1 And concerning the Eucharist, hold Eucharist thus: 2 First concerning the Cup, "We give thanks to thee, our Father, for the Holy Vine of David thy child, which, thou didst make known to us through Jesus thy child; to thee be glory for ever." 3 And concerning the broken Bread: "We give thee thanks, our Father, for the life and knowledge which thou didst make known to us through Jesus thy Child. To thee be glory for ever.
4 As this broken bread was scattered upon the mountains, but was brought together and became one, so let thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into thy Kingdom, for thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever."
Or are the rites around things like baptism part of the Liturgy.
Outside the confines of a Mass for example.
Hi all,
I'm a Catholic living in Berlin and am considering converting to the Evangelical Church of Germany (EKD), the mainline Lutheran denomination here (actually, it's a united church consisting of Reformed parishes too, but in Berlin they're mainly Lutheran).
However, I'm really struggling with the liturgy that I've experienced here. The services I've attended barely seem to emphasise the sacramental nature of Christian worship or the Eucharist. There is no sense of liturgical drama, or a sense that a sacred / sacramental event is unfolding. Is this normal? Or is this just something that has become common in Germany?
Secondly, I am uncomfortable with the absence of a Eucharistic Prayer in German Lutheran services. On Sunday, after the Preface and Sanctus, the pastor went directly into the Words of Institution. There was no prior Offertory, or anything I could identify as an Epiklesis or Anaphora. Today I attended a weekday Holy Communion services where the pastor just introduced the service with some general prayers, and then went straight into the Words of Institution, without even a Preface or Sanctus or... anything, really. All over in 10-15 minutes.
As a Catholic I developed a very Eucharistic spirituality, where the sacrament for me is extremely important, and I fear that I could never adjust happily to this absence of sacramentality in the EKD.
I don't get it. I thought Lutheranism was relatively 'high church' and preserved the traditional western liturgy and reverence for the Eucharist. What I'm seeing in Berlin, though, seems to be very non-sacramental aside from the Words of Institution. Can someone explain to me what's going on here?
Thanks!
I'm a latin-rite Catholic, but today I attended a Divine Liturgy at a Ruthenian parish. I was in one of the first pews in front, and during Holy Communion - just a few feet away from me - I saw a toddler remove the Eucharist from his mouth after receiving. I was shocked and almost went up to him to make sure that he consumed Our Lord - and I feel a little guilty that I didn't, but instead I stood there anxiously, and saw him walk off, never seeing him consume the Sacred Species.
I walked to the back of the church where his family was and informed his mother. She thanked me for letting her know and later told me that he said that he put the Eucharist back in his mouth - she said that she was going to have a talk with him when they got home. She says that he's never done this, and thinks that he received a Host with crust. After the Liturgy, I went up to the front to make sure that there were no fragments of the Host or drops of the Precious Blood on the ground where I saw the child take the Lord out of his mouth.
Being a Latin Catholic, I don't have experience with young children inadvertently being irreverent with our Eucharistic Lord.
Was there something that I could have done better, and what would you do in this situation? How should I handle this in the future if I witness something similar?
An Orthodox account on twitter said there is a Liturgy used in Greece in which this occurs, I can't seem to find anything about such a Liturgy, and as it is an old-ish tweet I don't want to just reply to ask, so I was wondering if any here had heard of the Liturgy
Random question I know but just something Ive been curious about lately
The Catholic church allows Catholics to receive the Eucharist in situations where you may not be able to find a Catholic church. If a Catholic came to a church in Eastern Europe could they receive Communion in an Orthodox church? Would a priest be willing (assuming the Catholic talked with them before Liturgy)? Also, if yes, could they do Reconciliation/Confession?
Also, could an Orthodox Christian receive any Sacraments/Mysteries at a Catholic church if there was no other option available (Catholic Closed-communion is open to Christian Orthodox from the Catholic end as far as I know)?
Half of the things I find, whether in the library or on the internet already assume that the reader has a fairly decent knowledge about the topic. Since I do not, i would really appreciate some help. Here's the link that is currently not making sense to me. http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/liturgical_renewal.htm Thank you very much
I was wondering, could an agnostic potentially find a home in the Episcopal church? What about people who do not believe in certain fundamentals of the average Christian would believe in? Such as not believing in Trinity?
I don't know what I believe. But I do love Episcopal services because they remind me of my Catholic upbringing
hello i (15f) am a catholic but i plan on switching denominations. my episcopalian grandpa died this morning and i am attending a 10:00 am mass at the episcopal church down the street from me tomorrow. is there anything i should know or learn before attending? any advice is helpful please ππ
