Puranic chronology Puns

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Myth: Vikramaditya never existed, he’s just a legendary ruler based on Chandragupta II; there is no epigraphy or coinage issued by him, and he is not mentioned in the dynastic histories (vamsanucharita) of the Puranas.

Overcorrection: Vikramaditya not only existed, but became a world-emperor, ruling over the Middle East, Central Asia, Eastern Europe and Western China.

Truth: The Malavas of Ujjain won at least a defensive war against the Scythians c. 57 BC, possibly causing the destabilization of Scythian power back at Taxila. The Malava chief responsible for this feat may well have been named Vikrama.

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The Maurya-Gupta interregnum (180 BC – 250 AD), in particular the period 57 BC – 78 AD, was a giant mess when it comes to the history of North-Western India.

South India under the Satavahanas and North India under the Shungas and successive Magadhan dynasties prospered in this period under relatively stable Vedic governance. In the North-West, however, the situation could only be described as political chaos.

There is already confusion about the political history in the period of Greco-Bactrian invasions before 57 BC [1], and during the period of Scythian invasions, sovereignty was fuzzy and fluctuating, borders were non-constant or even ill-defined, and the chronology is highly uncertain. It would perhaps be most accurate to refer to the period as a complex multipartite war between the Greco-Bactrians, Scythians, Parthians, Yuezhi and local and imperial Indic states.

In the midst of all this chaos, there is one name that shines most brightly: Vikramaditya of Ujjain – who, as per traditional record, emerged victorious over the invaders and established a glorious golden age of prosperity and governance in accordance with Vedic laws. His victory over the Scythians c. 57 BC marks the epoch of the Vikrama Samvat, the traditional Hindu calendar – and his name was immortalized by history as a regal title, equivalent to “Caesar” in Europe or “Alexander” in Persia.

The purpose of this text is to reconstruct a precise history of the period between 57 BC – 78 AD based on the primary sources available to us.

If you’re unfamiliar with the historical context, read the background chapters first.

Table of contents

• Historicity of Vikramaditya
• Reconstructing the period 57 BC – 78 AD
• Aftermath: 78 – 250
• Background: start of the barbarian invasions
• Background: 180 – 57 BC

Historicity of Vikramaditya

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Do your worst!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycmC9oj8M2Y

https://www.academia.edu/27780697/The_Chronology_of_Ancient_India_Victim_of_Concoctions_and_Distortions_by_Vedveer_Arya

https://dokumen.pub/the-chronology-of-india-from-manu-to-mahabharata-8194321301.html

https://dokumen.pub/the-chronology-of-india-from-mahabharata-to-medieval-era-1-8194321336.html

https://dokumen.pub/the-chronology-of-india-from-mahabharata-to-medieval-era-2-8194321352.html

Everyone should at least take a look at this material to get a idea of the sheer antiquity of Indic Civilization. This work corroborates the Traditional, Long Chronology of Indic civilization, and debunks the short chronology given concocted by western historians.

Vedveer Arya's work is tremendously detailed and indepth. He has done research worth decades in only a few years. Of course there may be errors in his chronology, due to the clashing works of different bharatiya scholars, but this work gives you a great idea, and must be read for beginners wanting to learn Indian history.

Vedveer Arya has solved the following problems which helps in corroborating the Puranic Long Chronology:

1. Fixing the birth date of Jesus at Jan 10th, 660 BCE, fixing the 660 year error in world history. This allows the chronology of the Greeks, Chinese, Persian and Islamic invaders to match up with Puranic Chronology.

2. Fixing the Saka era at 583 BCE and Salivahana era at 78 BCE. Before, both these eras were though to be the same, resulting in the deletion of 661 years from Indic history. Now with these two eras differentiated, the Puranic chronology is corroborated, and chronological inconsistencies cleared up.

3. Fixing the eras of Karttikadi Vikrama at 719 BCE and Chaitradi Vikrama at 57 BCE. Previously western historians thought these two eras were the same, creating chronological inconsistencies.

4. Fixing the date of Buddha Nirvana at 1864 BCE. This date perfectly reconciles the North and South Indian Buddhist chronologies. This date is corroborated by Burmese records, and the chinese Canton Dot Record, which has been moved back 660 years due to the error of the epoch of Jesus.

The clearing of misconceptions brought by western historians and fixing up errors in Indian historians by Vedveer Arya conclusively proves the Puranic Long Chronology of Indic civilization.

It really does, I swear!

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

They’re on standbi

Buenosdillas

Pilot on me!!

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

When I got home, they were still there.

I won't be doing that today!

You take away their little brooms

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

There hasn't been a post all year!

It’s pronounced “Noel.”

Why

After all his first name is No-vac

What, then, is Chinese rap?

Edit:

Notable mentions from the comments:

• Spanish/Swedish/Swiss/Serbian hits

• French/Finnish art

• Country/Canadian rap

• Chinese/Country/Canadian rock

• Turkish/Tunisian/Taiwanese rap

There hasn't been a single post this year!

(Happy 2022 from New Zealand)

Nothing, it just waved

Cherish those who seek the truth, but beware of those who find it - Voltaire

“Aryan Invasion Dogma”

“We still talk so much about AIT, That this AIT won’t go away” !!

The claim that Aryan came around 1500 BCE - 2000 BCE and they brought Sanskrit or precursor to sanskrit, that simply means all the civilisations which refer to Sanskrit based culture has to after that timeframe. If you’ve read the Mahabharata text carefully you must've noticed that there are quotes from Ramayana that make the chronology of Mahabhrata very difficult.

Review - This book is an attempt to view the Indus / Indic / Harappa / Saraswati valley civilization with respect of the Puranic legend supported with stray evidence (Stary evidence can be similarity between Sanskrit and European languages, Also Indic researcher has also taken archaeological evidence and astrology evidence) . The claims by the writer are based on F E Pargiter research, a judge of the Supreme Court at Calcutta. Pargiter spent thirty years digging deep and comparing texts, examined the King list of various Puranas and came up with his findings of the probable realistic lineages and called it Ancient Indian Historical Tradition.

Aryabhatta proposed that the dawn of an era started from 3102 BCE, writer has claims that 3152 BCE marks the year of first Puranic king i.e Sage Manu from the Kṛtayuga (Satya Yuga) which he refer to as Early Harappan Age (3152 BCE - 2522 BCE), Tretā-yuga as mature harappan age (2594 BCE - 2000 BCE) and Dvāpara-yuga as Late Harapan age (1982 BCE - 1460 BCE). Writer claims that Mahabharat happened in 1461 BCE he supports his claim by Kaliyuga Puranic King List which ends with Candragupta Maurya.

What I love about the book is how the writer has brought down the mythical part of the story.

Om Bhur Bhuvaḥ Suvaḥ ...

Where Bhu, Bhuvar Sva indicated the merging of the three distinct backgrounds. Three Lokas - Bhu-Loka (Hakra Culture), Bhuvar-Loka (Zhob Culture) and Svar-Loka (Kulli Culture). The traditional descriptions of the geographical features like rivers and mountains help us identify these Lõkas.or how pitr-loka could also mean the land of forefathers(from where they migrated to the subcontinent).or how Pitr-loka could also mean the land of forefathers.

Writer also talks about the Land of Black Barries, Jaṁbūdvīpē.

Bharatavarsē, Bharatakhande, Mērõrdakşiņadigbhāē (Mount Meru). And also narrated that Puranas belonged to the Kşatriya/Sūta tradition and so they tr

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So that I could frequently say, "I am going to walk 5 miles now."

Edit: My most popular post on Reddit! 😀 Thank you for the awards.

Just to clarify, 12345678

Me grabbing a soda from my (what I thought was) half full 12pk...

Notices there's only 2;

Me: "Awe man... This is a damn bird box!" Her: "What the hell does that mean?!" Me: (Pulls both cans out & shows them to her) "It's only got Toucans."

I'm not ashamed to admit the look on her face was glorious.

I was just sitting there doing nothing.

“BOOM”?!

"That's what they're fighting about."

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Because his Visa didn’t work.

Because the audience only responds in a low ha

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Myth: Vikramaditya never existed, he’s just a legendary ruler based on Chandragupta II; there is no epigraphy or coinage issued by him, and he is not mentioned in the dynastic histories (vamsanucharita) of the Puranas.

Overcorrection: Vikramaditya not only existed, but became a world-emperor, ruling over the Middle East, Central Asia, Eastern Europe and Western China.

Truth: The Malavas of Ujjain won at least a defensive war against the Scythians c. 57 BC, possibly causing the destabilization of Scythian power back at Taxila. The Malava chief responsible for this feat may well have been named Vikrama.

***

The Maurya-Gupta interregnum (180 BC – 250 AD), in particular the period 57 BC – 78 AD, was a giant mess when it comes to the history of North-Western India.

South India under the Satavahanas and North India under the Shungas and successive Magadhan dynasties prospered in this period under relatively stable Vedic governance. In the North-West, however, the situation could only be described as political chaos.

There is already confusion about the political history in the period of Greco-Bactrian invasions before 57 BC [1], and during the period of Scythian invasions, sovereignty was fuzzy and fluctuating, borders were non-constant or even ill-defined, and the chronology is highly uncertain. It would perhaps be most accurate to refer to the period as a complex multipartite war between the Greco-Bactrians, Scythians, Parthians, Yuezhi and local and imperial Indic states.

In the midst of all this chaos, there is one name that shines most brightly: Vikramaditya of Ujjain – who, as per traditional record, emerged victorious over the invaders and established a glorious golden age of prosperity and governance in accordance with Vedic laws. His victory over the Scythians c. 57 BC marks the epoch of the Vikrama Samvat, the traditional Hindu calendar – and his name was immortalized by history as a regal title, equivalent to “Caesar” in Europe or “Alexander” in Persia.

The purpose of this text is to reconstruct a precise history of the period between 57 BC – 78 AD based on the primary sources available to us.

If you’re unfamiliar with the historical context, read the background chapters first.

Table of contents

• Historicity of Vikramaditya
• Reconstructing the period 57 BC – 78 AD
• Aftermath: 78 – 250
• Background: start of the barbarian invasions
• Background: 180 – 57 BC

Historicity of Vikramaditya

The most inform