Ashkenazim Puns

I was raised with the Yiddish words in playing dreidel- nisht, gantz, halb, and shtel areyn

Obviously, only ashkenazim historically speak Yiddish, so what do the rest of you do? Are there ladino words for it? Do y’all even gamble for chocolate? It only recently occurred to me that there needs to be better representation for this specifically.

EDIT: Thank you everyone, I’m going to start framing this as an ashki tradition instead of Jewish. Glad y’all came with the knowledge!

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Personally, i do not feel european or ashkenazim. I do not accept when someone call me an european jew. I am a jew that lives in Europe because of diaspora. It’s funny, we were never considered white or european, and now people are calling us european jew or ashkenazim… lol

A common issue is with the mistaken belief that there are a lot of “Europeans” in Israel. So how do you feel about Jews from the Arab world?

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Many Ashkenazi families have traditions of Sephardic ancestry. Are they true and, if not, what is their origin? David Mendoza and Ton Tielen explore why some Ashkenazi families have the belief of Sephardic origins, and review the claims. What do the archives tell us about Sephardim living amongst Ashkenazim in central and eastern Europe? What about DNA and stories passed down to families? We review the evidence.

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Several Hassidic dynasties claim Sephardic ancestors. Is the SLONIK family descended from King David, via ABARBANEL? What about the claims of ordinary families? How about the MENDELEVITCH family from Poland which has a tradition of MENDOZA ancestry? Is the TALALAY surname in Belarus of Slavic origin or imported from Catalonia? Are claims of Sephardic ancestry true, fabricated, or misremembered? Join us for an entertaining discussion.

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Hi all,

I wanted to ask if any of you heard this before:

In camp, a Rabbi was giving a speech and said that the reason that so many Ashkenazim died during the Holocaust, and Sephardim didn't, is because the Sephardim don't talk during Davening!

Aside from being completely insane, it's also really historically illiterate and completely ignores the Greek jewish community that was massacred. I guess this Rabbi never heard of the huge community in Salonica/Thessaloniki that was destroyed.

I am wondering if anyone else have heard this Ashkenormative nonsense before.

Is there discrimination against Mizrahi Jews in Israel?

And what about Sephardim?

Heim eventually fled to Egypt after being pursued by Simon Wiesenthal, where, under the name of Dr. Youssef Ibrahim, he published antisemetic letters comparing Jews to Nazis, detailing how Ashkenazi "Khazars" control the government in the US and were committing genocide against Arabs in Palestine.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/documents/from-the-briefcase-of-aribert-heim

My great-grandfather, who passed away before I was born, survived Buchenwald, where Heim worked for a bit before murdering thousands more in Mauthausen. My great-grandfather never spoke of his experiences, but my great grandmother made Shoah tapes of what she went through in Teresen.

Thanks.

Hi all! I'm an Ashkenazim artist, and I'd like to start making distinctly Jewish art. My family came from Ukraine (USSR at the time), but I grew up fairly secular, which is part of what is making this difficult for me in terms of familiarity. I was looking up traditional/folk clothing for Ashkenazim, and found very few results. Most results pointed to Sepharidim and Moroccan Jews instead (who have beautiful costumes, but I don't want to appropriate). Can anyone provide me with insight? Would Jews living in Eastern Europe have dressed similar to how Chassidim dress, or more like goyische Eastern European dress? I know this is a super niche question, but this was the broadest subreddit I could think of posting this question in. Thank you so much in advance!

I have compiled a series of sources for people who constantly face the accusations that they’re “white colonisers”, “fake Hebrews” and the like. Feel free to use them in aiding your arguments. Stay strong hommies 👌🏽

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm

http://ashkenazim.weebly.com/gallery.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-diaspora

Question inspired by this post; I'm specifying non-German Ashkenazim because (from what I've seen), the German Jewish community, much like the various Sephardic ones have strongly identified with a country. Generally, when it comes to other Ashkenazim, country is not really linked with Judaism as much as it is with accidents of history.

This is all based on casual conversation, as I'm not as familiar with Ashkenazi Judaism. The impression I get is that when we talk about German, Portuguese, Moroccan, Syrian, Yemenite, Italian, etc, you can get a complete picture of Judaism (minhagim, tefilloth, etc). "Russian" (as an example) doesn't seem to do that.

I hope I'm actually making sense.

Hey, i'm and Israeli druze, and I have recently been learning about racial differences between Jews.

What are some main cultural differences really?

TO THE KITNIYOT LIBERATION FRONT

This movement is dedicated to liberating all Jews who wish to be free of this questionable custom (made by rabbis who hate beans) that causes needless divisions between families and friends.

The Shaarei Teshuva (HaRav Chaim Mordechai Margoliyot) clearly ruled that coffee beans are Kitniyot. This was hushed up by expensive PR agents on behalf of Maxwell House. If you drink coffee, you are already a member of the Kitniyot Liberation Front. All you have to do is accept it and proceed with consistency.

You can either continue being a kitniPHOBE or join us and become kitniWOKE and give peas a chance.

They both emigrated to Europe around the same time and mostly inhabited the same areas (albeit with Jews being slightly more northeast skewed and Romani southeast skewed).

While one was usually negatively associated with swindling and poverty, the other was largely associated with tax collecting and peddling (though negatively as well).

Another possible (but ironically counterproductive) factor is religion which seeing as though most Romani are not Hindu, you'd expect them to not have much reason to hold onto a language they have no religious obligation to.

The last factor that could perhaps shed light on this would be the wide-scale enslavement of the Romani. Maybe this level of segregation helped them keep their language alive?

Is it anti-semitism? Islamaphobia? Arabphobia?

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For those who don't know these are excerpts from Alliance. An Ashkenazi initiative designed to uplift and support poor Sepharadi Jews throughout the Middle East. They were stationed in Iran, Iraq, India, Egypt, and the list goes on... My own family went to such a school to learn math, French, and apparently how to erase their "Eastern tendencies."

This question is not about descrediting Ashkenazim or questioning their legitimacy or starting some sort of anti-semitic rant.

But on another thread someone made the claim that genetic studies had proven that Ashkenazim are more levatine (or more specifically Lebanese) than they are European genetically.

I've heard versions of this claim many time, except you can swap out Lebanese for Italian, etc. But when I've read DNA/Genetic studies the only conclusion I've seen is that Ashkenazim definitely have non European markers and those markers are relates to semitic groups, but haven't seen a statement that MOST of their genetics are tied to these semitic groups.

Does anyone have any research articles that show Ashkenazim are more semitic than they are European?

I’m a new immigrant to Israel, coming from America, where every Jew in my community is Ashkenazi. When heritage/family comes up in discussion here in Israel, and I say that I am Ashkenazi (Polish, Hungarian), many people are shocked, and say that I look Sephardi, which really surprises me. All of my grandparents are Eastern European Yiddish speaking Jews, and as far as I know, have no family members anywhere else. To me, I just look like any other American Jew.

If I saw two average Israelis, and had to pick which one was Polish and which was Moroccan, I really wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Is the difference just a perception that middle eastern Jews look a bit more tan? The color of my skin changes throughout the year, depending how much sun I get. From my experience, how tan the skin is has no correlation to somebody’s family origin, as I have met many dark tan Russians, and Yemenis who are more pale don’t look any different from me. What’s the difference?

Except for the obvious exception of Ethiopian Jews, and some Jews who look very ‘middle eastern’ and some blonde haired Jews, I really think mostly all people here just look ‘Jewish’ (whatever that means).

Is differences between the looks of Ashkenazi/Sephardi/Mizrahi Jews something that you pick up from growing up here, and seeing the Jews from different origins your whole life? Because I really don’t see much of a difference in looks.

Obviously there is differences in culture between Jewish groups, like food, customs, and religious traditions. But the physical appearance of different Jews seems to be all similar and indistinguishable to me.

Its a bit uncomfortable bringing this up, and it dosen’t really even matter because we are all one people and it dosen’t matter what we look like, but people keep keep mentioning differences between Jewish groups, and pointing out differences in looks which I cannot see.

Here’s an example of a conversation I heard:

“Where is your family from?”

“Persia”

“Oh, well you don’t look very Persian!” (Friendly laughter)

Sorry for all of this rambling, and sorry if anything I said was offensive to anybody. I’m just trying to figure this all out. Thanks!

sorry for bad title and bad english, new to it. im from israel, grew up in a mizrahi area but even ashkenazim i know see me as part of the tribe. in america however, i encounter some who tell me the idea we are part of one nation is a lie. they say i believe same things the nazis do, that jews are a race. that i am arab they are european and we just believe same religion. where does this come from? i love ashkenazim, but all it means is there ancestors were taken to ashkenaz. my ancestors stayed in the east, so they are mizrahi. jews who went to kush, created kingdoms became royalty are beta israel. this is the history i was taught, do some really believe we aren’t connected? :(

again sorry for this post I love all my jewish brothers and sisters stay safe!

I was recently reading Da Pian Del Carpine Giovanni's "The story of the Mongols whom we call the Tartar"s and the way the author refers to the tartars, their plans and strategies to succeed are highly simmilar to recent authors (past 2 centuries) who wrote about the ashkenazi elite and their agenda for our present.

I'm now looking for some material explaining whether or to which level the tartars and the ashkenazi elite are associated.

Thanks in advance.

(Background: My mom and her family are from Iran, my dad's family is secular Ashkenazi. All of the Jewish holidays and traditions in my life have been done the Persian way)

I know that Ashkenazim and Sefardim have many opinions about each other and their traditions, but I'm wondering what some of you think about Persian Jewry. It's kind of weird that most Persians share their synagogues with Ashkenazis or Sefardis yet they celebrate holidays and do things quite differently. Any thoughts?

From the medical industry and circumcision, to the financial industry and banking, to the media industry and hollywood, to politics and foreing israeli/jewish lobbies, the list goes on. I am not even hating on Jews, but rather noticing a trend. Jews in power tend to be very influential towards Jewish interests, more so than other races that are american citizens. It is really interesting, and can arise a lot of conspiracy theories, some of which may or may not have validity to them. It is just a really interesting analyzation.

That is, when did these different Jewish groups become seen as distinct, either by historians, by themselves, whoever?