I’ve had some super shitty past few years and have crippling insomnia now. I take 20 mg d amphetamine for ADHD but insomnia occurred prior and it hasn’t seem to effect it.
I’ve tried zolpidem, zopiclone, and trazodone. Trazodone works best out of all of them but I can’t fall asleep. The z drugs do nothing. I feel their effects, but it’s almost like they make my brain louder. And even if I take more, it doesn’t work. Zolpidem was absolute worst. I have never used a GABAergic prior to trialing zolpidem/zopiclone and neither worked from the start. Cannabis doesn’t even make me tired.
Trazodone benefits me in other ways so I want to stay on it but was thinking of a short acting benzo to get to sleep… but with my lack of response to z drugs would be trying a benzo even worth it?
I took 5 mg OTD zolpidem 4x last night and felt barely anything. Took a trazodone and finally got to bed. Does anyone know the possible pharmacology or mechanism as to why they wouldn’t work on someone? I need something that knocks me tf out.
Lyrica and Ambien are some of my all time favorite substances, And I've always wanted to try some of their legal analogs, However I've never had any luck finding these available for sale, Not asking for a source, but I am asking for a friendly point in the general direction, thank you.
Was taking zolpidem and got prescribed zopiclone due to insomnia. Will there be cross tolerance as I had been taking ambien for almost a month now 12.5mg CR
The ones on the market are zopiclone (Imovane) and its isolated (S) enantiomer, eszopiclone (Lunesta), along with zolpidem (Ambien), and zaleplon (Sonata).
Zolpidem and zaleplon have quite a kick to them if you use alternate routes of administration. Most noticably IV zolpidem is a intense rush and very different from other ROA's. They have super short half lives though so you better get into bed right after taking it. Another issue I have with zolpidem and zaleplon is they are only selective for the sedative a1 benzodiazepine receptors in the brain leaving out a2 muscle relaxation in the spine and anxiety relief like true benzodiazepines.
That's where zopiclone/eszopiclone shines. It's non-selective like benzodiazepines making it feel like Valium or Xanax. Its half live is much more reasonable at 6 hours too. Downsides being it makes water have a metallic taste and some other foods too, and it lacks the rush that zolpidem and zaleplon can have if you abuse them by snorting, plugging, or shooting.
Eszopiclone is the winner being closest to traditional benzodiazepines. I want some muscle relaxation and anxiety relief along with the sedation when I try to sleep, and I have a couple hours to chill and enjoy it before I have to go to bed.
Having had experience with all three, zolpidem and zaleplon can cause one to be quite fiendish due to their kick and ultra short durations. As far as pleasure goes IV zolpidem was the best but it only lasted like 15-20 min.
Bem, boa madrugada, alguém por aqui sabe alguma forma de droppar zolpidem que possua mais eficiência para trip psicodélica?
Atualmente só consegui uma única vez ter algo de um nível satisfatório, com 30mg triturados e redosando até o final da noite, contabilizando 60 ou 70mg no total, mas em outras dezenas de vezes que tentei eu apenas senti algo muito leve, ou fiquei travado e apaguei sem nem curtir, semelhante a embriaguez. Já houve vezes que tomei 50mg e não senti nada, e outros de tomar 30mg dar uma travada e logo apagar, e ter amnésia fodida depois sobre o que fiz sob efeito.
Agradeço se tiverem dicas sobre dosagem, forma de ingestão, etc.
hello all. in the past ive tried trazodone and once seroquel but both of them dont work well enough to put me asleep 60% of the time unless i take a lot of them. which leads to side effects like feeling sleepy even up to 6 hours after ive woken up from a full sleep. feeling nauseous during and after taking it. and mostly just blunted emotions. ive also recreationally tried clonazepam in order to sleep. it worked perfectly in around 30 mins i felt like it was a naturally occuring sleep and i didnt wake up in the middle of the night either. woke up with 0 side effects as well. (clonazepam doses ranging from 0.5mgs to 1.5 depending on the situation.) at times i stay up for 3 days on end trying to wear myself out of energy to make myself sleep but it just doesnt work. ive heard of lunesta and ambien but i want something i can use longterm. im considering asking about lunesta since trazodone is pretty much shit for me. (insomnia for 3+ years on end now)
do any of you consistently use prescribed sleep aids? if so do lunesta and ambien have worse side effects?
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I know it's a Z-drug but there is so much conflicting info on the internet about the effects. I am fully aware of the amnesia and doing stupid shit so I am super wary of taking them. My doc has given me a few as I struggle sleeping at the moment and have anxiety, he said they will help me sleep but are for short term use only as they have been discovered to be addictive. But some people say they also help with anxiety similar to regular benzos but how true is this? Whereas some say they do not.
The only reason I ask is that it would be awesome if they will get rid of my anxiety in the evening before bed (not just in a sedative way, but anxiolytic too).
Hab vorgestern 1mg Eszopiclone von meiner Ärztin bekommen und das Zeug wirkt nicht. Hätte deswegen allgemein mal ein paar Fragen an jemanden der auch sowas in der Richtung verschrieben bekommt.
Has anyone been through the process of quitting a z drug used for sleep or recreational purposes?
I have been on 3 mg lunesta for a few years, and need some advice on quitting.
Need motivation too, succes stories, trials, attempts, or even benzo stories are welcome.
Thank you in adv
I've read that even <18 pills of zolpidem a year causes a 3.7 fold increase in cancers. That's insane to me - there are people out there taking 18 pills a week. Alcohol is so deeply ingrained in western culture that no-one thinks twice about somebody who gets wasted every weekend or drinks beer or wine on a daily basis. I can't help but think low-moderate life long benzo usage would be worse for you than low-moderate alcohol consumption.
I'm 20F, diagnosed with fibromyalgia, insomnia, ADHD and c-ptsd. I take vyvanse 50mg for treating ADHD and fatigue.
I noticed that when I use vyvanse I find it way more difficult to fall and stay asleep, even though I take it in 4-5am and I go to sleep around 10pm. I tried lowering the dose but I had no effect.
The only meds that help me sleep on vyvanse are ambien and zopiclone. how likely is it to build tolerance to them if I use them 4 times a week?
Also, I've already tried using melatonin, trazdone, seroquel, amitriptyline and cbd. But they don't do much if I take vyvanse in the morning. So I'd also like to get new suggestions if you have some.
Thanks in advice
So yesterday had some fun with dex-amph, probably around 100 mg spread out between 5pm and 11pm. I thought with landing gear I would definitely be able to sleep by 6am ish.
Landing gear was:
- 3 x 7.5mg Zopiclone
- 1 x 1.25mg Xanax
- NAC, Lithium Orotate, Magnesium, Vit C, Melatonin
I thought for sure this would knock me out but I remained awake the entire night and through the next day till right now.
I have experience with Benzos but this was my first time taking a Z-drug. I presumed they would have a compounding effect because they act upon the same receptor, but do they cancel each other out in some way? Or was it just the fact that I had too much upper and not enough downer.
What are the relative strengths in terms of sleep inducement of Benzos and Z-Drugs and can anyone recommend alternative landing gear? I know Seroquel or any antipsychotic is most ideal but they're not available where I am.
I saw a fasion love Vlad tv interview was funny asl he said Jay z was eating chips while his mans was really selling that white and it got me thinking was Jay z really outside like that??😂
