Did Leonard Lake and Charles Ng actually film the most brutal of their crimes and does the footage really exist?

When reading about the duo and their crimes it is often mentioned that they filmed their horrible acts. There is footage available of them "interviewing" their victims, stripping them, tying them down and such, which is bad enough as it is. But it is often said that there is footage of them brutally torturing and killing them. However while researching I haven't really found much credible info on that claim. During the trial of Ng from what I've heard they only had circumstantial evidence on him, but if they had footage of him and Lake directly killing, raping and horribly torturing their victims, wouldn't that be used? So what is the case, what kind of footage really does exist?

It's just something that confuses me and it would be nice to get it cleared up.

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Happy Birthday Charles Ng.

Charles Ng is 61 years young today. You donโ€™t know what he brings to Christmas.

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Wilseyville is notorious for being the location of the cabin where serial killers Leonard Lake and Charles Ng killed and disposed of some of their victims. Their spree ended in June 1985, when Ng was spotted loading stolen merchandise into a car driven by Lake in South San Francisco. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilโ€ฆ
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Serial killer Charles Ng's 1982 mugshot
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Alongside his partner Leonard Lake, infamous serial killer Charles Ng had killed and tortured a dozen or more men, women and children over the span of one year. The whole terrible affair is a tale of fate and chance.
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Have the police ever released the names of all 25 possible victims of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng? If they have released them, where can I find them? I can only find 17.

I understand that due to the amount of bone fragments unearthed from the Lake's property, and the personal effects found in a buried plastic drum, that the police suspect they killed 25 people. Who are the other 8? I'll list the 17 that I have found below:

3 members of the Dubs family (Harvey, Deborah, and Sean)
3 members of the Bond family: Lonnie, Brenda and Lonnie Bond, Jr.
Charles Gunnar
Randy Johnson
Michael Carroll
Kathleen Allen
Robin Stapley
Donald Lake
Jeffrey Askren
Donald Giulietti
Paul Cosner
Clifford Parenteau
Jeff Gerald

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Charles Ng Evading Capture

Does anyone know any details on how Charles Ng was able to enter Canada on a commercial bus that went through Canadian Customs while he was on our 10 most wanted? Canada would have known about him because they also actively watch for US fugitives trying to enter their country. I realize it isn't the toughest security to get through but I've always wondered how that played out when he crossed.

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Infamous Killer Quote "You can cry and stuff like the rest of them, but it won't do you no good. We are pretty, ha, coldhearted, so to speak." _ serial killer Charles Ng while cutting away at Brenda O'Connor's red and white raglan with a knife.
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Any link to Charles Ngโ€™s actual voice?

And did he really sound like that? I heard they play a recording but it was a while since I listened. Anyone got an Audio of Ngโ€™s voice?

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The Capture of Serial Killer Charles Ng youtu.be/2jsrjF7AomI
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Ok but why did I read this in Henryโ€™s Charles Ng voice...
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Thrill Killers: Leonard Lake & Charles Ng (19990 [00:25:55] youtube.com/watch?v=FDnVvโ€ฆ
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Saw this and thought of Charles Ng
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A 1997 CBS KPHO-TV segment covering the trial of serial killer Charles Ng two years before being sentenced to death in 1999. youtube.com/watch?v=-oP8rโ€ฆ
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An interesting 2014 Guardian article with interviews with defense attorneys for some of the most notorious murderers including Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Jon Venables, and Charles Ng. theguardian.com/law/2014/โ€ฆ
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Leonard Lake & Charles Ng's Wilseysville, Ca Compound (Exterior Drive) youtu.be/7iJonk-aKxQ
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Mugshot of Charles Ng (Leonard Tate partner in crime) when he was arrested.
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Charles Ng & Leonard Lake

I live 20 mins from the cabin where the murders took place, if anyone can leave articles or send articles/videos about the murders I would be much Appreciative, I plan on going near the cabin/property soon as well to record the land and house just to see

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Charles Ng, serial killer, accomplice of Leonard Lake. On one of the murder tapes,โ€ Charles Ng is seen telling victim Brenda O'Connor, as he cuts her shirt off with a knife, "You can cry and stuff, like the rest of them, but it won't do any good. We are pretty ... cold-hearted, so to speak." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaโ€ฆ
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Leonard Lake and Charles Ngโ€™s victim Brenda Oโ€™Connor pictured with her son Lonnie Bond, Jr. though his face is blurred. This was from an episode of the Oxygen documentary It Takes a Killer.
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What would anyone's reaction be if David Fincher were to make a movie about Leonard Lake and Charles Ng one day?

I wonder what book he would likely use for possible source material? But I don't even know how he would handle watching the videotapes?

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Comments in r/serialkillers led me to look up Last Podcast On The Left. Charles Ng is a murderer whose actions ruined lives but normalising โ€œengrishโ€ (read: racist impersonations) for comedy should be highly criticised. What do you think? reddit.com/gallery/mxfx0n
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Moving here. Gonna get Charles Ng to move my furniture.
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A 1992 Inside Edition segment on serial killer Charles Ng. Which this has an interview of his cellmates. Bill O'Reilly is at the beginning and end. youtube.com/watch?v=1sDmWโ€ฆ
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This terrifying excerpt from Don Lasseterโ€™s โ€œDie For Me: The Terrifying Story of Charles Ng/Leonard Lake Torture Murdersโ€ gave me chills. I was not aware that such an image of Brenda O'Connor existed.
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Read in Henryโ€™s Charles NG accent.
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Charles Ng, is that you? v.redd.it/4qavse1n2wh61
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Leonard Lake & Charles Ng's Wilseysville, Ca Compound (Exterior Drive) youtu.be/7iJonk-aKxQ
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I can just hear Henry's Charles Ng voice in my head lol reddit.com/r/serialkillerโ€ฆ
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An interesting 2014 Guardian article with interviews with defense attorneys for some of the most notorious murderers including Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Jon Venables, and Charles Ng. theguardian.com/law/2014/โ€ฆ
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Found outside Lenard Lake and Charles Ngโ€™s cabin
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In 1982 Leonard Lake met a man from Hong Kong named Charles Ng. The two struck up a friendship. Lake and Ng took up residence at the ranch and together they began abducting, torturing, raping and killing people. Most of their victims were people they knew.
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Charles Ng testifies in court, 1999
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Latest photo of charles ng
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Dunno if it was used as a bookmark, but the front and back of a bible study invite, found in a book based on serial killers Leonard lake and Charles Ng.
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Charles Ng has been at it again. Still, could have been worse for the kid...
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This terrifying excerpt from Don Lasseterโ€™s โ€œDie For Me: The Terrifying Story of Charles Ng/Leonard Lake Torture Murdersโ€ gave me chills. I was not aware that such an image of Brenda O'Connor existed.
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One of my favorite moments on the show - Charles Ng describes his art and spells Leonard's name streamable.com/yue5o
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Meet Charles Ng, a serial killer who drew cartoons of his victims on the wall of his prison cell which prosecutors used during his trial en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cโ€ฆ
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Leonard Lake and Charles Ngโ€™s victim Brenda Oโ€™Connor pictured with her son Lonnie Bond, Jr. though his face is blurred.
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Enneagram of Evil Minds: 7w6 Charles Ng
  • Warning: This posts deals with dark themes like sexual assault, torture, infanticide, and of course murder. Please, be advised.

Surprising enough, this was the hardest subtype to find a serial killer for (even harder than 9w1). Not to say that 7w6s donโ€™t commit murder, but it seems they do rarely in series (more often to be one time killers or spree killers). Well, the one I did find was absolutely awful. There are few murder cases I stray from being interested in, but this one had even me apprehensive to research. The serial killer I believe is a 7w6 is Charles Ng aka half of โ€œthe Miranda Murderersโ€. Ng and his partner Leonard Lake killed a confirmed 11 victims, though are estimated to have killed around 25 from 1983-1985. Their MO was to capture people (sometimes whole families), bring them to their murder cabinโ€™s sex dungeon, kill the husbands and children (often babies), brutally rape and torture the women while filming, and murder them in a variety of ways.

So what inclines me to think this monster is a 7? From an early age, Ng was shown to be an active boy who was uninterested in sitting still or focusing. In grade school, he performed poorly which sadly led his overly strict father to physically abuse him. Ng was interested in things like martial arts and military history and weaponry. The reason for this interest seemed to be nothing besides thinking it was cool. He even forged his way into the US Marines. He did this, because he thought killing people and using guns was cool. Ng was discharged from the military for stealing weapons. Stealing and shoplifting was a near compulsive problem Ng had due to a poor lack of impulse control. Ng also was into other things like Molotov cocktails, arson, fighting, and writing sexually explicit notes to a teacher. Unfortunately, he met his match made in hell in the form of Leonard Lake. Already a paranoid survivalist, rapist, and murder, Lake shared a fascination with the military, weaponry, and survivalist living with Ng. He at some point showed Ng his amateur BDSM pornography, as Lake did frequently to people (an odd fact corroborated by many who knew him), and told him of his plan called โ€œThe Miranda Projectโ€. This was influenced by the book โ€œThe Collectorโ€ by John Fowles. Lake owned a cabin to use for surviving the apocalypse, which Lake thought was coming soon. That cabin doubled as a place to hide a โ€œtorture dungeonโ€. See, the other half of โ€œThe Miranda Projectโ€ was for Lake to capture a woman( or

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A 1997 CBS KPHO-TV segment covering the trial of serial killer Charles Ng two years before being sentenced to death in 1999. youtube.com/watch?v=-oP8rโ€ฆ
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I'M A FOSTER MOMMY!! Meet Leonard Lake and Charles Ng
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Leonard Lake and Charles Ng criminalminds.fandom.com/โ€ฆ
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Latest mugshot of Charles Ng
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TIL about serial killers Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, who besides killing friends, coworkers and relatives, would target and murder entire families. They'd kill the men and children first, while keeping the women as slaves in their bunker until they were murdered or died of their injuries. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leoโ€ฆ
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