About Kitty Genovese, Her Murder and The Bystander Effect
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Hummerous
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About Kitty Genovese, Her Murder and The Bystander Effect
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Hummerous
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ComputerShare posting = risk of Bystander effect (Kitty Genovese murder)

Hello,

While I'm all very happy that apes are finally doing the DRS through ComputerShare (and I wish I could do the same from France -- the only country that's left outside).

I think it's probably the way to initiate the MOASS, and own/reduce the "real" float leaving no room for lending shares.

I think we cracked the code... yet, there's a big risk of killing the momentum.... and I would do the same if I were a SHF.

If I were a SHF, I would make shills post tons and tons and tons of screenshots of registering/transfering/buying their shares through ComputerShare.

This way, it would trigger a very well known effect in psychology called the "Bystander effect".

For example, you see an accident on the road, you see dozen of people around you, and.. you move on. You're saying to yourself "nah, it's good, people in front of me have probably called for help already".

The more the people, the more the bystander effect happens. There's a lot of studies on it, based mainly of the very well known case of the murder of Kitty Genovese.

The poor woman, screamed, shouted, yelled all the way... at least 38 people interacted with her, yet... no one called the police. Everyone thought the next person had already done it.

Imagine we are not 38, but 600K+ people in here. It's even worse and this is the big risk in here. If ComputerShare DRS is really the MOASS. Then by flooding the sub with many-many-many people doing that.... you might think "nah, I'm good, no need to do that, other apes are already doing it".

That's how they can fuck us, big time.

It's only my 2 cents and of course, not saying all the apes posting their registration are shills. I deeply thank you for your service and would do the same if I could from here.

But no one should think that it's "enough", because the SHF could win very-very big this way.

Cheers !

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The Kitty Genovese murder in Queens, New York, in 1964 is one of the most famous murder cases to come out of New York City and into the national spotlight
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kitty genovese incident (3/13/1964) ☹️
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πŸ‘€︎ u/vichnaya_pamyat_
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Death Scream | Loosely based on an actual event concerning the real-life account of Kitty Genovese in 1964 "a young woman whose murder was witnessed by fifteen of her neighbors - who did nothing to help - and refused to cooperate with the police." (1975) youtube.com/watch?v=kiqqR…
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Why did nobody tell me about the gays in Kitty Genovese's murder?

So, I had learned a bit about the murder of Kitty Genovese in school, but never about the fact that there were so many gays involved in the story and how much the fact that they were gay impacted what happened.

For those who don't know, the story that was popularized is that there were 38 people who witnessed her murder, but nobody called the police because they didn't care. Her family then presumably mourned her, but it is usually left that the people who lived in her neighborhood didn't care, even her roommate. At best, you get a bit of debunking that there weren't actually 38 perfect witnesses, and somebody did call the police early on (though they ignored it because it seemed like a domestic dispute), but that there was a random guy who heard her, came out of his apartment, saw that she was being attacked, and then went back in and did nothing because he didn't care.

But that guy wasn't random. And he didn't do nothing. But he also didn't call the police. But that wasn't because he didn't care. He was a friend of Kitty's, and he called a friend of his to try and figure out what to do. Why didn't he call the cops instead? Well, first, nobody trusted the cops in the area, but second, because he was gay, and the cops would have been an even bigger issue, and third, because Kitty was a lesbian, which would have also made the cops even worse of an issue. The cops were finally called after he was able to get a hold of Kitty's neighbor, a nice straight lady who also rushed over and held her as she died.

Okay, so there were obviously some people in her community who cared about her. But what was that about the roommate? Oh, yeah. The cops immediately started questioning her as a murder suspect despite having multiple descriptions of the murderer from the first police call to the gay friend which didn't at all describe her. But why did they go after her, then? Because she wasn't just Kitty's roommate, she was her girlfriend.

So, your girlfriend just got murdered and the police are treating you as a prime suspect despite having a clear description that doesn't at all match you just because of who you love. How can this get worse? Oh yeah, her somewhat estranged family (because they weren't too happy about her being a lesbian) deciding now is when they want to care about their daughter and keeping you and the rest of your community away from her funeral. A community that cared deeply about this young woman who was really proud of who she loved.

Kitty Genove

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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πŸ‘€︎ u/bandanagirl95
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debunking the urban legend of 28 people not helping Kitty Genovese
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Betka101
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What do you call a Kitty Genovese?

You dont, someone else will.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/brickshowoff
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Revisiting the gender-relations debate in the violent murder of Kitty Genovese: Another side of gender-bias favoring women in bystander reactions to emergencies sciencedirect.com/science…
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Kitty Genovese and the urban myth that noone helped her
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Betka101
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Rorschach Killed Kitty Genovese and Blaire Roche (The little girl)

Now, I don't 100% believe this myself. But whilst re reading the Psychiatrist chapter to nights ago, things just clicked that Walter may or may not have been a serial killer.

Aside from his horrendous childhood, (ABusive mother, stunted likely due to malnourishment, ugly, reputation as the son of a prostitute) there were more hard clues. He has a perverse distaste of women due to his mother.
He also has some form of concept of aesthetic beauty, as he even is willing to describe the dress he fashions his mask out of, as "Beautiful. Very Beautiful" despite being a female garment.

That dress with the moving ink, was intended for Kitty genovese. The famous rape and murder victim in New york, where people just watched from their balconies. Moore weaved it into the story. Rorschach after leaving the care home at age 16 went into manual labour in the garment industry. Worked on her dress. She refused to pick it up because she thought it was ugly.

I think there is a decent chance Walter killed her. He describes knowing how many people were watching her be raped and murdered. He ay have glimpsed that from the newspaper, however the artwork employed for those two cells, was a point of view looking upwards at people through windows and on their balconies staring down.
He also stresses to Malcom the psychiatrist, "do you understand?"
It could be interpreted that was his viewpoint. ANd he was disgusted that people stood by and watched. The same way nobody helped him in his childhood.
Remember he knew who Kitty was. He had her order form. SHe also described something he found as beautiful, as ugly.

I's at this point the Rorschch persona begins to show itself. He makes the mask and begins some crusading against crime. "WE do this because we are compelled"

The little girl. when describing that case "Decided to intervene. Promised parents to return her unharmed"
He did have to break 15 peoples joints to get the information on her location. But upon finding out there's some interesting clues. "Disused dress makers in brooklyn"
A connection to Walter. Being his day job has been in the garment industry.
One peculiar point to notice, is that after he finds the butchering tools. And deduces poor Blaire has been fed to the dogs, he walks outside with the cleaver. THese viscous dogs who were previously fighting over what looked like her femur now turn to ROrschach, and look friendly. Viciousness reduced. Tongues out, friendly looks. Fo

... keep reading on reddit ➑

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When Lies Become Legend: The Brutal Murder of Kitty Genovese medium.com/the-bad-influe…
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TIL that the story of Kitty Genovese's murder being ignored by 38 people is a myth and the police were called twice. One woman even went down and held her after she was stabbed. The myth came due to the NYT's writer wanting a more dramatic story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mur…
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Kitty Genovese, whose murder in 1964 led to research into the Bystander Effect
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When Lies Become Legend: The Brutal Murder of Kitty Genovese medium.com/the-bad-influe…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Fit_Laugh9192
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Kitty Genovese in 1956 β€” eight years before she was stabbed to death in Queens [900 x 764]
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πŸ‘€︎ u/tented65
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A sleeping Kitty Genovese
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TIL that the infamous Kitty Genovese case that's often cited as an example of the bystander effect has been wildly exaggerated. The residents that heard her actually did call the police and a seventy year old woman went out to help her. Kitty Genovese died on her way to the hospital. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mur…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/IanMazgelis
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The Bystander Effect: Murder of Kitty Genovese. The New York Times published an article claiming that 38 witnesses saw or heard the attack, but none of them called the police or came to her aid. Why did no one help her? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M…
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The Witness (2015) Bill Genovese investigates the 1964 murder of his sister Kitty Genovese, a New York lesbian who was attacked while 38 people allegedly did nothing to help her. drive.google.com/file/d/1…
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Is it true that when more than 1 subject is around the scene where someone requires assistance just like in the Kitty Genovese case, assistance may not be given because of diffusion of responsibility?
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A Kitty Genovese-Type Killing in Chicago Hardly Registers: As a man was beaten to death, people drove and walked by. At least two stoppedβ€”to record the killing. thedailybeast.com/article…
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More details from the kitty genovese murder
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The Witness (2015) Bill Genovese investigates the 1964 murder of his sister Kitty Genovese, a New York lesbian who was attacked while 38 people allegedly did nothing to help her. drive.google.com/file/d/1…
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[REQUEST] The Screams of Kitty Genovese - Libretto

Thanks!!!

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πŸ‘€︎ u/md2376
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In what episode is the following said, "Nothing. No witnesses. Just a lot of listeners. It's the post Kitty Genovese era. No one wants to look they think they will get involved."
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Ben Shapiro claims Bernie Sanders would have sided with the USSR during World War II (LOL! What's next? "Sanders would not have called the police to stop Kitty Genovese's rape" or "Sanders would have killed Jesus, JFK & MLK, Jr. with his bare hands"?) mediamatters.org/ben-shap…
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TIL about The Bystander Effect, an apparent social phenomenon where individuals are less likely to intervene in an emergency situation if others are present, increasing on the number who are there. It was popularised after the 1964 Kitty Genovese case. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bys…
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The often missed story behind Kitty Genovese's murder (Psych 101 meets Pride Month)
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Kitty Genovese Murder Case Analysis & The Bystander Effect youtube.com/watch?v=bQrTJ…
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The murder of Kitty Genovese. The real life crime that inspired Rorshach to begin fighting crime. wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder…
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Kitty Genovese - new documentary on Netflix

Hi all,

I know this isn't an unsolved mystery (and hope this is still allowed here) but thought it may interest some of you!

A new documentary on Netflix (UK anyway) about Kitty Genovese but instead of focusing on her death, it's more about her life and also the phenomenon of the 38 and how that might not be entirely true!

A good watch, I learnt a lot about the case that I had never known before!

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[US] The Witness (2015) - Documentary about the brother of Kitty Genovese, and his search for the truth about her murder. netflix.com/title/8009689…
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IsItBullshit: despite being held up as a quintessential example of the bystander effect, Kitty Genovese's murder is actually not the best example because her neighbors didn't realize she was being stabbed
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TIL the of murder of Kitty Genovese, murdered in 1964 around an 'apparent' 37 witnesses who stood by an didn't act. One criticism was the lack of a recognisable emergency number, and 911 was born. wnyc.org/story/kitty-geno…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/emailrob
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The "Kitty Genovese" effect. do you know any other cases where a crime happened in broad daylight with witnesses and nobody did anything?

Just like the title says, are you aware of any other case similar to the Kitty Genovese murder where a crime was committed that could have been topped in front of witnesses and nobody ended up doing anything?

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