What a bunch of morons attempting to assert their supposed authority over 2000 years of Christianity like a small little yappy dog pissing to mark his territory. Theyโ€™ll all get emotionally worked up in their delusional state of make believe thinking that their real apostles... reddit.com/r/exmormon/comโ€ฆ
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Jesus claimed he would return within the lifetime of the Apostles, and they believed him. The Apostles all died and Jesus never returned. Therefore Christianity should have been discarded.

There are multiple times in which Jesus said his disciples would not taste death and would still be alive when the "Second Coming would occur. What's more, the disciples believed it, using such phrases as "then we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord", as well as Paul warning believers that they in should not marry, because Jesus was coming back soon. Even in Revelation, John claimed he had a vision from Jesus saying he was coming soon.

The Apostles all died with no return. 2000 years later there has been no return. Jesus lied, or only thought he would return but didn't know. Therefore, Christianity should have faded away then and there, and if it weren't for the Romans enforcing it it might have gone the way of the Greek and Egyptian stories: myths that were once seen as religious truth.

EDIT: By "discarded" I mean "as a widespread belief of faith" not "as something that was historically present". More along the lines of how we view the mythologies of the Mayans, Greeks, Ancient Romans, etc.

EDIT 2: Have a lot of passages:

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. โ€œLearn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35)

"There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.โ€ (Matthew 16:28)

"Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Mark 13:30-31)

"He also said to them, โ€œAmen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power.โ€ (Mark 9:1)

"Peter turned and saw

... keep reading on reddit โžก

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So Christianity has origins of the writings like the Apostles. What are the origins of some of the older religions (ie: where did greek mythology come from?)

Please link me to an already answered question. That would be awesome.

but to expand, I've always been a big fan of philosophy and greek mythology for decades. Also currently playing AC: Odyssey (where I got to meet fucking Euripides); and I've like what they've done so far.

But it led me to a thought of... There are the followers of the deity in Christianity, and they are the ones that told and wrote the story.

Same with many other religions (I site Christianity because its big one from where I live) also, in that sect has Judaism and the Quran (It's basically a trilogy of religion)

So outside that big trilogy, the greek gods.. is it ever explained how that religion got that big?

Where is the start of it?

Or is it so lost in history, we only know of it because of playwrites and such?

Edit: follow up, I know the trilogy has roots in Wicca, but where does it start? Is there a historical record of it?

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Apostle D. Todd Christofferson's fantastic public critique of the God worshiped by "much of modern Christianity" and how we can believe differently [60 seconds to read]

>Sadly, much of modern Christianity does not acknowledge that God makes any real demands on those who believe in Him, seeing Him rather as a butler โ€œwho meets their needs when summonedโ€ or a therapist whose role is to help people โ€œfeel good about themselves.โ€ It is a religious outlook that โ€œmakes no pretense at changing lives.โ€ โ€œBy contrast,โ€ as one author declares, โ€œthe God portrayed in both the Hebrew and Christian Scriptures asks, not just for commitment, but for our very lives. The God of the Bible traffics in life and death, not niceness, and calls for sacrificial love, not benign whatever-ism.โ€

>I would like to speak of one particular attitude and practice we need to adopt if we are to meet our Heavenly Fatherโ€™s high expectations. It is this: willingly to accept and even seek correction.

From the October 2011 General Conference: http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2011/04/as-many-as-i-love-i-rebuke-and-chasten?lang=eng

[To be clear, I'm sure his criticism includes some Latter-day Saints--this isn't an attack on other Christians but rather a critique of a certain type of thinking.]

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Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (๏ทบ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."

Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (๏ทบ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."

ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุงู„ู’ุญูู…ูŽูŠู’ุฏููŠู‘ูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุณููู’ูŠูŽุงู†ูุŒ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุณูŽู…ูุนู’ุชู ุงู„ุฒู‘ูู‡ู’ุฑููŠู‘ูŽุŒ ูŠูŽู‚ููˆู„ู ุฃูŽุฎู’ุจูŽุฑูŽู†ููŠ ุนูุจูŽูŠู’ุฏู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุจู’ู†ู ุนูŽุจู’ุฏู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูุŒ ุนูŽู†ู ุงุจู’ู†ู ุนูŽุจู‘ูŽุงุณูุŒ ุณูŽู…ูุนูŽ ุนูู…ูŽุฑูŽ ู€ ุฑุถู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู†ู‡ ู€ ูŠูŽู‚ููˆู„ู ุนูŽู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู…ูู†ู’ุจูŽุฑู ุณูŽู…ูุนู’ุชู ุงู„ู†ู‘ูŽุจููŠู‘ูŽ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ูŠูŽู‚ููˆู„ู โ€ "โ€ ู„ุงูŽ ุชูุทู’ุฑููˆู†ููŠ ูƒูŽู…ูŽุง ุฃูŽุทู’ุฑูŽุชู ุงู„ู†ู‘ูŽุตูŽุงุฑูŽู‰ ุงุจู’ู†ูŽ ู…ูŽุฑู’ูŠูŽู…ูŽุŒ ููŽุฅูู†ู‘ูŽู…ูŽุง ุฃูŽู†ูŽุง ุนูŽุจู’ุฏูู‡ูุŒ ููŽู‚ููˆู„ููˆุง ุนูŽุจู’ุฏู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ูˆูŽุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูู‡ู โ€"โ€โ€.โ€ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3445 In-book reference : Book 60, Hadith 115 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 4, Book 55, Hadith 654 (deprecated numbering scheme)

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What was the reaction of the Portuguese when they found out that there were Christians in India that used Syriac as liturgical language and claimed that were founded by Saint Thomas, the Apostle?
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Christian Apostle Claims He Stopped a Plane Crash by Praying in Tongues friendlyatheist.patheos.cโ€ฆ
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Christian Apostle Claims He Stopped a Plane Crash by Praying in Tongues friendlyatheist.patheos.cโ€ฆ
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TIL about Prester John, a legendary king said to rule over a Christian nation lost amid the Muslims and Pagan of the Orient. The legend may have originated from stories of Thomas the Apostle's evangelistic success in India and eventually Portuguese explorers believed they had found him in Ethiopia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preโ€ฆ
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/u/terminus-trantor responds to: What was the reaction of the Portuguese when they found out that there were Christians in India that used Syriac as liturgical language and claimed that were founded by Saint Thomas, the Apostle? [+37] np.reddit.com/r/AskHistorโ€ฆ
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I nearly went all Crusader-y on this one Bus "Preacher" tonight who called the Church evil. Protestants need to understand that Martin Luther wasn't the first Christian. Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church and the Holy Spirit has flowed through it since the days of the Apostles to now.
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TIL of the 1919 Third World's Christian Leadership Conference in Pittsburgh, PA USA - attended by an LDS Apostle - where Mormonism is examined none too favorably... books.google.com/books?idโ€ฆ
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How does a Christian respond to skepticism on the grounds that Jesus and Apostles were wrong about end-times?

Jesus and his followers talked about the end-times happening during their generation. It didn't come to pass. How do Christians respond to skepticism on the grounds that Jesus and Apostles were wrong?

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What Happened to the Apostles of Jesus? YouTuber Paulogia examines the historical evidence behind the alleged martyrdom of the Apostles and early Christians. youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4w4โ€ฆ
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TIL the Inverted Cross, used in horror films as part of their imagery, especially if the film involves demonic themes, was originally associated with the martyrdom of St Peter the Apostle. He requested that his cross be upside down, as he felt unworthy of being crucified in the same manner as Jesus. wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_โ€ฆ
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Cryptographer says that Apostle Paul acknowledged that homosexuality does not prevent Christians from going to heaven goddiscussion.com/85794/cโ€ฆ
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[WP] You are a Christian priest about to give your Sunday sermon, but the religion has been completely changed by a time traveling trickster, who made Jesus and his apostles switch places with people of 21st century pop culture.
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Kor Phaeron, Erebus and the rest of the Dark Council of the Word Bearers decide to bear the Word to ancient Terra's past. They hold a dark ritual and send a Dark Apostle to the current year. He arrives in a major city in the West. Does he succeed in converting Earth to Chaos?

How quickly will authorities react to a giant dude in power armor preaching in the streets?

Does he get zerged by police and armed forces?

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[M20] Card Kingdom Preview Cards: Apostle of Purifying Light, Gods Willing (Imgur in comments) blog.cardkingdom.com/puriโ€ฆ
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A category 5 hurricane spawned, and my apostle happened to be directly in the eye of the storm.
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The Twelve Apostles. Took advantage of the dip in tourism to admire the natural wonders in our own back yard.
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Latter-day Saint apostle warns BYU employees against sowing seeds of doubt in students.
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Floss at the Twelve Apostles in Australia!
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Confession: As a TBM I was dismissive of environmental issues. I figured if it was really an important issue, we would hear about it in conference from the prophet and apostles. The 2nd coming is near, and the earth will be "restored to its paradisaical glory". Sorry. I got some repenting to do
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Bringing poor women from Europe to an inescapable desert in order to married off to old men. Today that would be called sex trafficking. I remember reading a quote from one of the apostles along the lines to make sure that the missionaries leave the good ones for them.

Bringing poor women from Europe to an inescapable desert in order to be married off to old men. Stupid typo.

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Said today in General Conference by an apostle about us: โ€œโ€œSincerely rejoice with them in their successes,โ€ he said. โ€œBe their friends and look for the good in them. We should never give up on them but preserve our relationships. Never reject or misjudge them. Just love them!โ€โ€

Iโ€™m very happy that this was said in General Conference today:

โ€œWith millions watching and listening via broadcasts...Elder Ulisses Soares of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles told 20,000 people in the Conference Center....that some church members may be experiencing sadness, agony and regret over loved ones who distance themselves from faith, but he encouraged members to love, embrace and pray for them.โ€

โ€œSincerely rejoice with them in their successes,โ€ he said. โ€œBe their friends and look for the good in them. We should never give up on them but preserve our relationships. Never reject or misjudge them. Just love them!โ€

To be clear, it probably shouldnโ€™t need to be said. But Iโ€™m still very glad that it was said.

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With conference on the horizon and the Mormon Church focusing on rebranding. Here's a reminder that God's chosen apostle told victims of sexual abuse "At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse." More in the Comments. v.redd.it/5c5b6op88wn21
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This reel from Morgan is terrifying - this sounds like a severe mental illness, not normal Christianity. Morgan you deserve real health care and you deserve to know that the thoughts in your head are yours. Re-posted with properly archived link (sorry!!). web.archive.org/web/20210โ€ฆ
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