thinking in my notes correct? Is this how enols/enolates/aldols fit together? Also...where do "enones" fit into this?
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HOW TO BECOME 2D ANIMATOR WITH LUIS & ENOL (ANGRY METAL STUDIO)
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Enol Muks
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Is this correct? How is the arrangement of atoms the same if an alpha-H moves onto the O of the C=O to make the enol form?
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y'all enol and enamine mfs better watch your back
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Can anyone plz tell me the reason in "Thione-Thiol Tautomerism in Co +2 complexes" why triethylorthoformate is added to ethanol for solvent?
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Thebacon (dihydrocodeinone enol acetate)

A rare and most definitely obscure find.

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Word of The Hour: tautomerism

tautomerism: the condition, quality, or relation of metameric substances, or their respective derivatives, which are more or less interchangeable, according as one form or the other is the more stable. it is a special case of metamerism

See tree for tautomerism: https://treegledictionary.org/define/tautomerism

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