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πŸ‘€︎ u/EggoSlayer
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Why does Rocket Lake get so much hate?

I am confused why Rocket Lake especially upon release was written off largely by the tech community. Yes, it was a 14nm backport of their newer architecture but still I guess I don't get why the reviews made it out to be such an awful lineup from Intel.

Here we are months later, and I guess I see no issue with the processor or feel I lack for anything over Alderlake, as the overhead of this processor is simply still so vast at least for my purpose of 1440p gaming.

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Source-Vast
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Rocket Lake | Arch + Win11 + Monterey. Nobody can say I'm a fanboy of anything now x) reddit.com/gallery/qru2gd
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Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Up To 50% Faster Than Ryzen 5 5600X, Blows Away The Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K Flagship In Leaked Benchmarks

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i5-12600k-cpu-faster-than-ryzen-5-5600x-blows-away-rocket-lake-core-i9-11900k-leaked-benchmarks/

Another round of leaked benchmarks for the Intel Core i5-12600K CPU have appeared just weeks before its official reviews & they show some amazing performance numbers.

The performance benchmarks show the Intel Core i5-12600K blasting up the single-core test with a score of 773 points and the multi-core test with 7220 points. This puts the Core i5 Alder Lake at a massive 50% lead over the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X and even faster than AMD's 8 core and 16 thread Ryzen 7 5800X which is very impressive. Versus the leaked Core i5-12400 benchmarks, the Core i5-12600K offers a 45% increase in multi-threaded performance which means that those E-cores are being used properly plus the higher clock speeds really push the performance even further. Even Intel's Rocket Lake flagship couldn't keep up with the new Core i5 chip which ends up 13% faster in single and 10% faster in the multi-core tests.

The Intel Core i5-12600K beats the Rocket Lake flagship, the Core i9-11900K, with ease and it shows that Intel is seriously going to give AMD a tough time in the mainstream segment if these numbers are to be believed. We are just a few weeks away from the NDA lift and the Core i5-12600K is going to be one chip that many consumers, especially gamers, are going to be interested in.

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Issue with QuickSync on Rocket Lake inside Debian 11 Proxmox LXC

Hi all,

I have been troubleshooting getting hardware acceleration to work with Jellyfin within a Proxmox LXC and a i5-11600K . I have followed the directions here: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/hardware-acceleration.html

I have installed the intel-media-va-driver-non-free on both the proxmox host and within the container, I am using jellyfin-ffmpeg 4.4.1 as well. All the permissions seem correct, jellyfin is part of the video ,render, and input groups and has access to what is listed in /dev/dri

I am getting an non-helpful error when I try to playback a video in my browser. You can see the output here: https://pastebin.com/raw/eHE2cmRZ

I tried in Firefox, Chrome, and Safari on my phone. It is not clear why it is failing, so I am hoping someone here can help me troubleshoot this. Has anyone ran into this or can make sense of the error?

Happy to provide additional details as needed.

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[CPU] *MC* Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 3.6GHz Eight-Core LGA 1200 Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - $269.99($519 - $250) (Microcenter In Store Only) microcenter.com/product/6…
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"The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled."

I got this message on a pc builder site when I was trying to add a motherboard to my build specs. I don't really understand what it means so I don't know if I can ignore it.

The specs for the processor is Intel Core i9 10900K. The MOBO is..... well.... that's the problem, I don't know which MOBO to choose that won't throw up an exception.

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Leaked Core i5-12400F benchmarks show Intel's budget Alder Lake dominating the Ryzen 5 5600X and Rocket Lake i7-11700K in gaming benchmarks notebookcheck.net/Leaked-…
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Upgrading from Haswell - Comet Lake or Rocket Lake?

I'd like to start the thread by saying I'm not interested in Alder Lake, and that's primarily due to me having an existing aftermarket cooler (Arctic Freezer i11) I'd like to use on my CPU and the general availability of Alder Lake hardware in my area, but anyway...

I currently have an Intel Xeon E3-1241v3 and it's still serving me well even today. I'm looking to upgrade to an LGA 1200 platform but I don't know which I should choose: Comet Lake or Rocket Lake. My budget is only $180 allocated for the CPU but I have a $25 off coupon to a local shop near me that sells said hardware. Accounting for the coupon, these would be the prices of the CPUs:

  • i3-10100F - $65
  • i3-10105F - $65
  • i3-10100T - $75
  • i5-10400 - $125
  • i5-10500 - $140
  • i5-11400F - $150

Essentially this is a decision between the 10th Gen Comet Lake CPUs and the single 11th Gen Rocket Lake CPU, since they fit within my budget. What's causing me to contemplate is the following things I've heard about Rocket Lake:

  • Supposedly, the IPC from Comet Lake to Rocket Lake is slightly better
  • Rocket Lake features AVX-512, which I'm not sure if it matters to my application (since Intel is disabling it with Alder Lake); more details about that down below
  • Purchasing a Rocket Lake CPU would enable PCI-E 4.0 support (I think? I know it's not possible with Comet Lake CPUs and chipsets)

As for the type of things I do on my computer:

  • I work with StaxRip for professional video encoding (VapourSynth filters in combination with both x264 and x265 encoders)
  • I like to emulate various game platforms (the newest platform I emulate would be the Nintendo Switch; not interested in PS3 but would be open to the Xbox 360 since I have yet to try it)
  • I don't run PC games at frame rates above my monitor's refresh rate of 60hz; Vsync is always on whenever possible
  • I don't do overclocking

Right now, the Core i3s are looking like a great stopgap value solution until I get more of a budget for a better CPU (possibly a Core i7 down the road), since they have four cores with eight threads at high clock speeds. The Core i5 CPUs, however, have six cores and 12 threads, which would be very beneficiary for my video encoding work. And whether or not the difference between Comet Lake and Rocket Lake is worth paying the few extra dollars for- I'm just not sure. The price difference could buy me a cheap cache SSD to fit in my build.

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[CPU] Intel Core i5-11400 Rocket Lake 2.6GHz Six-Core LGA 1200 Desktop Processor - $159.99 Micro Center Only microcenter.com/product/6…
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RAM OC disappointed with Rocket Lake compare to Comet Lake

I just upgrade my i3 10105f to i5 11400f and hope for a push in performance.

I replaced the new CPU and just found the disappointment.

Mobo: MSI B560M Bazooka

Ram: 16GB (2x8) Adata XPG Spectrix D41 RGB (B-die A3)

VCCSA - VCCIO: 1.15

DRAM Voltage: 1.38

- i3 10105f: Can stable at 3833Mhz 16 - 16 - 16 - 32 - 300 - 6000 and the latency is sweet at 41.1ns

- i5 11400f: Could not stable at even 3733 G1. G2 add 10ns in latency is so ridiculous. It could only stable at 3600Mhz 14 - 14 - 14 - 28 - 300 - 6000. Even the boosts in copy and write speed are good but the latency is worse at 46.8ns. (theoretically, 3600C14 will have better latency compare to 3833C16)

Photo for AIDA result: https://imgur.com/a/f2g58FO

So the point here, since I just focus in latency before, Could anyone enlighten me if they are equal or Rocket lake is worse at OC ram than Comet Lake?

If it's worse, I will try to throw 11400f and buy a 10400f to live with the best OC RAM I could get.

I'm mostly do gaming and just see some compare test in games and i5 10400f is better than 11400f at high bus RAM.

Thanks.

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Intel Core i5-12400: Entry-level Alder Lake processor stands toe to toe with a flagship Rocket Lake CPU notebookcheck.net/Intel-C…
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Full passthrough / GVT-d of 11th gen iGPU (Rocket Lake) to Windows 10 guest - logging my attempt.

I've been trying to pass through the iGPU on an i9-11900 (intel UHD 750 graphics) with QEMU/KVM to a Windows 10 guest with limited success. Seen some other related attempts but thought I may as well describe what I've tried. If you're on an 11th gen intel processor and have successfully passed the iGPU through to Windows, I'd like to know about it! As I've tried everything I can think of...

Misc info:

  • Using KVM/QEMU with virt-manager
  • Host kernel: 5.11.0-40-generic (Ubuntu 20.04)
  • Using the following host kernel params: "intel_iommu=on iommu=pt kvm.ignore_msrs=1 video=efifb:off vfio-pci.ids=8086:4c8a". Most of them other than "intel_iommu=on" don't really seem to change anything, though.

My findings:

  • Linux guests work perfectly with passthrough, full control of iGPU, no issues
  • Windows initially boots with passthrough, before graphics drivers are installed
  • Updating Windows graphics drivers to the latest version (30.0.101.1069) appears to work, until reboot, and you find it causes boot to fail (blue screen driver error message)
  • Removing passthrough and uninstalling intel driver in device manager allows boot again (have to show hidden devices)
  • Installing older driver versions makes boot work again (27.20.100.9466 or older seems to work)
  • However, the dreaded code 43 appears on reboot

Things I've tried to get rid of code 43

  • Tried Q35 in UEFI and BIOS boot (also with modified vbios)
  • Tried i440FX with BIOS boot
  • hidden state='on' in libvirt XML
  • Toggling the GPU disabled/enabled in device manager as suggested by some guy which actually does get rid of 43 (but the device doesn't actually work and it comes back on reboot)
  • Tried OEM supplied drivers (DELL), same as latest version (no boot)
  • Tried with both displayport cable plugged or not plugged into iGPU

Conclusion

It don't work >:(

Can't try GVT-g out as that's been removed in 11th gen, which is perhaps related to why GVT-d doesn't work? It (GVT-d) works fine in Linux guests though..

Seems like an update to the Windows

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[CPU] Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 3.6GHz Eight-Core LGA 1200 Boxed Processor - Heatsink Not Included - $299.99 ($519.99-$220) (Microcenter in-store) microcenter.com/product/6…
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Rocket lake vs comet lake - looking at an upgrade

I had recently posted to another sub and had some comet lake cpus recommended to me, but I noticed there'd be an m2 compatibility issue for one port with the motherboard, so I thought "why not get rocket lake?"

Found the rocket lake i5 is slightly cheaper than the comet lake i7 and on online benchmarks seems to run a bit better, so I was thinking that one.

In trying to google if there were any issues with current gen, I only find late 2020 articles and early 2021 ones that didn't seem favorable, but this is a lot of time for things to have been ironed out.

So I'm looking for your folks' read on it. Are there any reasons why I wouldn't want to consider current gen and should stick to previous gen?

Edit: It doesn't look like Alder Lake is compatible with the rest of my build, https://pcpartpicker.com/user/cthon98/saved/vRkQzy so please stop insisting I go Alder Lake. I'm not financially in a place where I can replace the entire thing.

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Safe VCCIO2 for Rocket Lake?

What is exactly safe VCCIO2 voltage limit for Rocket Lake CPUs in Gear 1 mode?

Gear modes were introduced with RKL and I've read that they handle voltage much better than the previous generations. So maybe old recommendations don't apply here. And Gear 1 mode really needs more VCCSA and VCCIO which I noticed when I came from the Z390 platform. Running the RAM at the same speed requires more juice.

I can run my RAM at 3466-16-19-19-36 with 1.25V VCCIO2. 3600-16-20-20-36 is possible with 1.32V. In short, VCCIO seems to have a big impact on timings. Increasing it further allows for tighter timings and lowering it causes cold boot issues. My motherboard is MSI Mag B560 Torpedo and VCCSA is set to 1.2V since it doesn't seem to affect anything. CPU is i7-11700F.

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An F4U Corsair test fires a 11.75 inch Tiny Tim air-to-surface rocket at the NOTS (Naval Ordinance Test Station) at China Lake, CA some time in 1945 or 1946. v.redd.it/85pam2u0a0z71
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πŸ‘€︎ u/regian24
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Rocket lake 2: Electric boogaloo
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Help thwart the plan to build a rocket launch site right on the shore of pristine Lake Superior (10% of the world's fresh surface water), right in the heart of beautiful Upper Peninsula Michigan! Visit www.stoptherocket.com

I recently visited Upper Peninsula Michigan and was very alarmed to learn of a planned rocket launch site right on the shore of Lake Superior. The UP is one of the last unspoiled natural areas in the United States – there is forest as far as the eye can see, with amazing hikes, waterfalls, clean rivers all around. Lake Superior – the larges of the Great Lakes – is so clean you can actually drink straight from it. Comprising 10% of the world's freshwater, Lake Superior is the largest source of potable surface water in the world, and it supplies towns in Michigan, Minnesota, and Canada.

It's not hard to understand how a rocket malfunctioning, exploding, and falling into the lake (a common occurrence) would contaminate the water not just for humans, but for plants and animals as well. There is also the potential for the improper disposal of chemicals and fuels. Rocket launches will create massive shockwaves, disrupting the inhabitants of the area. This is a place people come to hike, to immerse themselves in nature, to find some much needed peace and quiet – a rocket launch is the exact opposite of this. Furthermore, local families will have to be evacuated every launch, because the risk of a rocket veering off course is too large. And at least 50 acres of deforestation will be necessary – but likely much more.

Like all such projects, the so-called "spaceport" is being touted by certain politicians and businesspeople for its potential to create jobs – as if there are rocket technicians just hanging around in the Upper Peninsula, looking for work? Yeah right. The same as always, some jobs will be created during the initial construction of the site, but after that, experts will be flown in from elsewhere, doing little to stimulate the local economy. Meanwhile, the eco-tourism industry will be stifled.

Finally, there are already spaceports in multiple sites around the world which are being underused. These sites could very easily increase productivity and not require new construction elsewhere. (The purpose of the rockets is to place 5G satellites in orbit – is faster internet really more important than clean water, safety, and natural habitat?)

The idea of building a rocket launch site in the middle of such a pristine area, and on the shore of one of the last clean water sources available, is like something out of a dystopian sci-fi film. Unfortunately, the plan is real – but there is still hope. The land itself has not yet been sold, and public hearings ar

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What if AMD is struggling with their 14nm+++++ zen 3 ryzen CPU while Intel is rocking 7nm+ Rocket Lake CPU?
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Rocket Lake [1920 x 1080]
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got an error on PCPartPicker "The motherboard M.2 slot #1 requires an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU. When an Intel Rocket Lake-based CPU is not used, the M.2 slot is disabled." what exactly does this mean?

The motherboard I was planning on purchasing is an "ASrock Z590 Pro4 ATX LGA1200" for my already purchased i7-10700k, this message came up to me and I tried to research it myself. I'm quite the layman and from what I'm understanding I can use them together but without an SSD, is this correct?

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[CPU] Intel Core i5-11400 - Core i5 11th Gen Rocket Lake 6-Core 2.6 GHz LGA 1200 65W Intel UHD Graphics 730 Desktop Processor - BX8070811400 - $199.99 newegg.com/intel-core-i5-…
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[CPU] Intel Core i5-11600K Rocket Lake 3.9GHz Six-Core LGA 1200 Boxed Processor - $219.99($319.99 - $100.00) microcenter.com/product/6…
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Bought 4 billboards on I-15 between Provo and Salt Lake City. $160 for four days- not even half a share of GME to fuel this rocket to Mars!
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Intel already practicing IHS manufacturing for Alder Lake - late and early Rocket Lake CPUs compared | igorΒ΄sLAB igorslab.de/en/intel-alre…
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Gorgeous view of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame set against Lake Erie sunset downtown Cleveland. The 36th Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction ceremony is taking place in Cleveland this weekend, although they moved it to the Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse this year.
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Upgrade to Rocket Lake or wait for Alder Lake?

Currently have a gaming rig with i7 7700 and GTX 1070 with 16GB RAM. System is nearly 5 years old. Looking to upgrade sometime in the next 2-16 months. I feel the "itch', but wonder if I'd be better served waiting.

Debating in getting 11900k with RTX 3080/3080ti/3090 now or waiting for Alder Lake 12900?

Current system is still usable, but it doesn't play games the way I'd like, in particular Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Would like to ultra/max out everything in 4K. For that particular game, I like to play for hours, so need something stable that will not crash.

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Alder Lake (and maybe rocket lake?) integrated graphics, Chrome hardware acceleration, buggy youtube playback at 1.5x speed? anyone?

with alder lake, I've noticed lately that with Chrome hardware acceleration enabled, when playing youtube videos sped up, they eventually bog down, stutter and stop because hardware acceleration bugs out. Internet bandwidth is plenty. Video stats show the network speed over 100mbps, but videos pretty much crash, requiring chrome reboot.

If I disable hardware acceleration in Chrome, then the videos don't bug out. Playback doesn't feel as smooth as hardware acceleration though (when it works)

Anyone else have similar issues with latest cpus and Youtube?

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Alder Lake Allegedly Commands 28% Higher Peak Current Than Rocket Lake | Tom's Hardware tomshardware.com/amp/news…
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Sunsation Rocket with a 502 skating with unknown, hitting high 80s. Lake St.Clair, Middle Channel v.redd.it/sz9took7vpm71
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Which is better with Rocket Lake: 14-14-14-34 3433 or 15-15-15-34 3600 both Gear 1?

4 x 8gb Trident Z bdie on a z490 motherboard and 11600k. Tested latency and the 3433 wins. Also tried 14-15-15-35 3600. So far on a hot day (ambient 30 C) 3433 maxxed at 39 C under full load, other 2 both went to 42/43 C. All 3 are stable. Tried 14-14-14-34 3600 and really think that my motherboard might be holding me back (MSI z490-A-Pro).

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Arch Linux, Clear Linux & Ubuntu Against Windows 10/11 On Intel Rocket Lake phoronix.com/scan.php?pag…
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Intel Core i5-12600K CPU Up To 50% Faster Than Ryzen 5 5600X, Blows Away The Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K Flagship In Leaked Benchmarks

For all the AMD / Nvidia fanboys, tech specs are here. Cant just endlessly say Intel is terrible.

https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i5-12600k-cpu-faster-than-ryzen-5-5600x-blows-away-rocket-lake-core-i9-11900k-leaked-benchmarks/

>The performance benchmarks show the Intel Core i5-12600K blasting up the single-core test with a score of 773 points and the multi-core test with 7220 points. This puts the Core i5 Alder Lake at a massive 50% lead over the AMD Ryzen 5 5600X and even faster than AMD's 8 core and 16 thread Ryzen 7 5800X which is very impressive. Versus the leaked Core i5-12400 benchmarks, the Core i5-12600K offers a 45% increase in multi-threaded performance which means that those E-cores are being used properly plus the higher clock speeds really push the performance even further. Even Intel's Rocket Lake flagship couldn't keep up with the new Core i5 chip which ends up 13% faster in single and 10% faster in the multi-core tests.

>Now think about it this way, you are essentially getting slightly better performance than the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, a $400 US+ chip, in a processor that costs $30 US lower than the Ryzen 5 5600X. It sounds like an absolutely phenomenal deal. Obviously, there are a few drawbacks which include investing in a brand new platform and migrating to a new OS platform (Windows 11 in this case) which would raise the cost and effort but if you set your mind aside from these short-term concerns, the Core i5-12600K could end up serving you far better performance at an insane value proposition. Furthermore, it is also stated that owing to the 12600K being segmented in the Core i5 lineup, its power consumption and thermals won't be as rampant as the high-end models.

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