Prohormone Puns

Hey guys, first off im not gonna source anything but i’ll be running “superdrol” and not the AAS. I plan to run it for 42 days (they came in a weird count idk). I will have arimistane on hand in case of estrogen side effects, and arimiplex as a pct.

Now, some people say to start the arimistane with the cycle as it’s not strong enough to suppress estrogen enough to reduce gains and cause side effects such as lethargy and the sorts. MAJORITY of people advise against this, what do you guys think?

Lastly I’ll also be on “Liver Rx” i think it’s called on cycle as even tho it’s advertised as non-liver toxic there have been debates so i’m being safe. (Plus this supplement has 1-andro and 4-andro in it, one is definitely liver toxic I believe.

Overall is this okay?

Thought I would share my story and also thank everyone who has shared experiences... its helped out alot.

Like many others i was a typical gym newbie, overweight, 0 training knowledge, no idea on nutrition, poor posture, and wanting to look like the rock.

So of course I did what any self respecting young man would do I watched hours of YouTube videos  and purchased every supplement under the sun. I partnered this with some very poorly structured machine workouts and a HEAVYYYYYY bulking diet.

3 months in and I was gaining alot of weight but I was looking worse. I went from looking "fluffy" to the whole hog and none of it was lean mass. This really wrecked my confidence in the gym and I started to feel really intimated when it came to working out with Greek god looking MF's rolling around putting me to shame.

I started looking for a quick fix, there must be something I'm missing? I guess when your young and in that position your easily led because I soon found out my hopes and dreams could be attained by taking a few small pills a day?

Pro hormones you say? Like steroids but not injected? but Just as good and available delivered to my door? My debit card came out FAST.

I started conservitaly (age 21) with 60 tabs of epistane @ 2 per day with milk Thistle and the same poor training and nutrition. Nothing happened, not a thing and once I stopped taking them I felt even weaker .I basically just switched to cardio and gave up after.

6 months later with my first "lads" holiday booked I decided it was my time. The reason I had failed before was lack of tablets. Had to be right?!

So I went for it placed the following order...

Epistane (test) 120 tabs Mega Tren 60 tabs Trenavar 60 tabs M-Drol 60 tabs

I cannot exactly remember how I ran this but it was roughly

Epistane 2 x daily Megatren x 2 daily

For 30 days

Then went to Epistane x 2 daily Trenavar x 2 daily M-drol x2 daily

For 30 days

DUDE ... I gained some strength and alot more weight, I was high body fat but I was looking pretty meaty. I finished my last cycle the day before I got on the plane. (Cycle was fine except for feeling a bit "off" and road rage to the point where I was following people for an hour just for cutting me up lol)

With my new "gains" I jumped on a plane and proceeded to consume my body weight in alcohol, took no pct at all, didn't take milk Thistle with me, after 10 days I was so sick, I felt completely poisoned and by the time I got home I'd lost all my

I’m 4 weeks into hi-tech pharmaceuticals 1-test and was wondering when do I start taking the pct? I’ll be doing a whole other bottle so 3-4 weeks more. They’ve told me to start taking them after the first bottle while taking the second want to hear your guys thought. Also my pct is some shitty pct pills that I bought at my local shop.

I am 30 years old, so this isn't a kid asking this question. I'm just curious as to what you guys have to say. Do Prohormones work? I dabbled in D-bol and Deca when I was younger, but I've been out of the lifting game for a while. I'm not wanting to jump back in to training and using any type of aid, without a foundation. I just want your guys' opinion on prohormones and how they've worked for you. Specifically 17a-methyl-5a-androsta 1 if possible, but any story is appreciated. Thanks in advance🤙

I was always super skinny growing up due to father side genetics & lack of nutrition/sedentary lifestyle (busy/absent single mom). This caused extreme insecurity growing up so I started to get into lifting weights. I was always way skinnier and weaker than most boys my age, so I took Halotest-25 when I was 15. Obviously this was a horrible idea but gave me confidence. As time went on I began stacking more and more prohormones like epistane, methylstenbolone, DMZ. I was age 16-19 when I took the most of them. Got a blood test at age 19 which came back Total T of 300 ng/dL female doctor said it was fine. My mistake was not telling her the stuff I was taking. So I assumed she was right and let it go for years. After 6 years (25 now) I realized I have suffered from horrible symptoms of low T. I just got tested at 448 ng/dL total testosterone. My urologist said I was fine. He also tested FSH (3.0) & LH (4.0), but refused to test estradiol, prolactin, or anything else I see recommended here. What’s my next step? Where can I order a full panel blood test?

Hi, I’m running alpha shredder and L4033 together for one month, 2 pills a day, each. And then the second month rad 140 with pct and Armidex.

I was wondering about the interaction with ocasional recreational drugs since studies show is not as toxic as regular test. Would there be a significant tax on the liver?

Any info on it helps!

Thanks

I'm aware this isn't great for gains, I'm just looking for an energy, motivation, mood and appetite boost with minimal suppression to jump start me back into fitness after crashing hard into depression over the last year, and based on limited anecdotes this seems to be what I'm looking for. Ostarine seems like a decent option as well and would greatly appreciate a comparison if anybody has used both.

Been running Ostarine for few weeks, got a prohormone. SD Matrix - 2a,17a-dimethyl-4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-0l.

Its liver toxic but lets forget that. Has anyone stacked a sarm and prohormone together or would they both compete for the same receptors making one or the other pointless?

Back in 2013, I was using a designer creatine, similar to the one you mentioned recently claiming crazy results from an over price bottle of creatine. A few months of using the "creatine," I gained 15 pounds of muscle and assumed these were typical results since I never used creatine before.

I remember I caught a cold and stopped lifting for about 2 weeks, then the day I used the creatine again, I started noticing my right nipple becoming sensitive and growing. I got testicular atrophy, gyno, and basically every other side effect known from using anabolics.

Looking back, this was right around the time before there was the ban on pro-hormones, so I'm certain these creatine pills had some kind of pro hormone, designer steroid, oral steroid in them. I basically ran a cycle with no PCT and years later am still not how I was before using it.

I know there have been many situations like this about UFC fighters using supplements with banned substances (knowingly or unknowingly), so before everyone trolls me saying creatine doesn't do this- I know, this wasn't creatine, it was just marked as it and I bought it off the shelves at GNC.

Curious to hear if anyone else has had an experience like this... not a fun one and definitely regret it. At this point I'm considering whether running a PCT years later is worth it or running a proper cycle to try to get back to baseline.

Hope ya'll enjoy this story

Self explanatory question

I am a 3,000 meter runner, is there any pro hormone I would benefit from or other supplements, I am not NCAA or any other organization and just run local races so I don’t have to worry about legality.

Right now I'm planning on starting my first prohormone cycle. I'll probably take 1-DHEA aka 1-Andro aka 1-Testosterone from High Tech Pharmaceuticals, because it's non-methylated and doesn't convert to DHT or estrogen. Even though it's not toxic to the liver it can raise liver enzymes, so should I take on cycle support or will I be fine if I just do a PCT after 8 weeks?

I got my T levels checked for the first time (I'm 23) and my total T was 600ng/dL, but my free test was 9.6pg/mL. Labcorp's reference range for free test is 9.3 to 26.5pg/mL which means I am about as low as I can possibly be while still be considered "normal" so my doctor thinks I'm fine and won't give me trt, of course. Do people commonly use prohormones as hrt? I have seen a few reports online, but not much. The info here to pretty sparse too.

I am having trouble finding good info online about prohormones in general, so if anyone could tell me a good place for me to read about this on my own, I would appreciate it. Even MPMD has very little info on prohormones.

edit: And when I say I am finding very little info online, I mean info that I can trust. Seems like 95% of webpages talking about prohormones are doing affiliate marketing.

TBH I do know very little about prohormones. I only dug into sarms and little bit steroids (never taken though). I saw MPMD video about a 15yo using sarms where he mentioned that DHT is responsible for the growth down there. Somewhere (on a random fitness page) I read that basically anything that can be converted to estrogen can make it smaller in development (maybe take arimistane to try to enhance?) So my question stands still if DHT prohormones/steroids could enhance the size?
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I plan on taking prohormones within the year but want to start off by taking test boosters. I was wondering if anyone can drop some knowledge on taking test boosters, any recommendations as far as cycling and products are appreciated.

I've been taking prohormones for like 5 years, mostly non-stop. I haven't cycled - I started using these PHs from a local health food store without realizing what they were, and by the time I did it was too late to just stop. My T was low to begin with I think, has probably always been on the low side, so I lose strength and size rapidly whenever I quit.

I'm 40 years old, 5'11" 190 lbs. I work out 5 -6 days a week. I have my liver function tested 2 years ago and was fine, but my BP has been around the 150/90 range quite often. My testosterone levels bottom out when I stop taking the PHs. My libido goes to nothing and my bench (as as example) drops from 255 lbs to 165 lbs. I take liver support daily.

I should note that I usually take one pill every other day instead of two a day. It's a triple stack called Tri-Threat from Built.

My question is, am I going to die? Like how long until my liver goes? How common is irreversible liver damage?

I am also looking for ways to get off of this but still keep my physique and libido, at least somewhat. I am very lean muscular, not huge. My abs look fantastic especially for a 40 year old, and I hate to give that up. I also got divorced from my insane/evil ex right around the time COVID started, and I'm looking to meet someone new. No kids, really want a family, so there is a lot of pressure to keep looking good.

Any input or experience anyone has would be really appreciated!! There are very few articles that actually address this issue and doctors have been very little help.

Whats working for everyone and where to buy. Back in the day I used ADVANCED MUSCLE SCIENCE. The new stuff seems weak

My buddy bought these “supplements” called “HexaMax” and “TrenaMax”

I can’t find these anywhere online but I looked up the chemical nomenclature on the back and it came up with something called Hexadrone and Trendione. I took 3 doses of the HexaMax at 50mg once yesterday in the morning, once last night, and once today this morning without worrying about it. I went to work and was talking to a co-worker about it and that’s when he mentioned I need to find out what I’m taking cause it didn’t sound like I knew... which I obviously didn’t.

If I stop taking it right now will my testosterone come back? Has it not gone down yet? Also am I infertile now that I took it?

Sorry I’m kind of freaking out right now because I thought this was something like creatine or some BCAA thing but it was a steroid thing. Please help!

My main worry is my fertility because I’m 24 and want to have kids at some point

I've seen a lot of people talking about using say clomid or nolva during there sarm cycles instead of a test base would that also work for prohormones ?

Will it be bad to take prohormones while on Prozac?

Hi, so to start off l am by no means an expert on prohormones, etc and have minimal knowneldge of how they work.

I was very aware however that they can damage your organs if missused or used too much, so last saturday I went out on a whim and decided to look into buying a bottle, I read the suggested use and warnings on the label saying to never exceed the max dosage in a 24 hour period, being very cautious I only took 1 every other day starting on monday, and everything was fine, come this saturday, I took one about an hour before going to the gym, everything was fine for about an hour until I had a slight pain in my right ribcage, I pushed through for about an hour and came home, pain still going.

After I decided to take some beef organ supplements to see if that would help along with some fish oil, the pain subsided after an hour but came back around nighttime.

Looking into it more it was revealed that I must take pct to help prevent liver damage, unfortunately I was under the impression this was used after doing a period like 4-6 weeks.

So, I'm in need of some advice from any experienced users here, should go see a doctor and explain, or get on pct as soon as possible?

Edit: I should add that I'm drinking as much water as possible.

If you are on TRT, could you still use Prohormones? Is there anyone on TRT who have used any prohormones while on TRT?