I recently read that the Europoid people were indigenous to the area, and later on, they were speaking an IE language. Initially, they were NOT speaking an IE language.
I can’t find any information regarding strontium testing on the teeth of these mummies? Anybody know where I might find it?
L5209 & L5213 are R1b-PH155
11KBM1 is most likely R1b-PH155 or predecessor
All three dated to be 1800-2000 BCE
All three have NO known supposed Indo-European admixture
So R1b-PH155 is autochthonous to the region and has survived on the steppes of Central Asian for over 4000 years!
This is my lineage!
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211027121943.htm
These mummies are dated 2,000 BCE to 200 CE. They have attracted attention because of their well-preserved, "European appearance" and red/blond/other hair, unusual for their locale.
" from thirteen of the earliest known Tarim Basin mummies, dating to circa 2,100 to 1,700 BCE, together with five individuals dating to circa 3,000 to 2,800 BCE in the neighboring Dzungarian Basin. "
" To their great surprise, the researchers found that the Tarim Basin mummies were not newcomers to the region at all, but rather appear to be direct descendants of a once widespread Pleistocene population that had largely disappeared by the end of the last Ice Age. This population, known as the Ancient North Eurasians (ANE), survives only fractionally in the genomes of present-day populations, with Indigenous populations in Siberia and the Americas having the highest known proportions, at about 40 percent. "
This ANE population in the Tarim Basin descended from a population that was extant before the European-Asian split & related to the Siberian ancestors of Native Americans, which largely disappeared by end of the Ice Age. (The last genetic link to either population, though. would be 35-40K years ago.)
They are show no admixture with any other Holocene groups and underwent a population bottleneck before settling there. Interestingly, they wore felted and woven woolen clothing, and their agropastoral economy that included cattle, sheep and goat, wheat, barley, millet, and even kefir cheese so they had cultural exchange and learned/taught.
" Despite being genetically isolated, the Bronze Age peoples of the Tarim Basin were remarkably culturally cosmopolitan—they built their cuisine around wheat and dairy from the West Asia, millet from East Asia, and medicinal plants like Ephedra from Central Asia," "
However, the five individuals from the Dzungarian basin also sampled are indeed related to the Yamnaya people, (linked to the Indo-European peoples who moved to Europe and intermixed and replaced the native populations there.) They are descended from Afanasievo herders."The genetic characterization of the Early Bronze Age Dzungarians also helped to clarify the ancestry of other pastoralist groups known as the Chemurchek, who later spread northwards to the Altai mountains and into Mongolia. Chemurchek groups appear to be th
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> Buried in boats in the northwestern deserted region of China, the surprisingly intact mummies date back to 2100 and 1700 BC. They have divided archeologists over the nature of their origin being strikingly distinct from the wider region.
> Whether they are Bronze Age remains of migrants coming from thousands of kilometers to the west, or local to the region, are points that have been proposed until the present.
> Geneticists at Seoul National University, in a recent study, have finally been able to answer who the people of the Xiaohe were, who disappeared thousands of years ago.
> The genetic analysis gave a discouraging result - not only did these people not mix with other peoples, they generally lived in isolation for at least 7000 years straight.
> This is despite the fact that the Tarim Basin was inhabited as early as 40,000 years ago, and the region itself lies at the crossroads of ancient caravan routes.
> While the study provides the strongest case as of yet, it only looked at a single site, and further research into the wider region may provide other points of contention.
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https://www.inverse.com/science/tarim-basin-mummies-boat-coffins-genetics
Buried in bright clothes and laid to rest in boat-shaped coffins, a group of peculiar mummies in northwest China has puzzled scientists since their discovery a century ago. New genetic analysis shows the group was genetically isolated from their neighbors, but mingled a lot with other cultural groups.
Basically as the question asks, I am interested in when /how this practice became labeled as counter culture as it is seen and theorized to be used quite prominently in ancient cultures. When was the fall out with the practice? Why was the fallout? Many thanks!
There was a recent paper saying that they were direct descendants of the Ancient North Eurasians with little to no admixture from other populations.
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https://evolvera.tech/2021/10/31/geneticists-have-finally-uncovered-the-mystery-of-the-tarim-mummies/
