How well do Greeks from the homeland understand the the variety of Greek language spoken by Pontic Greeks?

I have heard that the Greeks in the Caucasus and Anatolia speak a variety of Greek that is quite different from Standard Greek. It seems to be considered merely a dialect of Greek, however I have also read that it is quite difficult for Greeks from Greece to understand the Pontic variety.

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👤︎ u/Salmacis81
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Found out I'm pontic greek

Hello everyone. I am a turk and did a dna test a few weeks ago. Well I got it back and found out I am Pontic greek.

Some of my friends have been pointing out my appearance not looking very turkish, some even teasing me and daring me to do one of these tests these Youtubers do. I've researched them (since they're really expensive, didn't want to pick the wrong one) and chose ancestry dna for the communities.

I've always read stories about "Turkified peoples" but I never thought I myself would be one of them. My parents always said they're proud turks. My grandpa says we're of Nomad descent.

It's weird to take this in after a few decades of "knowing" something. Are these tests accurate? What does it mean to be pontic greek? What's the difference between Pontic Greeks and normal greeks? Didn't the greek dispora disappear after the population exchange? So many damn questions. How am I gonna tell my father about this? He was pretty excited and wanted to know how oghuz he was.

I'd really appreciate your thoughts/information on all of this 🙏.

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Did the Pontic Greek Genocide happen?

Obviously controversial, curious to know your opinion

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Do you guys see any pontic ancestry? I did a test a month ago and it came back, telling me I am of pontic greek descent. Ran it through all the calculators, but just see myself as an average turk with no greek ancestry. reddit.com/gallery/rnz0aj
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Turkey ‘regrets’ Greek president’s comments on Pontic Greek Genocide ekathimerini.com/news/117…
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After taking the test, my grandparents were also interested and they both scored High Genetic links to the Pontic Region. My grandfather, has almost 50% Greek Relatives 50% Armenian with some Georgian Ancestry apparently. Does this mean I’m Pontic Greek? I took 23andMe. I identify as Armenian. reddit.com/gallery/rvxqx3
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Illustrative DNA Results - Pontic Greek reddit.com/gallery/rwh1pl
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So apparently I am not pontic greek? Dna result was inaccurate? I did a lot of testing these past weeks and many people told me I am just an average turk, with no pontic genes. Down below are all my results. I used Gedmatch and Vahaduo Am I no pontic greek and was my initial test false? reddit.com/gallery/rnw3ry
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Really confused on MyHeritage Results. I know I am Armenian with very little Pontic Greek and very little Levantine Ancestry. But the Jewish is uncalled for? (myHeritage vs 23andme) reddit.com/gallery/ryxfze
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Proposed states for Pontic Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians following World War One
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What do you consider Pontic Greeks to be?

Pontic Greeks come from the Black Sea and Caucasus and are a Greek-speaking Christian minority of that region. Which label fits them best?

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Omal - Traditional Pontic Greek dance, Kemençe : Giorgos Amarantidis youtube.com/watch?v=qwsiE…
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Does that mean i have Pontic Greek ancestry? (Im from the Black sea Region)
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👤︎ u/Meert_19
📅︎ Dec 12 2021
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Greek Gold ‘Pontic Aristocratic’ Diadem, Late 4th-Late 3rd Century BC- [570x240]
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👤︎ u/ting-en
📅︎ Dec 17 2021
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Proposed states for Pontic Greeks, Armenians, and Assyrians following World War One
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K36 Map - Pontic/Peloponnesus Greek with distant Turkish ancestor (1/16) reddit.com/gallery/pww13l
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Omal - Traditional Pontic Greek dance, Kemençe : Giorgos Amarantidis youtube.com/watch?v=qwsiE…
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A Pontic Greek Hoplite Helmet, Chalcidian type, 4th century BC. Auctioned 2019, £10,625. (2303x1693)
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👤︎ u/GaGator43
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DNAGenics Results - Pontic Greek reddit.com/gallery/qkywfl
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Pontic/Peloponnesian Greek - K12b proximity vahaduo
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Surname? Family claims it's pontic Greek but I have my doubts about it due to them being weirdly secretive about the family history sometimes.

The surname is Agabedis just wondering if anyone has any idea if its truly Greek. Thanks!

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Are these dna tests even accurate? I am from Aydin and can trace my ancestors for 100 years or so, they've always been west of Anatolia (Aydin, Germencik, Sindirgi) yet it shows me I'm from Pontus and I'm a pontic greek, if I was some sort of greek my family would've known. reddit.com/gallery/pmsxqd
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19 May - Today is Pontic Greek Genocide Remembrance Day
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👤︎ u/Karaisim
📅︎ May 19 2021
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Armenian with some Pontic Greek ancestry dating back to the late 17th century. Had some Southern Italian which disappeared this last update. The Levant is new and not sure where that came from but I’m assuming it’s just regional overlap. Maternal family portrait from Soviet times. reddit.com/gallery/pvm6fs
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The last Pontic Greek speakers in Armenia youtube.com/watch?v=9nBYw…
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Pontic greeks have two moods: First is κοκκινη επανάσταση του προλεταριάτου and second is Εγώ θα ανάψω δυο κεριά, τον ένα στην Αγιά Σοφιά και τ'άλλο στην Παναγιά τη Σουμελά
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Flag of the Hellenic Republic of Pontus / If the Pontic Greeks succeeded in creating a nation in north eastern Turkey.
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Pontic/Peloponnesus Greek with distant Anatolian Turk great great grandparent (1/16)
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Do you think Cypriots and Pontic people look different than Greeks from Greece?

Why or why not?

My opinion is Cypriots head toward looking like Lebanese, Syrians, and Palestinians (Levant) whereas Pontic Greeks head toward Armenian, Georgian and Iranian/Kurdish, and both look different than the average person from Greece itself.

Is this view shared by others? I don’t mean on an individual basis but on average.

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All Greeks except Pontic/Cypriot/Dodecanese: do you accept you have Slavic ancestry?

Do you accept it?

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Greek PM Eleftherios Venizelos and American Ambassador Henry Morgenthau Sr. pose with orphan refugee children who they helped evacuate from Anatolia after the Pontic Genocide and the Greco-Turkish War [Athens, 1924]
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👤︎ u/Karaisim
📅︎ Aug 21 2021
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Black Sea (Pontic Greeks and Turks) Donuts reddit.com/gallery/nyk6tw
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Pontic Greek.

I know that Pontic isn’t really an ancient dialect (sorry mods), but does anyone know of any resource I can use to learn the language/dialect? Thanks!

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👤︎ u/vtzan
📅︎ Jun 25 2021
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Can a pontic Greek speak communicate with Greek speaker?

Hello guys. Pontic Greek was a language that have been spoken over centuries in my hometown (Trebizond). But sadly there's not much speaker left in the area. Im wondering that can a Pontic Greek speaker and Modern Greek speaker understand each other?

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19 May - Today is Pontic Greek Genocide Remembrance Day
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Can you tell who is Pontic and Anatolian Greek on sight?

Pontic Greeks are genetically closer to Armenians, Georgians, and other Caucasus populations. Many Anatolian Greeks share ancestry with the other people of Anatolia also due to Hellenization.

Does this reflect phenotypically?

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Native Greek speakers - do you understand Pontic Greek?
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Pontic Greeks

Who are they, and why are they grouped in the WANA category, are they genetically greeks like mainlanders or more like Azeris, Gerogians, Persians, chechens and are just hellenized greeks?

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Updated Pontic Greek with ancestors mainly from Trabzon (v5.9) reddit.com/gallery/jicoo3
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Today is the Remembrance Day for the victims of the genocide of Pontus. The flag of Pontic Greeks is one of my favourites. What do you guys think?
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If given a choice between just Portuguese and Armenians, where would more Greeks pass? Excluding Cyprus and Pontic people.

Which?

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One more new comunity: North Anatolia (Pontic Greek)

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet, and I find it really interesting that it's been included, so I thought I'd try to show it off.

DNA maps have had problems for a long time trying to make sense of the Pontic/Pontian Greek half of my tests. I've seen them shift (as I remember it) between Turkey, Greece, Cyprus, Armenia, Italy... with the last big update, Ancestry started to get a grip on things, placing 45% in Turkey & the Caucasus, and 5% in Greece & Albania.

And now with the new update, North Anatolia community has been added, currently shared by 17,944 members. And unless the connected story changes from person to person, it's actually a dedicated Pontic Greek community. As with the Armenian community, it does not appear right under Turkey & the Caucasus, but at the bottom under "Additional Communities". Which seems like a cautious move, but interestingly, it doesn't shy away from touching on the topic of genocide.

Anyway, here's an album with my screencaps from the story of the North Anatolia community as told by Ancestry (only slightly censored for privacy):

https://imgur.com/a/Gs55vZr

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👤︎ u/andreask
📅︎ May 25 2021
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What are some stereotypes/common notions about Pontic Greeks?

Are these stereotypes/common notions generally applied to all Greeks from Mikra Asia or specifically those from Pontou? Are they still widely-known or obsolete?

If you can remember any, could you please mention any TV shows, movies or other media that promoted such stereotypes?

Any bit info you may give would be much appreciated, thank you so much!

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AncestryDNA results, Pontic Greek

So I’m or thought I was Pontic Greek. My grandparents from my mother side descend from Trabzond and Macka Black Sea. And from my fathers side my grandma is from Corfu and Epirus, while my grandfather was from Thessaloniki. His last name was Pontic Greek but he didn’t speak the dialect. My Ancestry results from AncestryDNA came in as 94 percent Greece and Albania and 6 percent Balkan. And surprisingly I didn’t get any Turkey and the Caucasus. How did that happen, how accurate is the test?

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Do Cypriots and Pontic Greeks look more like Levantines and Armenians than like Greeks from Greece?

Yes or no?

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Ancestry results, Pontic Greek

So from what I knew all my life was that I was majorly Pontic Greek. My grandparents from my mothers side were from Trabzond and Macka Black Sea region (North eastern turkey). While my grandparents from my fathers side were from mainland Greece. My grandma from Corfu and Epirus, and my grandfather had a Pontic Greek surname but didn’t speak the dialect. So we assumed he probably wasn’t full Pontic. But my results say that I got 94% Greece and Albania, and 6% Balkan with no dot on North Eastern Turkey. How is it possible I got not ancestry from turkey and the Caucasus or west Asia. How accurate is it

Update: So after asking information from relatives from my mothers side, I came to find out that her father did not originate from Pontus. They said they moved from the coast of Turkey towards Pontus, and that before that they think they might have moved from somewhere else. That else we don’t know.

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