[PS4] H: Found a cane W: An aristocrat to never struggle walking or beating subornation into their employees again. Maybe a share of cap wealth as a reward :) reddit.com/gallery/s2bro2
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Georgia DA Indicted on charges of Bribery and Subornation of Perjury lawandcrime.com/crime/geo…
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In regards to understanding Trump's way of communicating, do the comments by Michael Cohen in his testimony to the House Oversight Committee meet the legal definition of subornation of perjury by the President?

On Wednesday, Michael Cohen testified in front of the House Oversight Committee.

In Cohen's opening statement (PDF warning), he made direct reference to Donald Trump communicating to him to lie to Congress, however notes it was not a direct order:

> Mr. Trump did not directly tell me to lie to Congress. That’s not how he operates.

> ...

> And so I lied about it, too – because Mr. Trump had made clear to me, through his personal statements to me that we both knew were false and through his lies to the country, that he wanted me to lie. And he made it clear to me because his personal attorneys reviewed my statement before I gave it to Congress.


I'm confused by Cohen's comments and how this mixes with what the Special Counsel has said.

BuzzFeed News put out a report earlier this year that Cohen had been "directed" by Trump to lie to congress. This would seem like obvious subornation of perjury for the President, but then the Special Counsel put out a statement disputing this.

With Cohen's testimony, he affirms the idea that it was not a direct order, but also says he clearly understood what Trump wanted.

Does this constitute 18 U.S. Code Β§ 1622, subornation of perjury for the President?

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Subornation of perjury (U.S. Department of Justice website):
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Subornation of perjury?

Back when everyone was wondering why Adnan didn't take the stand in his defense, I was interested to learn that defense attorneys often don't put their clients on the stand not only for strategic reasons (they will get destroyed on cross), but also that putting a client they know to be guilty on the stand to lie opens the attorney up to subornation of perjury issues. The idea was that if Adnan had confessed to CG, then she legally (ethically?) couldn't have put him on the stand to deny his guilt.

Given the excellent analysis by Susan Simpson on her blog regarding Jay's "timeline" and his problems as a witness, and the fact that we all feel that whatever happened that day, large pieces of Jay's story are simply not true, is the prosecution dancing close to subornation of perjury?

I am not a lawyer, so I am interested in the legal community's view on this paradox. It seems that everyone acknowledges that many people lie in courtrooms--almost by its very nature; prosecution and defense can't really completely agree on the facts at hand. And people seem to dismiss lying as "shading" or "trying to minimize participation" or what have you. Not that big a deal.

  • We know that Jay lied repeatedly to the police about everything that happened that day, and admitted doing so.

  • An even cursory read over Jay's statements begins to expose contradictions and problems.

  • The cell-tower tests the prosecution ran didn't match Jay's story (and yes, even though today we realize how problematic this type of analysis is, I am led to believe that at the time of the trial it had not been discredited), but the prosecution simply omitted this information.

*Jay's testimony (according to SK) was much more polished in trial #2 than trial #1-- someone worked with him?

So if the prosecutor is given a witness like Jay, who is clearly not completely forthcoming, what are the legal implications for subornation of perjury? Can the prosecutor really just say "I wasn't there, so hey, what do I know?" and put Jay on the stand? Can a prosecutor find Jay's story "true enough" if not all true?

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1752. Subornation Of Perjury | JM justice.gov/jm/criminal-r…
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Dubiosity - Subornation Of Perjury [PRRUKBLK018] youtube.com/watch?v=OUMk5…
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Player is Suborned by his Own Doppelganger
  • Be me, GameMaster.
  • Be running DnD 5th ed for 4 people, a Ranger, a Druid, a Cleric, and a Wizard.
  • They enter a dungeon of magic crystal. Whole place is a magical landscape, specifically a Mirror Zone from Tasha's.
  • 30 minutes in and they have their first phenomena.
  • Roll a 94 on the table, a duplicate of the Ranger just pops out of the wall.
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  • DoppelRanger starts going whole hog trying to kill Ranger. Rest of the party stays back.
  • Epic arrow duel ensues
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  • Druid jumps in, ruins the awesome
  • Druid restrains DoppelRanger with magic, begs for him to stop.
  • Druid and Ranger are a couple irl and in game. Druid makes the argument that, since her and Ranger are an item and DoppelRanger is an exact duplicte, then the copy would have feelings too.
  • Be intrigued
  • Druid asks if she can make a check to calm down DoppelRanger.
  • I say to roll persuasion.
  • 19 on the dice, modded 22.
  • Druid succeeds, DoppelRanger ceases to try to murder, still hates Ranger.
  • Players find out he's going to die in one hour no matter what. Wizard asks if there's any magic bullshit they can do to keep DoppelRanger alive.
  • Tell him to make an Arcana check.
  • Nat goddamn 20.
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  • Tell him that a Raise Dead spell would keep him from disappearing.
  • Forgot Cleric still had some diamonds to do just such a thing. Somehow still has Raise Dead prepared.
  • I am now running a GMPC that is a literal copy of an existing player.
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  • DoppelRanger hangs around for multiple sessions.
  • DoppelRanger is really effective. Seems I'm better at running Ranger's character than Ranger is.
  • After 2 more levels, DoppelRanger is noticeably more effective than Ranger.
  • Ranger tries to get DoppelRanger to leave the party.
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  • Several sessions later, party in in a hard position.
  • Only Druid and Wizard are still up, Cleric, DoppelRanger, and Ranger are down, monsters on their heels.
  • Need to pick up downed allies and GTFO.
  • Wizard shoulders Cleric and hustles out.
  • Druid looks back and forth between the two left, waffles a bit.
  • I tell her she could Wild Shape and carry both.
  • She does that and runs.
  • Ranger's player is eternally salt that there was even a moment's hesitation.
  • I'm still running DoppelRanger. He still kinda styles all over Ranger whenever a fight happens.
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Asheville city council sweeps subornation of perjury under the rug. wlos.com/shared/news/feat…
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Further evidence of the #KyleRittenhouseTrial DA suborning perjury, adding to a plethora of prosecutorial misconduct twitter.com/DefNotDarth/s…
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Here’s my guide to getting the new OTs 9 in zombies if you’re like me and are too suborn play MP to get it.

First off, DON’T GET ANY AMMO MODES OR ELEMENTAL POP. Also I recommend the Milano because of the slow fire rate/ higher damage combo make it easy getting your tempest low health (also it’s arguably the best SMG in OB overall against Orda and what not). Secondly, tempests don’t spawn in naturally until world 3. So on 1 and 2 get through the worlds asap. However if the world events that include: the golden cest, the free perk and sometimes the fury crystal are in your game, do them bc they have a chance to spawn in additional tempests. Now other tips for actually getting the kills. Get your target low by first shooting their chest to reveal their weak spot. Once they’re chest is open you can shoot them in the legs to get them lower if needed. Once they’re decently low health run away from them. When you run away, the tempests will teleport in front of you. Once they teleport try to kill them as fast as possible. If you miss some shots or they just didn’t die because they were too high health just continue running to force them to teleport in front of you again and repeat the process. Once you’ve gotten to world 5/6 go ahead and exfil and restart to make it easier on you. It should take you around 3 games with this process.

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[OC] Playing With Words - SUBORN
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Sad part is, this still probably wouldn't convince him of anything. Arguing with these people is like trying to reason with my suborn cat
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[Article] Suborning science for profit: Monsanto, glyphosate, and private science research misconduct

Glenna, Leland, and Analena Bruce. "Suborning science for profit: Monsanto, glyphosate, and private science research misconduct." Research Policy 50.7 (2021): 104290.

DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.respol.2021.104290

URL: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0048733321000925

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TheEconomist.com: America’s former defence secretaries sound the alarm over Trump; the president’s desperate effort to overturn the election raises fears that he will try to suborn the armed forces economist.com/united-stat…
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Word of The Hour: suborn

suborn: to procure or cause to take a false oath amounting to perjury, such oath being actually taken

See tree for suborn: https://treegledictionary.org/define/suborn

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Is there a statue of limitations on subornation of perjury?
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