Non-phototoxic alternative to lemon oil

I've currently got into the idea of making my own perfume. I love lemony, citrus scents but wouldn't want to put citrus fruit essential oils in a perfume because of the phototoxicity. What are safe alternatives to use that would still give a citrusy scent?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/sunandcitrus
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TIFU. Bergamot/citrus essential oils are phototoxic

Actually a couple days ago. I guess you can figure it out from the title.

Toward the end of yesterday I noticed I had this pretty large, dumb-looking blotchy burn on my chest/neck. This morning I woke up and it was worse. I thought, "That's so weird, I was out in the sun on Wednesday, but the shape of this sunburn really doesn't make any sense."

Anyway, then I remembered I'd used a bergamot oil/citrus oil blend as perfume the other day. Went to read the label. The label says not to put it on your skin and that it "reacts strongly to sunlight and other sources of ultraviolet light."

I looked this up online and found some distressing images of second and third-degree burns caused by this same kind of thing. Luckily mine is only first-degree. So it'll just hurt and look weird for a few weeks, nothing serious.

TL;DR: Citrus oils + sunlight = burns. Also, read the damn label before you put chemicals on yourself.

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Bergapten – a phototoxic furanocoumarin natoxaq.ku.dk/toxin-of-th…
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Blue light-induced gene expression alterations in cultured neurons are the result of phototoxic interactions with neuronal culture media biorxiv.org/content/10.11…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/sburgess86
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TIL: The Giant Hogweed is a phototoxic, noxious weed that can cause 2nd degree burns, blisters, scarring and sometimes blindness. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her…
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TIL That the Giant Hogweed, a plant native to Asia, but taken to Europe as an ornamental plant, has sap which is phototoxic, and exposure to it and sunlight can cause blisters, scars, and blindness. It has been increasingly spotted in North America, as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her…
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TIL of a plant called giant hogweed. Its sap is extremely phototoxic. If you touch the sap and are then exposed to UV rays it will produce severe caustic burns. These chemicals are also known to bond with your DNA and kill it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…
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[Product Question] Mad Hippie Vitamin C serum contains grapefruit (possibly sensitizing and phototoxic), any adverse reactions to this?

Paula’s Choice ingredient dictionary lists Grapefruit Oil, Grapefruit Peel Extract, and Grapefruit Seed Extract as POOR on her rating scale due to it possibly being sensitizing and phototoxic. Eek! Has anyone had any adverse reaction to this serum? The phototoxic possibility is worrying as I like to use Vitamin C serums in conjunction with my sunscreen for its antioxidant effects.

I know YMMV, but any thoughts on your experiences with this product? Also, the label just says β€œgrapefruit” does anyone know exactly what that means? Juice? Seeds? Peel?

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Breaking the barrier: an osmium photosensitizer with unprecedented hypoxic phototoxicity for real world photodynamic therapy scholar.google.de/scholar…
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SPF Lip Balms for Suuuuuper-Sensitive lips: Physical SPF, No Chemical SPF, No Peppermint Oil, & No Phototoxic Essential Oils

OK, for you fellow SCA'ers with super-sensitive lips, I'm trying to compile the ultimate SPF Lip Balm List.

###Super-sensitive Requirements

  • Requirement #1: Must have Physical Sunscreen.
  • Requirement #2: Must have NO Chemical Sunscreens.
  • Requirement #3: NO peppermint oil.
  • Requirement #4: Must have NO phototoxic essential oils

I was getting these awesome recommendations from SCA'ers here, and then I started reading about essentail oils & phototoxicity, & found this article. Hence, requirement #4.

But, I am still including a list of lip balms with essential oils, just in case the research doesn't pan out, or the amounts included are really small. Personally, I'd prefer to avoid photo-sensitizing essential oils in SPF lip balm. Also, limonene seems to be very common in these lip balms... here is a paper on limonene - as it oxidizes, it can produce compounds that are contact allergens. OK. Onward!

###Physical SPF Lip balms that fulfill all Super-sensitive Requirements above

Badger Sunscreen Lip Balm with SPF 15 Ingredients: Non-Nano, Uncoated Zinc Oxide 8%, Olea Europaea (Organic Extra Virgin Olive) Oil, Cera Alba (Organic Beeswax), Theobroma Cacao (Organic Cocoa) Butter, Butyrospermum Parkii (Organic Shea) Butter, and Tocopherol (Sunflower Vitamin E).

Beyond Coastal Natural Lip and Face Screen SPF 31 Ingredients: Titanium dioxide 5% and zinc oxide 5%. Aloe barbadensis leaf juice, ascorbyl palmitate (Vitamin C), beeswax, butyrospermum parkii (shea butter) caprylic/capric triglycerides, carthamus tinctorius seed (safflowre) Oil, cocos nucifera (coconut) oil, magnefera indica (mango) seed butter, tocopherol (Vitamin E).

Burnout Zinc Oxide Lip Balm - Natural Coconut Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%. Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Beeswax, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Virgin Hemp Seed Oil, Natural Coconut Flavor, Simmondsiz Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Copernicia Cerifera (Carnauba) Wax.

Burnout Zinc Oxide Lip Balm - Natural Juicy Mango Ingredients: Zinc Oxide 18.6%. Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed Oil, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Beeswax, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Virgin Hemp Seed Oil Natural M

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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Skin Actives is taking out sensitizing & phototoxic citrus essential oils from the Vitamin C Serum with Ascorbic Acid (L). We can ask Active Formulas to follow suit?

I've been corresponding with a CS representative from Skin Actives to ask the origin of the citrus extracts and essential oils in their Vitamin C Serum with Ascorbic Acid (L). While she claimed that the lemon and orange extract in the LAA powder are of non-sensitizing nature, the citrus EOs in the serum base are.

However, she spoke to Dr. Hannah Sivak (the formulator) about it and she did say they are going to take the EOs out on the next batch.

"Hello,

The essential oil part is actually sensitizing. I spoke to Dr. Sivak about this and she said that we can actually take that out of the serum now. We don't currently have any made, but we will be making this change for the next batch we make. Did you want to wait for us to make that and order the serum then?"

I'm not sure if Active Formulas just get the recipe or they get the skincare base and ingredients from Skin Actives, but let's hope that the citrus EOs will disappear from the AF's version as well.

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Tobacco smoke is phototoxic (2004) ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1…
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Phototoxicity in cells - Is it the chloroplasts which are overloading and if so, why does the signal seem to go from unit to unit? youtu.be/sJVtNsezGUI?t=20…
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For all of you that wondered how phototoxicity looks like. I killed my poor ciliates that way. Fluorescent microscopy is painful sometimes... youtu.be/st_QUux7Vqs
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In case you wondered how phototoxicity looks like. I killed my poor ciliates this way. Fluorescent microscopy is painful sometimes youtu.be/st_QUux7Vqs
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GG4 looking pretty at F28! Aside from the pistils that got burnt from spraying for PM 😭 Turns out that turning down the lights isn't enough to prevent phototoxicity, even if they're only on for 40 minutes πŸ˜€πŸ™„πŸ₯² hopefully she pops out some more soon
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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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[product question] Volition has cucumber and Glow recipe has pineapple. Are they bad in the morning because of phototoxicity ? πŸ’¦
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I’ve got this disease where I can’t stop making airport puns.

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Just because it's a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

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What's the opposite of lady fingers?

Mentos

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

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Puns make me numb

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[Routine Help] Fragrant oils (citrus peel oils/ limonene, etc) and phototoxicity?

How diligently should I try to avoid natural fragrant oils such as limonene, citrus peel oils, etc.? I often come across otherwise good formulas that seem to be ruined by the adding of natural fragrances. Do fragrant citrus oils actually cause increased photosensitivity/ sun damage? I don't want to be purchasing products that could be damaging my skin in the long term.

I am having a hard time finding a solid fragrance-free moisturizer, as well as a Vitamin C serum minus natural fragrances. Any insight and/ or product suggestions would be appreciated!

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Petition to ban rants from this sub

Ants don’t even have the concept fathers, let alone a good dad joke. Keep r/ants out of my r/dadjokes.

But no, seriously. I understand rule 7 is great to have intelligent discussion, but sometimes it feels like 1 in 10 posts here is someone getting upset about the jokes on this sub. Let the mods deal with it, they regulate the sub.

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