Tatars Are Mongols v.redd.it/yzp0g5cr4c881
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πŸ‘€︎ u/LifeguardDry7030
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I’m karaite Tatar and krymchak tatar, both converted to Judaism but later a Tengricized Judaism (btw they from Khazars, cumans, mongols, Huns, tatars, pechenegs, Bulgars etc)

should I choose Khazar flair (I’m also mixed with regular j3wish cause in Judaism ethnicity doesn’t matter) which one do I choose! I’m kipchak and Bulgar!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/TataroJew123
πŸ“…︎ Oct 12 2021
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8 September 1380 – Battle of Kulikovo: Russian forces defeat a mixed army of Tatars and Mongols, stopping their advance.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Vucea
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Is Nogai a Mongol or Tatar?

There are both Mongols and Tatars in the Ivaylo campaign, where he appeared.

If I were to make his own campaign, should we play as Mongols, Tatars, or Mongols -> Tatars?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/hussar269c
πŸ“…︎ Nov 08 2021
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What was it like to live under Ottoman, Tatar or Mongol rule? How did they behave to people in your country?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Ostrihom
πŸ“…︎ Sep 17 2021
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And yes, I now you will say- Ah bUlgaRiAns arE tAtarS aNd mOnGols and gYpsiEs. No, we are not tatars, gypsies or mongols please stop.
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Mongol tatars on the road v.redd.it/hzacn3rktqh71
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πŸ‘€︎ u/cdelachilogram
πŸ“…︎ Aug 16 2021
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What do people in your country associate the word "Tatar"? 13th century Mongol invaders, Turkic ethnic group(s), sauce or all of the above? Are there any saying about Tatars in your language?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Tengri_99
πŸ“…︎ Apr 02 2021
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What kind of horsebow is this? It looks quite good and I'm considering buying. Doesn't seem to match any of the types I'm familiar with (Mongol, Hungarian, Tatar, Turkish, Korean, Manchu, Persian/Mughal). facebook.com/commerce/pro…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/37boss15
πŸ“…︎ Apr 09 2021
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Are the Tatars who originated in Mongolia and now mostly live in European Russia considered Mongols or Turkic? Or are they categorised differently?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/TheIronDuke18
πŸ“…︎ Nov 19 2020
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Did the Mongols call themselves Tatar? youtube.com/watch?v=PK86_…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/SisRob
πŸ“…︎ Feb 09 2021
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Muscovy was founded by Tatar Mongols, not by "russians", so Muscovites are not Slavic, and no ancient russia exists therefore.

The Moscow principality founded Khan Mengu-Timur in 1277

#What inheritance of Kyivan Rus are you talking about here, Russians?

Ykristianna writes about it on his blog.

Moscow and Muscovy are a product of state activities of the Tatar-Mongol Empire and personal assets of the Mengu-Timur Khan.

It was under him that Moscow first appeared as a settlement recorded in 1272, that is, at the third Tatar-Mongolian census, and the first Moscow Ulus (principality) appeared in the Golden Horde in 1277 when Khan Mengu-Timur presented label β€²β€² on the principality β€²β€² to the youngest son of Alexander Nevsky - Daniel, who reached by then, according to Tatar-Mongolian laws, majority (age 16).

So, we finally got to the truth, so diligently hidden by the great Russians: the village of Moscow began to settle in the Moxel tribes since 1272, and the specific Moscow principality appeared in 1277 It was the Khan of the Golden Horde of Mengu-Timur, not Yuri Dolgorukiy, who became the true founder of Moscow and Moscow Ulus.

In the future, their own child - Muscovy, the goldordynsk Khans will contribute to everything. Thanks to Sarai's help and permission, Muscovy will soon be on the path of the so-called β€²β€² gathering of Russian land ". But in itself, this concept of β€²β€² gathering β€²β€² will appear much later when the bones of thousands of murdered will arise and need a β€²β€² great distant past ".

Then the Russian elite will accept stealing everything else's to impersonate.

She will even abandon the forefathers of her statehood - Tatar Mongols, not to mention the abandonment of her native Finnish ethnos - meri, muroms, maces, weights, caves, perm, mokshas, mordva, etc.

True owners and lords of Rostovo-Suzdal and Moscow principalities from 1238 to 1357:

  1. khan Batiy (Sain), 1238-1250;

  2. khan Sartak, 1250-1257;

  3. khan Berke, 1257-1266;

  4. Khan Mengu-Timur, 1266;

  5. khan Tuda-Mengu, 1282-1287;

  6. khan Talabuga, 1287-1290;

  7. khan Tohta, 1291;

  8. khan Uzbek, 1312-1342;

  9. khan Janibek, 1342-1357

These historical figures were the forefathers of the "Russian" statehood.

https://www.facebook.com/mike.tkaczuk.31/posts/2846871022236358

https://www.facebook.com/groups/682112178637849/permalink/1378379515677775/

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πŸ“…︎ Feb 12 2021
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13th-15th century Tatar Bows that Mongols would of likely used youtube.com/watch?v=wFNBv…
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πŸ“…︎ Feb 04 2021
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Modern age - Turkmen, Mongol and Tatar costumes (the latter until 1700). By Friedrich Hottenroth (b. 1840).
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Kara_Tiele
πŸ“…︎ Feb 19 2021
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Tatar-Mongol joke
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πŸ‘€︎ u/grumpy-techie
πŸ“…︎ May 10 2020
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Mongols vs Tatars matchup

What are your thoughts on this match up? Who is the better nomad? The micro nerd Mongols or the beefy cav spam and fastest viable CA (aka fastest to the worst unit in the game)? Does an immense dark age boost give mongols the momentum to outdo their Tatar opponent? Or can the Tatars don their silk armor and ride headfirst into mangudai?

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πŸ‘€︎ u/poopoocacastinky
πŸ“…︎ Sep 23 2020
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Ivan the Terrible once resigned as Tsar for a year and put a Genghisid, Simeon Bekbulatovich, on the Russia throne during the period. Does this imply that Muscovy/Russia at the time didn't have a as negative impression of Mongol rule/the "Tatar yoke" as it would in later centuries?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/jurble
πŸ“…︎ Dec 22 2020
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Was the β€˜Tatar yoke’ system of Mongol rule in Russia uniquely light compared to other Mongol regimes?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/NasdarHur
πŸ“…︎ Nov 11 2020
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TDIH: December 21, 1237. The city of Ryazan is sacked by the Mongol army of Batu Khan. illustration: Rejection of the Tatars’ Peace Proposal.
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Paul-Belgium
πŸ“…︎ Dec 21 2020
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r/badhistorian admits they wrongly translate original persian 'tatar' into either 'Mongol' or 'Tatar'
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πŸ“…︎ Aug 23 2020
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The tooltip of the Mongol mission "Subjugate the Tatars" is wrong
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πŸ‘€︎ u/LeftZer0
πŸ“…︎ Apr 19 2020
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Mongols need to use the Castle's visual of Cumans and Tatars, not the one from japanese

It's seems to be a fair improvement to the cultural visuals of mongols, the japanese/asiatic cultural buildings are really weird for them, there are closer to Cumans

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πŸ‘€︎ u/hellshake_narco
πŸ“…︎ Nov 18 2019
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I am a Russian nobleman in the 19th century; how much would I want it to be known that my family came to prominence during the Mongol conquest? Would a Mongol or Tatar nobleman/noblewomen in the family tree be something to hide, or would I claim it as part of my heritage?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Pokonic
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I am a Russian nobleman in the 19th century; how much would I want it to be known that my family came to prominence during the Mongol conquest? Would a Mongol or Tatar nobleman/noblewomen in the family tree be something to hide, or would I claim it as part of my heritage? reddit.com/r/AskHistorian…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/HistAnsweredBot
πŸ“…︎ Apr 21 2020
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Polish genes connected to Mongol-Tatar and other Asian genes?

Hi everyone

A historical gene question here. I’ve always wondered if there is a link between Polish genes and Asian genes or perhaps Finnish genes and Asian genes (unrelated to my story; just because I’ve also heard that Finnish people have such eyes).

My brother and I were both born in Denmark to Polish parents (Warszawa and JarosΕ‚aw), and my brother has very mono eyelid/epicanthic fold eyes, which sparked a discussion in my family as to if that could be related to the several Mongol-Tatar invasions of Poland during the 1200’s.

Just a small curiosity. Thank you for your time πŸ’‘πŸ‘πŸ»

Photo of various epicanthic folds: http://imgur.com/oeEqo6s

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πŸ‘€︎ u/VictoriaSobocki
πŸ“…︎ Mar 18 2019
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The Difference between Tatars and Mongols youtu.be/HBOj6urYXzE
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πŸ‘€︎ u/BloodyDay33
πŸ“…︎ Sep 19 2019
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Did the Mongols call themselves Tatar? youtube.com/watch?v=PK86_…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/The_Jackmeister
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Tatarstan legislators recommend rejecting bill that would make 1480 end of Tatar-Mongol yoke a national Russian holiday β€” Meduza [text in the comment section] meduza.io/en/news/2019/08…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/ZD_17
πŸ“…︎ Aug 29 2019
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Did the Mongols call themselves Tatar? youtube.com/watch?v=PK86_…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/The_Jackmeister
πŸ“…︎ Oct 20 2019
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Tatarstan legislators recommend rejecting bill that would make 1480 end of Tatar-Mongol yoke a national Russian holiday meduza.io/en/news/2019/08…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Gril-Gril
πŸ“…︎ Aug 27 2019
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What are the differences between Cossacks/Tatars? Where do they come from and how are they related to Turks and/or Mongols?
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Tatarstan legislators recommend rejecting bill that would make 1480 end of Tatar-Mongol yoke a national Russian holiday meduza.io/en/news/2019/08…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/preston5151
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The Khanate of Crimea in 1600 β€” the last successor state to the Mongol Empire, run by the Crimean Tatars, a vassal of the Ottomans from 1475-1774, and annexed by Russia in 1783 [447x368]
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List of Mongol and Tatar raids against Rus'

1223 Battle of the Kalka River

1237–1242 Mongol invasion of Rus'

1252 Nevruy's horde devastated Pereslavl-Zalessky and Suzdal

1258–1259 Mongol attacks against Danylo of Halych

1273 Mongol twice attacked Novgorod territory, devastating Vologda and Bezhitsa

1274 Mongols devastated Smolensk

1275 Mongol invasion of south-eastern Rus', Kursk pillaged

1278 Mongols pillaged the Ryazan Principality.

1281 Mongols sacked vicinities of Suzdal, Rostov, Vladimir, Yuryev-Polsky, Tver and Torzhok

1282 Mongols attacked Vladimir and Pereslavl-Zalessky

1283 Mongols sacked Vorgolsk, Rylsk, and Lipetsk, overrunning Kursk and Vorgol

1285 Mongols pillaged Ryazan and Murom.

1293 Mongol warlord Dyuden came to Rus and pillaged fourteen towns, including Murom, Moscow, Kolomna, Vladimir, Suzdal, Yuriev-Polsky, Pereslavl-Zalessky, Mozhaysk, Volokolamsk, Dmitrov and Uglitch. During the same summer Takhtamir looted the Tver principality and took slaves in the Vladimir principality.

1307 Tatars pillaged the Ryazan principality.

1315 Tatars pillaged Torzhok in the Novgorod principality as well as Rostov.

1317 Tatars devastated the Tver principality

1318 Tatars sacked Kostroma and Rostov

1322 Tatars devastated Yaroslavl

1327 Mongols organised a punitive expedition to the Tver principality

1358, 1365, 1373 Tatars repeatedly sacked the Ryazan principality

1375 Tatars attacked the southeastern suburb of Nizhniy Novgorod

1377–1378 Tatars attacked the Nizhniy Novgorod and Ryazan principalities

1380 Dmitri Donskoi defeated Tatars at Battle of Kulikovo

1382 Khan Tokhtamysh burns down Moscow, tens of thousands of its citizens died

1391 Tatars attacked Vyatka

1399 Tatars attacked Nizhniy Novgorod

1408 Tatars sacked Serpukhov, as well as the vicinities of Moscow, Pereyaslavl, Rostov, Yuriev, Dmitrov, Nizhni Novgorod and Galich

1410 Tatars ruined Vladimir

1415 Tatars devastated Elets

1429 Tatars looted the vicinities of Galich and Kostroma

1439 Tatar incursions into the vicinities of Moscow and Kolomna

1443 Tatars looted the outskirts of Ryazan, but were repelled from the city proper

1445 Tatars attacked Nizhni Novgorod and Suzdal

1449, 1451, 1455, 1459 Tatars looted the outskirts of Moscow

1468 Tatars looted the vicinities of Galich

1472 Tatars plundered Aleksin

1480 The Great stand on t

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Baba_Jaga_II
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The Great stand on the Ugra river: The End of the Tatar-Mongol yoke in Rus'. (1480)
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Baba_Jaga_II
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Are the Tatars who originated in the Central Asian steppes and now live in European Russia considered Mongols or Turkic? Or are they categorised separately?
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πŸ‘€︎ u/TheIronDuke18
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Polish genes connected to Mongol-Tatar and other Asian genes?

Hi everyone

A historical gene question here. I’ve always wondered if there is a link between Polish genes and Asian genes or perhaps Finnish genes and Asian genes (unrelated to my story; just because I’ve also heard that Finnish people have such eyes).

My brother and I were both born in Denmark to Polish parents (Warszawa and JarosΕ‚aw), and my brother has very mono eyelid/epicanthic fold eyes, which sparked a discussion in my family as to if that could be related to the several Mongol-Tatar invasions of Poland during the 1200’s.

Just a small curiosity. Thank you for your time πŸ’‘πŸ‘πŸ»

Photo of various epicanthic folds: http://imgur.com/oeEqo6s

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πŸ‘€︎ u/VictoriaSobocki
πŸ“…︎ Mar 18 2019
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Polish genes connected to Mongol-Tatar and other Asian genes?

Hi everyone

A historical gene question here. I’ve always wondered if there is a link between Polish genes and Asian genes or perhaps Finnish genes and Asian genes (unrelated to my story; just because I’ve also heard that Finnish people have such eyes).

My brother and I were both born in Denmark to Polish parents (Warszawa and JarosΕ‚aw), and my brother has very mono eyelid/epicanthic fold eyes, which sparked a discussion in my family as to if that could be related to the several Mongol-Tatar invasions of Poland during the 1200’s.

Just a small curiosity. Thank you for your time πŸ’‘πŸ‘πŸ»

Photo of various epicanthic folds: http://imgur.com/oeEqo6s

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πŸ‘€︎ u/VictoriaSobocki
πŸ“…︎ Mar 18 2019
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Polish genes connected to Mongol-Tatar and other Asian genes?

Hi everyone

A historical gene question here. I’ve always wondered if there is a link between Polish genes and Asian genes or perhaps Finnish genes and Asian genes (unrelated to my story; just because I’ve also heard that Finnish people have such eyes).

My brother and I were both born in Denmark to Polish parents (Warszawa and JarosΕ‚aw), and my brother has very mono eyelid/epicanthic fold eyes, which sparked a discussion in my family as to if that could be related to the several Mongol-Tatar invasions of Poland during the 1200’s.

Just a small curiosity. Thank you for your time πŸ’‘πŸ‘πŸ»

Photo of various epicanthic folds: http://imgur.com/oeEqo6s

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πŸ‘€︎ u/VictoriaSobocki
πŸ“…︎ Mar 17 2019
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Polish genes connected to Mongol-Tatar and other Asian genes?

Hi everyone

A historical gene question here. I’ve always wondered if there is a link between Polish genes and Asian genes or perhaps Finnish genes and Asian genes (unrelated to my story; just because I’ve also heard that Finnish people have such eyes).

My brother and I were both born in Denmark to Polish parents (Warszawa and JarosΕ‚aw), and my brother has very mono eyelid/epicanthic fold eyes, which sparked a discussion in my family as to if that could be related to the several Mongol-Tatar invasions of Poland during the 1200’s.

Just a small curiosity. Thank you for your time πŸ’‘πŸ‘πŸ»

Photo of various epicanthic folds: http://imgur.com/oeEqo6s

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πŸ‘€︎ u/VictoriaSobocki
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