Esperanto Puns

So, to start with, I have a potentially unorthodox view on revolutions and the conditions they arise from that I should explain to give context to this debate topic. I'm happy to debate this opinion as well, even though it isn't what I had on my mind when I decided to make this thread.

My potentially heretical view though is that, I'm of the opinion that, without a vibrant and distinct culture at odds or at least distinct from the culture of capitalism, statism and mass society, that there is just about zero revolutionary potential in any population. Historically, I think it is only when people have a cultural identity separate from the people and systems that rule over them that they are likely to start standing in opposition to such people and systems -- that, if there is no separate identity, that even in tumultuous and sub-optimal conditions during which revolutions often occur, that a population is very unlikely to revolt.

And I think this is why so many revolutionary movements have been built around persecuted minority populations. Even internationalist and radical revolutionary movements have more often than not occurred in populations in which a distinct culture already in opposition to the culture of the hegemons existed (Catalonia in the 1930's, Koreans and Ukrainians in the 1910's, Kurds and Mayans right now, etc).

I would say that the labor movement and class consciousness was/is an attempt to create somewhat ex nihlo such a distinct cultural identity -- one that would cut across and transcend people's various national, ethnic, and religious identities they were born into, and to bring them together against all of the rulers and systems over them, which have used such traditional identities as a way of re-enforcing hegemony and staving off revolutionary dissent in often mistreated populations.

However, I think the attempt to create such an opposition culture has petered out. I think the attempt had potential, but that all the toxic water under the bridge (the failures, the atrocities, the frustrations, etc) have caused this road towards a distinct culture to reach a dead end.

Yet, creating a distinct culture is still something I think is necessary if we ever want a social event capable of drowning the current world order.

And I think, perhaps, there is hope in esperanto (pun intended). Perhaps if we start forming communities, living our lives, raising our kids, etc using a different language, that the forceful creation of a language

I've heard it's super super easy for English natives to learn, and I feel like it'd be an interesting shift coming from studying a level II language; but at the same time there don't seem to be many speakers, and I since I don't have very much passion in learning it or reason to, I don't see too much purpose; in my mind that would be time wasted from studying a natural language that could.be more useful.

What do you guys think? I'm not going to be switched study languages for a while, but I do definitely plan on learning a third language at some point.

Hi! Vosk open source speech recognition toolkit has just released Esperanto model:

https://alphacephei.com/vosk/models/vosk-model-small-eo-0.22.zip

Recognition error rate on CommonVoice Test is 8.28%

You can try online demo here (Please note it requires Google Chrome):

https://alphacephei.com/demo-eo/

You can also try Vosk on Linux desktop with dictation tool

https://github.com/ideasman42/nerd-dictation

or in Android assistant:

https://github.com/Stypox/dicio-android

About Vosk

Vosk is an offline open source speech recognition toolkit. It enables speech recognition for 20+ languages and dialects - English, Indian English, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese, Russian, Turkish, Vietnamese, Italian, Dutch, Catalan, Arabic, Greek, Farsi, Filipino, Ukrainian, Kazakh, Swedish, Japanese, Esperanto. More to come.

Vosk models are small (50 Mb) but provide continuous large vocabulary transcription, zero-latency response with streaming API, reconfigurable vocabulary and speaker identification.

Speech recognition bindings implemented for various programming languages like Python, Java, Node.JS, C#, C++ and others.

Vosk supplies speech recognition for chatbots, smart home appliances, virtual assistants. It can also create subtitles for movies, transcription for lectures and interviews.

Vosk scales from small devices like Raspberry Pi or Android smartphone to big clusters.

Let us know how it feels!

I want to learn Ido or Esperanto, and I like how Ido takes already easy Esperanto and makes it easier. Resources are very small compared to Esperanto. Do you guys know how fluent Esperanto is compared to Ido, and do you guys also have any free resources, like Duolingo, to learn Ido? I’m in a goal to become a polyglot in uncommon languages. I’m doing it in this order; English, my native language Toki Pona Ido Latin Shoshone/Cherokee I’m excited to join this community! Thank you beforehand!

Zamenhof made mistakes, and pronouns is one of them.

Since Esperanto is supposed to be pronounced in a "pure" manner, you lose much of the clues in nasality of the i sound mi, vi and ni.

Especially without visual clues it makes it hard to differentiate, something that doesn't really happen in English (because of context). Over low-fidelity communication channels with a lot of noise, it is not the end of the word to not being able to differentiate, say n and m in English (and the same goes for most natlangs). After all, natlangs evolved naturally to tackle unexpected issues while constructed languages can't naturally adapt as easily to such issues because that would raise incompatibilities with the other speakers of that language.

And it is not just pronouns. Sometimes mishearing a t for a d means that your dad is an alcoholic instead of just drinking water (mia patro trinkasvs. mia patro drinkas). I first noticed this on Duolingo, and there are whole threads on how using noise-cancelling headphones instead of earbuds or a crappy smartphone can dramatically make hearing these differences much clearer.

This brings me to radio communication, or just chatting on Internet in general. Occasionally I chat in Esperanto on Telegram using voice calls. But since most people use either smartphones or a laptop with a cheap microphone/speaker, it can be tough to differentiate those slight nuance in the sound (especially when audio clips or comes with noise).

Since the telephone did exist when Zamenhof lived, did he ever consider how the language would work under low-fidelity conditions? Have there been attempts to change something in the language to avoid such ambiguities?

(Pardonu pro verkado en la angla; mi ankoraŭ ne sufiĉe fluas en Esperanto.)

Want to conveniently write ĉ ĝ ĥ ĵ ŝ, the Esperanto hat characters? There is a guide on the sidebar, but it is outdated and incomplete. Some of the featured apps are ancient and have serious problems.

I will give my current, 2022 recommendations.

The most convenient method to write hat characters is to use a "Text Expander". You can write ";c" in any app and it instantly becomes "ĉ".

On Mac, this functionality is built-in. Go to:

System Preferences > Keyboard > Text Replacement

And input all of your text expansions, such as ";c" to "ĉ".

On Windows, you'll have to install a text expansion app. Thankfully, in 2022, we have a couple of free, open source apps to choose from. The best are Espanso and Beeftext.

Espanso seems to be a little more established, so it's the one I will recommend.

First, install Espanso here: https://espanso.org/

Next configure Espanso by doing the following:

1. Open Run: [⊞ Win]+[r]

2. Type in %appdata% and hit enter.

3. Navigate to the "espanso" folder.

4. Open "default.yml" in a text editor.

Now, alter the contents of "default.yml" to be the following:

matches:
  - trigger: ";c"
    replace: "ĉ"
  - trigger: ";C"
    replace: "Ĉ"
  - trigger: ";g"
    replace: "ĝ"
  - trigger: ";G"
    replace: "Ĝ"
  - trigger: ";h"
    replace: "ĥ"
  - trigger: ";H"
    replace: "Ĥ"
  - trigger: ";j"
    replace: "ĵ"
  - trigger: ";J"
    replace: "Ĵ"
  - trigger: ";s"
    replace: "ŝ"
  - trigger: ";S"
    replace: "Ŝ"
  - trigger: ";u"
    replace: "ŭ"
  - trigger: ";U"
    replace: "Ŭ"

Save the file, and that will do it!

Hi everyone

I am writing a novel and one of the characters sings a song in Esperanto to console the main character. I am still writing the song but I thought of the following line for the lyrics:

"We don't choose the cards we are dealt, only how we play our hand."

With a little help from Google, I translated:

"Ni ne elektas la kartojn kiujn ni traktas, nur kiel ni ludas nian manon."

I realized, I couldn't be sure that "hand" would translate to "mano" as it didn't refer to a bodypart.

Another part of the song: "Cxiuj bezonas sxultron por plori. Mi ne povas preni vian doloron sed mi povas esti vian monton."

I wasn't sure whether I would be correct to say "Ni cxiuj bezonas ..." as in "We all need ..."

It means "I blessed a banana"

A few things about me: I (27m) mostly learn languages for travel and I really like Duolingo. I am a native English speaker, I previously lived in China for four years as an ESL teacher, and I speak Mandarin pretty fluently. I'm currently learning Cantonese through Mandarin on Duolingo and I really enjoy being able to work on two different languages at the same time. The Cantonese course on Duolingo is very short and my goal is to do a crown everyday until I finish it in early April.

I want to move back to China ASAP, but travel restrictions are making that a challenge. It doesn't look like the pandemic is going to end anytime soon and that China won't be opening it's borders until the pandemic is over. With that in mind, I'm considering becoming an expat in another country around September 2022.

Complete immersion and casually learning a little everyday on Duolingo has been the only language learning strategies that I have found that work for me.

My question is, which language offered for Chinese speakers on Duolingo should I tackle once I finish the Cantonese course?

JAPANESE: This is a language I want to learn to fluency at some point in my life. I have never studied this language and I have never been to Japan. Of course, Japanese culture and history are a big draw for many language learners and I am particularly interested in East Asia. I already read Chinese, so learning Kanji would be very easy and interesting for me. Japan of course offers a lot for travelers even if it's an expensive place to live and travel. I am considering applying for JET and I think I would likely get it considering my previous work experience as an ESL teacher. My only hesitation is that later in my life/career I'll probably want to live in Japan for a few years, and I'll be more motivated to learn Japan then, where as now I want to return to China ASAP.

KOREAN: This is a language I might not learn to fluency but one that has interested me more and more recently. I see two ways learning this language could benefit my career and personal goals. First, I am considering applying for EPIK (similar to JET) for September. Second, I have a deep interest in North Korea and many of the tour companies that take people to North Korea are run by expats in China. This is a job I'd love to try after the pandemic. South Korea is great too. I lived there for three months one summer as an exchange student and I studied a little of the language. I studied Korean history and culture e

Has anyone translated Disney’s new banger of a song into Esperanto? If not then take this google translated lyric as inspiration and hopefully make an official one.

Ni ne parolas pri Bruno-no-no-no Ni ne parolas pri Bruno Sed!

Dum mia geedziĝo (Dum nia geedziĝo)

Ni prepariĝis kaj la ĉielo ne havis nubojn (Ne povis vidi nubojn)

Li alvenis ridetante malice- (TONDRO!!)

Vi povas diri al ŝi vi mem! (Pardonu, mi vida, daŭrigu)

Pluvo, li diris al mi (kion li implicis?) Mia cerbo konfuziĝis (Pluvis kaj ŝtormis!) En ŝtormo mi edziĝis (Estis bela tago, sed ĉiuokaze!)

Ni ne parolas pri Bruno-no-no-no Ni ne parolas pri Bruno

Hej, Mi ĉiam timas kion li diros poste Li ĉiam parolas tre trankvile Li sonas kiel sablo en horloĝo ch ch ch

Ĉiam devas esti malfacile por li liajn viziojn, neniu povas kompreni Ĉiuj provis, eĉ nia avino havas demandojn?

timiga korpo, ratoj li portis se vi vokas lin, ĉiuj paliĝis Yeah, li scias kie ajn vi kaŝis

Ni ne parolas pri Bruno-no-no-no Ni ne parolas pri Bruno

Li diris, ke mia fiŝo mortos, tiam ĝi mortis! Li diris "Mi aspektis dika" kaj tiam mi faris! Li diris "Vi kalviĝos" tiam miaj haroj defalis! danĝero estas ĉio, kion li alportis

Li diris, ke ĉiuj miaj deziroj iam venos al mi. Li diris, ke miaj potencoj kreskos kiel vito, kiu floris.

Hej! Mariano venas nun! Li diris, ke mia vera amo estos proksima, sed fianĉigita al alia!

Ĉu tio estas li?

Hej vi, ĉu vi povas silenti por mi.

Mi povas aŭdi lin!

Ho bruno, pri tio Bruno Ho, Mi tre volas scii pri bruno La vero, La tuta vero, Bruno!

Isbella! Li estas proksima! al la tablo!

(Everyone’s part all at once)

Li estas ĉi tie! Neniam menciu Brunon! Kial mi parolis pri bruno? Neniuj vortoj pri Bruno! Mi neniam devus mencii Brunooooon!

(End)

Edif: formats a bit fucked bcs of mobile

Mi volas ke mia 11 yara filino esti ekscitita pri esperanto. Shi shatas Tiktok, Amongst us, Roblox, ja pasigas multe tempo en sua lertafono.

Kio rimedoj vi rekomendas?

Dankon amikoj.

I'm a native speaker of English who is looking for a speaker of Esperanto. Mi estas denaska parolanto de la angla kiu sercxas parolanton de Esperanto. I am a 78-year-old who lives in the USA. Mi estas 78-jaragxa viro kiu logas en Usono. I have varied interests, including world affairs, nature and the environment, mystery novels, crafts, spiritual life....we live in a fascinating world. Mi haas diversajn interesojn kiuj inkludas mondajn aferojn, naturon kaj la naturmedion, misteri-romanojn, manmetiajxojn, la spiritan vivon...ni vivas en interesoplenega mondo. I am willing to correspond throught the Internet or by postal mail. Mi volonte korespondos rete aw paperposxte.

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