Psychopathy Puns

Given each type is associated with a personality disorder , and type 8 at unhealthy levels is associated with violence, sadism, anti-social, psychopathy, etc...

How have you dealt with integrating this self knowledge and 'labeling'?

Have you seen these patterns in yourself?

Does associating or labeling yourself as 'potentially psychopathic' bother you?
Do you talk about it?
Do you deny it?
Is it open for discussion?

Ive seen these patterns in my personal history as a child... acts of violence, criminality etc... (with subjectively justifiable reasoning of course) .... and still as an adult , when confronted with a conflict ... my mind seems to take on a warlike stance, verbally , legally, etc... yet imagination reveals my truth - that before i arrive to a common sense fix action and mutual solution ... i also notice ideate about 'simpler solutions' than following some process or paperwork or legal affair/battle, etc. i.e -' if this person wasnt there, the problem would go away'

Even in type 8 language upon disconnect from relations... "they are dead to me" ...

What do you all make of this?

I know this is probably cliche but I'm genuinely quite curious as to what the difference is because I've been attempting to do research purely out of boredom but keep getting various answers and I don't know the actual difference is so it would be very helpful if somebody could answer this for me

A psychopath can't individuate, do you think we'll ever find away to heal them if that's even possible ?

I also feel like it's a collective problem, maybe they're abused at a young age and become serial killers because of their abuse, and we should all be concerned about doing evil things to people, because if we don't do our best, evil will keep us in check with colateral damage or not.

If we follow the hypothesis that a psychopath are made at very young age, inflicting such trauma to innocent being lead to severe punishment by the universe.

Psychopathy is a hypoplastic and hyporeactive mind meaning that it's defined neurologically through traits that are missing/lessened compared to neurotypical people.

I suspect these traits include: Nonexistent Empathy Nonexistent Guilt Nonexistent Stress Nonexistent Emotional Bonds Extremely Underdeveloped Emotional Life

I have all of the traits (or lack of them) above as of now. Yet my question is, does anyone else remember having at least one of the things they felt before when they were younger? I used to feel the 'emotions in the room' when I walked into one. I used to feel deeply lonely. Does this mean there's a chance that I can undo my other psychopathic traits? Personally some people can think "haha yeah i wanna be a psycho badass!!" all they want, but I find it a massive barrier to living a fulfilling life.

I say this because it seems like organized religion attracts these type of people. I remember so much chaos in the Kingdom Hall I went to. There was even a young divorced woman who stabbed her daughter 22 times killing her. Two married men had sex with teenage girls- one ended up pregnant and the other was a step daughter. Just lots of disgusting dysfunctional chaos.

Walter Brucker was admitted to the clinic on 14 March 1938, the day following the Anschluss, because of extreme agitation. His record allows a rare insight into daily life on Asperger’s ward during these critical days. On 15 March, amidst cheering youngsters, Walter had to listen to a triumphant speech by Hitler. Despite the fact that as a Jew Walter had every reason to panic, his fearful reaction was held against him. The entry of that day (not in Asperger’s handwriting) stated that Walter “is much more disagreeable than three weeks ago, when he was [last] here. During Hitler’s speech, he put his head into his hands on the table and stared into a void. He was very agitated; when a child broke out in cheers he opened his eyes wide and turned pale.” Asperger’s diagnosis all but ignored the boy’s precarious situation and framed his mental troubles as follows: “severe psychopathy, with a particular sensitivity and paranoid irritability.” Asperger thus pathologized and de-politicized the boy’s reactions to the anti-Jewish persecution then pervading the city; based on the same logic, in a formulation that was perhaps meant as an act of generosity, he stressed that Walter could not be held fully responsible for his sometimes aggressive reactions. In his diagnosis, Asperger omitted the fact that Walter was Jewish and that his life was under threat from the Nazi regime. Although this is in line with Asperger’s general tendency to attribute mental troubles to “constitution” rather than environmental factors, in this particular case, it is possible that he was also trying not to highlight the boy’s Jewish background (in contrast to his actions in Alfred’s case). As it turns out, Walter indeed had every reason to be fearful. He died on 26 February 1945 as a slave laborer of “Projekt Riese,” the construction in Lower Silesia of underground facilities that included Hitler’s new headquarters.

Source:

https://molecularautism.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13229-021-00433-x

For those of you that aren't aware, Mass Formation is a phenomenon of crowds/societies where they end up basically going crazy and doing crazy stuff. Great discussion of the phenomenon here: "HTTP COLON SLASH SLASH rumble DOT com SLASH vrxr3n-tpc-653-dr.-mattias-desmet-dr.-robert-malone-dr.-peter-mccullough-mass-form.html"

Anyway -- having thought about it a bit I am now thinking that perhaps some countries will wake up from it (maybe USA?) without any additional terror being inflicted on the non-compliant.

However, I get the feeling in some countries we will see atrocities committed. Already what is going on is psychopathy on a mass scale -- especially in Europe. However, I am afraid that in some parts of the world, atrocities WILL be committed beyond the reprehensible things we have seen thus far, making where we are at now seem "mild" in comparison. I believe this will happen as a culmination of this mass formation garbage, before it ends.

What are your thoughts on this?

And what countries do you predict will be the first to round up the "undesirables" such as the unvaccinated and force-vaccinate them?

I predict it will be one of the "Axis" countries: Germany, Italy, or Austria -- or perhaps Canada that will do it first. And they won't be the last to do it. I also predict that when this happens a very large schism will develop polarizing countries on this issue. They will be forced to choose a side and some countries will not choose the side of psychopathy, and others will. It may even lead to war.

Perhaps I'm wrong. I hope I am. I hope the mass formation trash dies without doing any more damage.. but I fear it may not.

What are your guys' thoughts on this?

For example, the idea that in the attention economy these traits allow you to perform in an eye-grabbing fashion 24/7 and reap the rewards that go with that. Or that in a winner take all market the most ruthless, confident and stress-resistant people will become billionaires.

Hi guys,

I'm making a presentation for negotiation in business course in my college. The title of my presentation will be if Psychopaths make good CEOS/leaders at the companies. As I'm not very familiar with the subject and this was a little bit forced on me, could you please help me out with it?

1. I need some scenes from the movies that show behaviour of psychopathic leaders - for example firing 80% of the crew in a cruel way (I know that psychopaths usually try they best but they must be some examples from the movies, can you please provide me with those?)
2. Do you have any ideas why do psychopaths make good leaders? give me some examples! :D

Regards to my fellow psychopaths in the subreddit.

(I'm asperger so we're not that far from eachother)

I apologize if this has been discussed already, but I don’t understand the difference between schizoid PD and psychopathy.

SIDE NOTE: I know that ASPD is the term commonly used, but it seems to focus more on criminal behavior than internal characteristics. There are psychopaths who aren’t criminals, so I’m not a fan of labeling them all with ASPD.

I am specifically talking about primary psychopathy, which is, from my understanding, a variant brain structure caused by genetics. Meanwhile, there seems to be contradicting information regarding whether you can be schizoid primarily through genetics, or if some kind of trauma is required.

Both schizoid PD and psychopathy involve a lack of empathy, blunted emotions, and difficulty (or inability) connecting emotionally with others.

What’s the difference?

Sure, it's 10 years old. But this article is still pretty interesting. I'll add a question to make this small reading relevant:

Do you ever feel stress? How does stress presents in you, if it does at all? Physically? Mentally? In your actions? Is it regular, it rare?

Precision: I saw a post that asked you what you do about it, that's not my question. I'm asking about it manifestation.

PS: I know psychopathy is not necessarily ASPD. However, in the common cliché, psychopath 101 is way more calm and collected than the ones with ASPD, so by syllogism, if Psychopaths can feel stress, so can at least some people with ASPD.

Therefore my question is: who on this sub and how. Because I'm curious. You can argue with the link and the syllogism above to create discussion.

Again that's just me evaluating if I can step in an office but I don't think it violates the guidelines. Manifestation of stress in people with ASPD is a pretty interesting topic that's hard to find studies about.

Recently, a prominent board game personality recommended a method of board game component storage which ranks somewhere between genocide and child abuse in its level of barbarity and moral depravity.

This so called 'person' recommends sweeping pieces into a box at the end of the game and sorting them out during the setup of the next play, without any bagging or boxing whatsoever. I can only guess at what kind of abuse this person suffered during childhood to have evolved into such a conscienceless human being. Have they no soul?

'If you have ever thought that your charismatic, ambitious, ruthless, and unfeeling boss could be a psychopath, your armchair diagnosis may not be far off.

Psychopathy is an inherited mental disorder, an illness that is the result of a deformity in the brain. Those who are born with psychopathy can be dangerous. They are also often very successful in ascending to positions of power. (Whether they’re more successful than others once they’re in power has not been determined.)'

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/why-psychopaths-are-so-good-at-getting-ahead.html

I've been watching the JCS true crime channel on YouTube, which renewed my curiosity about these types of personality disorders.

Could be fiction or non-fiction.

I've previously read The Sociopath Next Door and enjoyed it. I've also loved movies like American Psycho (read the book as well), Talented Mr. Ripley and Match Point.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30730192/

It's unavailable on sci-hub and Research Gate :(

I decided to take a C++ course in uni this semester. And the only thing I'm sure is that, either

1. C++ is a language for psychopaths.
2. My C++ professor in particular is a psychopath.

I'd love to get some input from you guys in order to understand which is correct.

So, basically: C++ is a course called Programming III. Programming I and II (C and Java, respectively) were an absolute piece of cake. C++, though... I'm really struggling to get by. There's just too much. Templates, copy constructors, destructors, copy assignment, templates, pointers, custom operators, type_traits, templates, weird lambdas, templates, templates, and it goes on.

The assignments basically require me to customize every single operator, 3 differently templated overloads of methods, etc, etc. Some examples of the stuff we had to do: create a "var" class that behaves exactly as you would expect. Recreate the Vector class with some retarded stuff like creating a ** operator for cross product (and no, this operator doesn't happen to exist). And a lot of code that looks like this:

template <typename T, template <typename> class Custom = vector, typename F>
auto operator & ( const Custom<T> &vec, F func ) {
    if constexpr ( is_same_v<invoke_result_t<decltype(func), decltype(*vec.begin())>, bool>){
        //...
    }
}

Everything I write sounds like a horrible mistake. These kinds of templates make me feel like I'm using nonsense hacks in a dynamically-typed language. Custom operators sound like a terrible practice to me, you never know if the operator of a certain class has been modified or not, and how it's supposed to behave. Etc, etc.

My question is simple: is this actually used on a daily basis by your average C++ developer, or am I being taught rocket science for no reason?

Edit: Thanks a lot for the feedback! I might not be able to reply to all of you, but I really appreciate your answers.

And by the way, just clarifying! Don't take the title too seriously, I'm not trying to offend anyone, it's just a little joke. And in fact, this professor is one of the best I've had so far - it's just that the assignments have been significantly harder than I expected.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342214898_Criminal_Atistic_Psychopathy

This pdf describes how many serial and mass killers have this combination. What do you guys think causes this?

I've seen users give or imply some very disparate definitions of psychopathy in this sub, a trend which I also see repeated in discourse in unrelated circles. For that reason, I've put together some of the most popular definitions of psychopathy that I've encountered in my research, and want to see the degree to which each is accepted by the people in this sub.

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I know that psychopathy isn't a personality disorder, it's actually a set of traits. Although my psychologist diagnosed me with aspd, he thought I might be a psychopath. What are the exact differences between them? I've read some psychologists say they're the same thing, but some others claim they're different. What is the difference between them really?

In order to better understand ASPD/Psychopathy for both NTs, those who suspect they may have one of the following disorders, or those professionally diagnosed, I'd like to introduce you all to the Millon Subtypes, in a condensed and easy to reference overview:

5 Subtypes of ASPD:

• Nomadic Antisocial (Including Schizoid and Avoidant Features)

  • Official Description: "Drifters; roamers, vagrants; adventurer, itinerant vagabonds, tramps, wanderers; they typically adapt easily in difficult situations, shrewd and impulsive. Mood centers in doom and invincibility."

• Malevolent Antisocial (Including Sadistic and Paranoid features)

  • Official Description: "Belligerent, mordant, rancorous, vicious, sadistic, malignant, brutal, resentful; anticipates betrayal and punishment; desires revenge; truculent, callous, fearless; guiltless; many dangerous criminals, including serial killers."

• Covetous Antisocial (Including Negativistic Features)

  • Official Description: "Rapacious, begrudging, discontentedly yearning; hostile and domineering; envious, avaricious; pleasures more in taking than in having."

• Risk-Taking Antisocial (Including Histrionic Features)

  • Official Description: "Dauntless, venturesome, intrepid, bold, audacious, daring; reckless, foolhardy, heedless; unfazed by hazard; pursues perilous ventures."

• Reputation-Defending Antisocial (Including Narcissistic Features)

  • Official Description: "Needs to be thought of as infallible, unbreakable, indomitable, formidable, inviolable; intransigent when status is questioned; overreactive to slights."

Source: Wikipedia1, Wayback Machine2

9 Subtypes of Psychopathy

• Unprincipled Psychopath (Including Narcissistic Traits)

  • Description: "Stays out of legal boundaries, expresses indifference to the well-being of others, doesn't experience remorse when exploiting others for personal gain, exhibits arrogance, has a dishonest social style, concerned about how relationships benefit them rather than the other party."

• Underhand/Furtive Psychopath (Including Histrionic Traits)

  • Description: *"Wears a sociable and pleasant mask to hide impulsive, resentful, aggressive, and unconfident tendencies. Commonly displays bad temper towards people close to them. Attention seek

1- I don’t think I’m necessarily charming and flattering towards other people, but I do carry a charisma and playfulness during conversation that attracts other people.

2- I lack strong connection to other human beings, but I often fake it towards woman. I was raised by emotionally neglectful and alcoholic parents which I believe contributed to this.

3- I’m extremely impulsive and self destructive. I use drugs often and have done very dangerous things that could have ended up killing me. I’m a thrill seeker.

4- I have morals, but they deviate from the norm. I believe that friends are there for entertainment and enemies for self-development. I don’t intentionally go out to destroy people.

5- I lack empathy, often noticeably. When I am forced to give an empathetic response, I give an awkward act.

6- I am unsure of what emotion I am feeling at the moment, majority of the time I just have an analytical inner monologue with blunted but existent emotions.

7- I’ve been told that majority of the time my face is completely emotionless and I have sudden facial expressions that are extreme then fade away.

8- I am on good terms and liked by most people, but truly get close to no one.

9- I lie pathologically and find a certain pleasure in creating a persona around what a certain person values and keeping track of what I’ve told them.

10- I’ve been told people think I have Asperger’s.

11- I live in the moment.

12- I never get mad at people, but have aggressive tendencies.

13- I’m very aloof

14- My grandpa was definitely a psychopath: had many wives, was a corrupt homicide detective who killed people after robbery then took the case in his own hands, put a gun to my moms head to scare my grandma etc.

15- I dont feel guilt, I’ve regretted things I’ve done because it’s harmed my reputation. But have never been guilty.

16- I’ve believe I’ve been suspected by school social workers due to my behavioural issues and lack of improvement in behaviour after punishment, to which then they asked “do you have a moral compass”. I wasn’t much of a bully, but I did a lot of shenanigans out of boredom in school. When talking to the social workers, I’d be very contentious and would rarely give out the truth.

Obviously there’s much more to me than these 16 bullet points, and the memory and identity work in a way that makes it impossible to share myself objectively in a short period of time with my own writing. But hey, I’m curious, it’s been on my mind.