Hi everyone, I was recently diagnosed with external resorption on #7.
My dentist said this is usually caused by ortho work but could be caused by a cat allergy. He mentioned this is more of a theory. I’ve searched a little in the literature (Google Scholar) but couldn’t find anything about it.
Has anyone seen/heard anything like this?
I’ve had problems with tmj for about two years now. I used to have constant clicking but following a muscle stretch routine has subsided that. I still have a long ways together considering my jaw still doesn’t open completely evenly though (right side muscles still tighter than left). I’ve never had pain in the actual joints themselves, although even now they do make creaking noises occasionally if the muscles are tense. I was wondering how likely is it that this scenario could result in a change in my bite or condyles even though the actual pain has always been muscular.
Hi y'all,
I posted in r/jawsurgery but thought I'd do here too. I'm 28 f considering a condylectomy and joint replacement for a class II anterior open bite caused by idiopathic anterior resorption. Initially, I was pretty put off the idea of surgery due to cost, physical trauma, and possibility of complications. Now, I'm seriously reconsidering.
Some background: I had braces with tabs 12 years ago coupled with tongue thrust therapy in an effort to close my open bite. Treatment did little to nothing and the orthodontist eventually gave up. I got fitted with a splint/retainer combo for TMJD which I've been wearing ever since and thought that was that. Come to find over a decade later, my dang condyles degrading was the culprit. It's unclear if they will continue to degrade or if they've tuckered themselves out, the poor things.
Functionality is, uh, PRETTY BAD. I can only chew with my back 4 teeth, (2 on top, 2 on bottom). I have to put concerted effort into keeping my lips closed and often find myself jutting my jaw forward to compensate. Biting into food? FORGETAHBOUTIT. I'm lucky to be pain free, by and large. Lately, however, I've been experiencing tooth pain, mainly in the form of sensitivity to hot and cold. My dentist said my molars are more worn than she would expect for someone my age. She and the ortho warn of damaged or cracked teeth in my future. Although the surgeon says not to worry about this? (Am working on getting a second opinion. What do y'all understand the long-term risks to be if I don't fix my bite? Because I'm still unclear on it.)
SO now it's a matter of weighing the pros and cons. My first priority is my long-term health, second is functionality, last is aesthetics (that being said, it would be amazing to have a stronger jaw.) Because we're unsure if/when my condyles will stop resorbing, I am hesitant to peruse maxillo-mandibular surgery as the open bite might come back if they do. A condylectomy and joint replacement with a prothesis seems like the more stable option, but I'm unclear about the longevity of the prothesis and need for follow-up procedures.
So, IN SUM: if any of y'all have experience with ICR and/or open bites, and/or total joint replacement with prosthetics please let me know. I'd be eager to get your input and ask more detailed questions. And yes, I know these questions can and will be put to a surgeon, but they aren't the ones getting the surgery. :)
ALSO I welcome general advice on how to select a surgeon. T
... keep reading on reddit ➡Hi everyone, my 8y/o female DSH cat started showing signs of pain in her mouth on Sunday (didn’t eat all of her food like normal and hissed at me when I tried to look in mouth which is totally off for her). Finally got into vet yesterday and they found a hole in one of her lower premolars with signs of irritation around the gums of at least 2 other lower teeth. She’s predicting multiple teeth are getting resorbed and will need removed.
My vet said “I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole because I am not a veterinary dentist and it’s very easy to break a cat’s lower jaw during an extraction”. She gave me pain meds and sent me home with instructions to contact a veterinary dentist.
Now, I scheduled an appointment for a consult with the only veterinary dentist in our area but they can’t get her in until the end of January. In the meantime I’m keeping an eye on my cat and making sure she still eats (other than Sunday, she’s been eating & behaving normally so idk why it was particularly bad for her on Sunday, maybe a piece of food stuck in it or something?)
But I can’t stop thinking about what my vet said. Will these tooth extractions really be as dangerous as she made it sound? I’ve been crying all evening thinking about the pain my cat will be enduring for the next few months and worrying about her jaw getting broken during surgery.
Thank you for any insight.
Hello everyone! This is a crosspost from r/askdentists, so I've used the strikethrough tool to remove the non-insurance questions. Regardless, if you have that information, I'd love to hear it.
My wife just came home from a consult with her dentist and it was confirmed via Xray that she has severe root resorption in at least 10 teeth, possibly all of them. Meaning that she will likely need most or all of her teeth removed. The dentist said it was the most severe case they'd ever seen. NEAT!!!!
(Note- This was a second opinion from a trusted doctor)
Obviously, we will be discussing further with the orthodontal surgeon, but they're booked until January. So I'm looking for any information to try and wrap my head around this problem and understand the usual process for how its done, the cost, and how much insurance will or won't pay so we can budget and save properly.
A few specific questions we have:
-What is the usual process for removing/replacing teeth? Do they do it all at once? groups of 3?
-Implants seem like the preferred option, but what is the cost/benefit of them vs dentures?
-What sort of cost range should I be anticipating?
-We have an enhanced dental insurance plan (no deductible, 80% for surgery/implants) but it also says $2500 maximum for basic/major restorative (which includes implants), and a $2500 LIFETIME maximum for Orthodontia. Am I right to think that insurance may totally hang us out to dry?
Feline, 5, domestic shorthair, neutered, Midwest. I had noticed some lethargy, a bit of weight loss, so we went to the vet
I initially took him to the vet because he wasn’t eating his dry food as much but was still eating wet food and treats. I switched him over to a new dry food and he seems to like that one. During the exam though, the vet found a tooth resorption so that’s why I’m asking about how serious it is.
How serious is tooth resorption in a feline? It’s the tooth right behind his canine, not sure on the name of that tooth. Does it have to be extracted?
My surgeon mentioned he would put me on medicine ~2 weeks pre op to help lower the risk for condylar resorption. I forgot to ask what it was called and I couldn’t find any literature about it. Has anyone else had this?
Hello! I woke up today and noticed my back molar was chipped near the gum line. It seemed to be from a cavity that kept going. I wasn’t too alarmed I had teeth chip on me before. When I was looking at the molar i saw that the tooth NEXT to my molar had a PINK spot on it?!? I recently fell into a deep depression due to circumstances I couldn’t control and unfortunately neglected my teeth in the process. I originally had all my teeth restored to full heath in December of 2020. Is it possible I caught this early and wont lose the tooth? I will be seeking an appointment with my super nice dentist on Monday but for now im worried.
Hello all! My sweet 7 year old cat, the love and light of my life, was diagnosed with some feline resorptive lesions at his checkup the other week. The vet says she sees at least 3 teeth that need to come out, but there may be more once they take X-rays before the surgery.
I feel so bad that I missed these myself, although we all know how hard it is to see the inside of a cats mouth. I’ve heard they are very painful for them, although I have yet to notice any changes in eating, energy level, grooming etc. I’m still going to get the surgery ASAP! His blood work is clear and I’m just waiting for my funds to clear so I can book it (quoted $1,100-1,600 for anesthesia, X-rays, cleaning, and extractions).
Just wanted to hear from others who have gone through this process and what it’s been like in terms of recovery/medications/aftercare etc. My little man hasn’t had surgery since his neutering when he was a few months old.
I'm aware that severe cases are not common.
But what about mild to moderate cases? Does mild cases happen quite often? And is it usual that moderate cases are not pointed out by dentists because they are not actionable/troublesome?
Hey Friends.
When I was diagnosed over 3 and a half years ago, I was super confused by all the medical terminology out there. Sifting through medical papers in order to understand your disease can be super overwhelming, so I've started a terminology series on YouTube to help break down the terms of LS and what it entails. Today I uploaded a video on fusing and resorption. If you are interested in checking this out, you can watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3aa1thCmbM&t=48s
This is another reason why after 50 it is more and hard work to Reverse Age a body, think of the work it takes to re-build the whole bone structure! not to forget the joints! Can't be done? Well, not by Billionaire and their dumb PETS! LOL
Downside? bloody "bone pain" that you forgot about for decades, re-visited! NOT NICE.
On women, menopause itself has to be paused! Done it too!
How is it that they can't do it?
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Hey everyone, I hope all of you are having a sunbeam-filled day.
Currently I am going through some serious bite issues that was caused by prior teeth decay (meaning I could't chew on that side) and later - the same tooth extraction (meaning I couldn't chew on that side even further on). It all resulted in one of my side of bite not touching at all and other one touching so much to the point of severely rubbing down one healthy molar. It all can be seen in the X-ray attached. (The blue arrow mark the difference in bite in both sides and red crosses are where the molars were extracted).Now as I started to get gum recession and other issues along the lines of gum recession, my dentist was pretty surprised at the way I can't touch teeth on one of the sides and told me that orthodontic treatment is pretty much urgent and necessary.I knew I need at least one implant, if not two. Wanting to get opinions from different sides, I visited 3 orthodontists. One of them (who seemed to be the most professional) told me to extract all of my wisdom teeth, then he would put braces on and towards the end of the treatment, I would have to get 2 implants as he would open back the spaces where the 1st molars were extracted.Another orthodontist suggested me to remove the lower left wisdom teeth and get an implant in the middle of the braces treatment and if I understood correctly, the gap in the upper right where the 1st molar was removed would be closed by braces, so only one implant needed.And today I came back from the 3rd ortho, the last one I inteded to visit. She told me that we could try closing both extraction gaps, so no implants and no extractions would be needed.My own input and wishes (although I obviously have no degree in dental area) - I would try to avoid getting dental implants at all costs (I am only 24!) as they last only around 10 years and in general that's loads of money. Although if needed, I would pay, but the idea of it lasting only 10 years and me being in my early 20s doesn't sit well with me.However, closing gaps (especially the lower one, it seems to be huge..) sounds scary as well? I am so afraid of root resorption, yet as I told that to the 3rd ortho, she was like "orthodontic treatment has it's risks either way".. So according to my wishes, the 3rd orhodontists suggestion would be the most welcome one, but honesltly I am just kind of scared she may not.......be... too professional? I get that getting 2 implants would be the most objectively "corr
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I have had braces for a long time when I was young, there was quite a lot of movement being done. Now I have a slight relapse of my left central incisor, which has rotated inwards a tiny bit, I'd say 1-2mm. My dentist says he can fix it within 1-3 months, but I have been reading up on root resorption, and I'm wondering if this is of concern for me, since it would be my second time having orthodontic treatment. I'm 24.
https://i.redd.it/m9erdig2ngk21.jpg
(Don't mind the misplaced wisdom tooth, that was the reason this X-ray was made)
Hi y'all,
I'm 28 f considering a condylectomy and joint replacement for a class II anterior open bite caused by idiopathic anterior resorption. Initially, I was pretty put off the idea of surgery due to cost, physical trauma, and possibility of complications. Now, I'm seriously reconsidering.
Some background: I had braces with tabs 12 years ago coupled with tongue thrust therapy in an effort to close my open bite. Treatment did little to nothing and the orthodontist eventually gave up. I got fitted with a splint/retainer combo for TMJD which I've been wearing ever since and thought that was that. Come to find over a decade later, my dang condyles degrading was the culprit. It's unclear if they will continue to degrade or if they've tuckered themselves out, the poor things.
Functionality is, uh, PRETTY BAD. I can only chew with my back 4 teeth, (2 on top, 2 on bottom). I have to put concerted effort into keeping my lips closed and often find myself jutting my jaw forward to compensate. Biting into food? FORGETAHBOUTIT. I'm lucky to be pain free, by and large. Lately, however, I've been experiencing tooth pain, mainly in the form of sensitivity to hot and cold. My dentist said my molars are more worn than she would expect for someone my age. She and the ortho warn of damaged or cracked teeth in my future. Although the surgeon says not to worry about this? (Am working on getting a second opinion. What do y'all understand the long-term risks to be if I don't fix my bite? Because I'm still unclear on it.)
SO now it's a matter of weighing the pros and cons. My first priority is my long-term health, second is functionality, last is aesthetics (that being said, it would be amazing to have a stronger jaw.) Because we're unsure if/when my condyles will stop resorbing, I am hesitant to peruse maxillo-mandibular surgery as the open bite might come back if they do. A condylectomy and joint replacement with a prothesis seems like the more stable option, but I'm unclear about the longevity of the prothesis and need for follow-up procedures.
So, IN SUM: if any of y'all have experience with ICR and/or open bites, and/or total joint replacement with prosthetics please let me know. I'd be eager to get your input and ask more detailed questions. And yes, I know these questions can and will be put to a surgeon, but they aren't the ones getting the surgery. :)
ALSO I welcome general advice on how to select a surgeon. The one I talked with was not the best communicator and
... keep reading on reddit ➡Hello! 19 Male here. I cracked my molar over the weekend due to a cavity that went unnoticed. Upon examining I notice the tooth next to it has a pink spot. Is this tooth resorption? I fell into a deep depression over the course of this year due to circumstances I couldn’t control and unfortunately neglected my teeth in the process. I has my teeth restored december of 2020 of all cavity’s. How much damage could I have done in this amount of time?
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