Vintage - T206 Tris Speaker RC & Nap Lajoie!
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β€˜Coffee’ with Nap Lajoie
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In honor of Cleveland changing their name (they used to be named the Naps after Lajoie), what if every team had changed their name to reference one of their players in the last 5 years.
Team Name
Arizona Goldies (Goldschmidt)
Atlanta Free Men (Freeman)
Baltimore Scopes (Schoop)
Boston Bowlers (Betts)
Chicago (AL) Whistlers (Abreu)
Chicago (NL) Magos (Baez)
Cincinnati Canucks (Votto)
Cleveland Smileys (Lindor)
Colorado Tornados (Arenado)
Detroit MiGs (Cabrera)
Houston Micros (Altuve)
KC Moose (Moustakas)
LA (AL) Fish (Tim Salmon)
LA (NL) Minotaurs (Kershaw)
Miami Sixtoe Sox (Sixto)
Milwaukee Liches (Yelich)
Minnesota Byronic Heroes (Buxton)
NY (AL) Judges (Sotomayor)
NY (NL) Polar Bears (Alonso)
Oakland Simians (Semien)
Philadelphia Harps (Harper)
Pittsburgh Cutches (McCutchen)
SD NiΓ±os (Tatis)
SF Busters (Posey)
Seattle Kings (Hernandez)
St. Louis Moles (Molina)
Tampa Bay G-Men (Choi)
Texas Roosters (Gallo)
Toronto Biggies (Biggio)
Washington Madmen (Scherzer)
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[Pro Sports Outlook] Today, history was made in 1995 when Indians 1B Eddie Murray became the 20th player in MLB history to collect 3,000 career hits and the 3rd to do it in a Cleveland uniform (Nap Lajoie, Tris Speaker) prosportsoutlook.com/toda…
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Nap lajoie custom β€˜33 Goudy.
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Napoleon Lajoie, Cleveland Naps (later Indians), 1907
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Albert Pujols passed HoFer Nap Lajoie for 7th on all-time doubles list; now seven shy of 6th place George Brett and ten shy of 5th place Craig Biggio.

List

Rank Player Doubles
1. Tris Speaker 792
2. Pete Rose 746
3. Stan Musial 725
4. Ty Cobb 724
5. Craig Biggio 668
6. George Brett 665
7. Albert Pujols 658
8. Nap Lajoie 657
9. Carl Yastrzemski 646
10. Honus Wagner 643
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Player of the Week (Week of 5/4): Nap Lajoie

I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy and surviving the quarantine! In the meantime, for this year's player of the week, we're going with the guy the team was once named after...

Nap Lajoie!

BASICS:

Born: September 5, 1874

Batted: Right

Threw: Right

Position: 2B, Player-Manager

Drafted: August 9, 1896 by the Phillies

MLB Debut: August 12, 1896

Traded to the Indians: May 31, 1902

Debut with the Indians: May 31, 1902

Played With The Indians: 1902-1914

Other Teams: Phillies (1896-1901), Athletics (1901-1902, 1914-1916)

Retired: 1918

Inducted into the Hall of Fame: 1937

CAREER STATS:

Games: 2480

Batting Average: 0.338

OBP: 0.380

SLG: 0.466

OPS: 0.846

Runs: 1504

Hits: 3243

Doubles: 657

Triples: 163

Home Runs: 82

RBIs: 1599

Stolen Bases: 380

CAREER AWARDS:

Hall of Fame - inducted 1937

Triple Crown - 1901

AL batting champion - 1901–1904, 1910

AL home run leader - 1901

RBI leader - 1898, 1901, 1904

THINGS YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW:

His father was reluctant for him to start playing baseball professionally.

He drove a taxi buggy.

He had seven older siblings.

His family is French-Canadian.

The Indians were named the Cleveland Naps after him from 1903 to 1914.

His big rival was Ty Cobb.

WHY I LOVE HIM:

My grandparents weren't even born yet when he was playing, but it's impossible not to acknowledge him when talking about our team's history.Β  One of our best players of all time.Β  When I did Kenny Lofton's week, one of the users on the sub said our Mount Rushmore is Feller, Lajoie, Lofton and Thome.Β  I agree!Β  I also love the backstory of how his parents didn't want him playing baseball but he did anyway and went on to become one of the greats.

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This unit of a baseball bat being held by ace level and Indians Hall of Famer Nap Lajoie.
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Nap Lajoie, a remarkably unremembered remarkable player Cleveland History

The following is a post I did in the Boston forum that I follow. I guess it would me appropriate in this one though, but read it like you are not a Cleveland fan since this will likely be more familiar territory for you. I don't have a lot of Karma so I guess my posts don't get many views, so maybe it will reach a few eyes here and hopefully you enjoy it. Even though I hate Cleveland for 2016, I kind of gotta like them since the team was named after a relative for some time and he is a top three player for them of all time and a coach. As long as he didn't play for the Yankees it is okay to like your team.

"I was at a family reunion last weekend and got into a conversation about our relative, my 4X great uncle, Nap Lajoie. Then again on the Wally post in the r/redsox someone commented about Cleveland and the grief the name Indians causes. So as many people have never heard of him I will let you know some interesting facts.

The Indians were called the Naps(Napoleons) after him for about 10 years until he left for Canada.

He was the third guy to 3,000 hits after Wagner.

The 1910 season saw him and Cobb battle for baseball supremacy and to this day there is no distinct winner of the batting crown. They both won the award and there is no consensus on what their final averages were. There were multiple books written about the battle between the two of them that year and was when Nap was coming back to earth and Cobb was taking off. Two greats passing the same point in different directions. Cobb was ahead of Nap .383 to .376 and took the last two games off, while Nap went 8-8 during a double header and won .384 to .383.... This has been questioned for years though and some have shown a number of record keeping errors. They also think that the players liked Nap so much and hated Cobb so much that he might have been "given" the hits.

He hit .426 in 1901 with the Athletics and it still stands as the highest average ever in the AL and also the first person to hit over .400 in the AL. He also is #19 in highest lifetime BA. In his 1901 season he dominated in every offensive category and took the Triple Crown.

As per OPS+ he has 3 of the top 100 greatest seasons of all time.

He was voted in the second class to be voted into the HOF and got more votes than Tris Speaker and Cy Young who were voted in the same year. He was a very quiet guy that wasn't concerned with numbers as much as winning and that apparently endeared him to

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Rajai Davis, 35 years old and now with 25 steals, is the oldest Indians player to steal 25 bases in a season since Nap Lajoie in 1910 twitter.com/RyanLewisABJ/…
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Perfect Season Project - Game 151 - Nap Lajoie Notches 3000th Hit perfectseasonproject.com/…
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105 Years Ago Today - Nap Lajoie Notched His 3000th Hit at League Park perfectseasonproject.com/…
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Perfect Season Project - Game 161 - St. Louis Attempts to Hand the Batting Title to Nap Lajoie to Spite Ty Cobb perfectseasonproject.com/…
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TIL the Cleveland Indians were so excited to get star Napoleon Lajoie in 1902 that they named the team "the Naps" after him for 11 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cle…
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TIL that the Cleveland Indians were known as the Cleveland Naps from 1903-1914. They were named after their player/manager and Hall of Famer Nap Lajoie. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C…
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Baseball hall of fame 1936Back row: Honus Wagner, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Tris Speaker, Nap Lajoie, George Sisler, Walter Johnson; Front row: Eddie Collins, Babe Ruth, Connie Mack, Cy Young(1024x8... /u/Johnholmeshere imgur.com/5xoGDgp
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There appears to be a discrepancy over Nap Lajoie's career hit total

ELIAS has him at 3,252.

MLB.com, Baseball Reference, ESPN (run by STATS LLC, I think) have him at 3,242.

I bring this up because Jeter has either passed him with 3,243 hits or is still behind him by a few.

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Who is the best player born on each day of the year?

I was curious to see who was the best player born on each day of the year. It turned out to be a bit more of a struggle than I thought it was going to be, so I decided to simply sort it by WAR. Does that mean that sometimes a better player got left off the list for a player who simply had a longer career? Absolutely. But WAR is a nice simple stat. So, here's the list!

January

  • 1 – Tim Keefe
  • 2 – Edgar Martinez
  • 3 – A.J. Burnett
  • 4 – Kris Bryant
  • 5 – Bill Dahlen
  • 6 – Early Wynn
  • 7 – Johnny Mize
  • 8 – Jason Giambi
  • 9 – Stan Javier
  • 10 – Willie McCovey
  • 11 – Max Carey
  • 12 – Bill Madlock
  • 13 – Kevin Mitchell
  • 14 – Sonny Siebert
  • 15 – Bobby Grich
  • 16 – Albert Pujols
  • 17 – Darrell Porter
  • 18 – Curt Flood
  • 19 – John Matlack
  • 20 – Brian Giles
  • 21 – Mike Tiernan
  • 22 – Amos Strunk
  • 23 – Red Donahue
  • 24 – JosΓ© Quintana
  • 25 – Danny Richardson
  • 26 – George Blaeholder
  • 27 – Bibb Falk
  • 28 – Magglio OrdΓ³Γ±ez
  • 29 – Jason Schmidt
  • 30 – Tony Mullane
  • 31 – Nolan Ryan

February

  • 1 – Paul Blair
  • 2 – Wes Ferrell
  • 3 – Fred Lynn
  • 4 – Doug Fister
  • 5 – Hank Aaron
  • 6 – Babe Ruth
  • 7 – Carney Lansford
  • 8 – Dobie Moore
  • 9 – Vladimir Guerrero
  • 10 – Lance Berkman
  • 11 – Jimmy Ryan
  • 12 – Chet Lemon
  • 13 – Sal Bando
  • 14 – Pretzels Getzien
  • 15 – Billy Hamilton
  • 16 – Ben Sanders
  • 17 – Wally Pipp
  • 18 – Joe Gordon
  • 19 – Dave Stewart
  • 20 – Justin Verlander
  • 21 – Alan Trammell
  • 22 – Clarence Mitchell
  • 23 – Ray Brown
  • 24 – Honus Wagner
  • 25 – Ron Santo
  • 26 – Pete Alexander
  • 27 – Johnny Pesky
  • 28 – Terry Turner
  • 29 – Al Rosen

March

  • 1 – Paul Hines
  • 2 – Mel Ott
  • 3 – John Ward
  • 4 – Dazzy Vance
  • 5 – Sam Thompson
  • 6 – Lefty Grove
  • 7 – Jeff Kent
  • 8 – Dick Allen
  • 9 – Arky Vaughan
  • 10 – John Briggs
  • 11 – Bobby Abreu
  • 12 – Jim Wynn
  • 13 – Home Run Baker
  • 14 – Kevin Brown
  • 15 – Bobby Bonds
  • 16 – Buddy Myer
  • 17 – Charlie Root
  • 18 – Dwayne Murphy
  • 19 – Clayton Kershaw
  • 20 – Joe McGinnity
  • 21 – Manny SanguillΓ©n
  • 22 – Billy Goodman
  • 23 – Mark Buehrle
  • 24 – George Sisler
  • 25 – Tom Glavine
  • 26 – Kevin Seitzer
  • 27 – Buster Posey
  • 28 – Lon Warneke
  • 29 – Cy Young
  • 30 – Chris Sale
  • 31 – Jack Stivetts

April

  • 1 – Phil Niekro
  • 2 – Luke Appling
  • 3 – Guy Hecker
  • 4 – Tris Speaker
  • 5 – Bill Dinneen
  • 6 – Bert Blyleven
  • 7 – AdriΓ‘n BeltrΓ©
  • 8 – Gary Carter
  • 9 – Doc White
  • 10 – Ken Griffey Sr.
  • 11 – Bret Saberhagen
  • 12 – Vic Willis
  • 13 – Lorenzo Cain
  • 14 – Greg Maddux
  • 15 – Willie Davis
  • 16 – Paul Waner
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Guess the HOF statline. Day 10!
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What if every team renamed themselves like the Cleveland Naps?

In 1903, the Cleveland Bronchos rebranded themselves, naming the team after Nap Lajoie, who at the time was the best active player on the team, and also the best player in Cleveland history. So what if every team was required to do that today? Below you will see how each team renames themselves based on the best player in their history, or their best active player. For the best player in history, I took the player with the most bWAR specifically for that team, meaning if a player had more total WAR, but accumulated some with a different team, they were not included. For best active player, I went by 2021 bWAR, taking into account only how each player performed over the last season:

AL East

New York Babes/New York Aarons

Boston Teds/Boston Xanders

Toronto Daves/Toronto Marcuses

Baltimore Cals/Baltimore Cedrics

Tampa Bay Evans/Tampa Bay Brandons

Al Central

Detroit Tys/Detroit Jeimers

Chicago Lukes/Chicago Lances

Kansas City Georges/Kansas City Salvadors

Minnesota Walters/Minnesota Jorges

Cleveland Naps/Cleveland Joses

AL West

Los Angeles Mikes of Anaheim/Los Angeles Shoheis of Anaheim

Seattle Kens/Seattle Tys

Oakland Eddies/Oakland Matts

Texas Ivans/Texas Joeys

Houson Jeffs/Houston Cheaters

NL East

New York Toms/New York Jacobs

Philadelphia Mikes/Philadelphia Zacks

Montreal Garys/Washington Juans

Miami Giancarlos/Miami Sandys

Atlanta Hanks/Atlanta Austins

NL Central

Cincinnati Petes/Cincinnati Wades

Chicago Caps/Chicago Willsons

Pittsburgh Honuses/Pittsburgh Bryans

Milwaukee Robins/Milwaukee Corbins

St. Louis Stans/ St. Louis Tylers

NL West

San Francisco Willies/San Francisco Brandons

San Diego Tonys/San Diego Fernandos

Los Angeles Claytons/Los Angeles Walkers

Colorado Todds/Colorado Trevors

Arizona Randys/Arizona Merrills

Stay tuned for part 2, the 60 team simulation to determine the ultimate team name!

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Round one of my All Time Team β€œMarch Madness Style” bracket

I made all time teams for all 30 squads, and put them into seeds to make a β€œMarch madness” style bracket.

Rules:

Round one last 48 hours, rounds 2-finish will be 24 hours

Each player can only be used once. This made it extremely tough to pick teams for guys who were great on multiple teams

I will comment the matchups, upvote the team you think would win

Each team has a DH, as it makes the matchups easier to evaluate

All teams are on 3 man rotations

The matchups are based on the seeds I made, I’ll say what my rankings are after the bracket is done

Round 1:

Byes (1 and 2 seed, so the round 2 is 16 teams): Yankees and Cards

Matchups:

Giants vs Rays

Giants-

  1. Cf- Willie Mays

  2. Rf- Mel Ott

  3. DH- Barry Bonds

  4. 1b- Willie Mccovey

  5. Lf- Bobby Bonds

  6. 2b- Jeff Kent

  7. C- Buster Posey

  8. 3b- Matt Williams

  9. Ss- Travis Jackson

P- Christy Matthewson

Rays-

  1. LF- Carl Crawford

  2. 2b- Ben Zobrist

  3. 1b- Carlos Pena

  4. 3b- Evan Longoria

  5. RF- BJ (Melvin) Upton

  6. DH- Corey Dickerson

  7. SS- Julio Lugo

  8. C- Jon Jaso

  9. CF- Kevin Kiermier

P. David Price

Red Sox vs Royals

  1. CF- tris speaker

  2. SS- Nomar Garciaparra

  3. DH- Ted Williams

  4. 1b- David Ortiz

  5. RF- Carl Yastrzemski

  6. LF- Jim Rice

  7. 3b- Wade Boggs

  8. C- Carlton Fisk

  9. 2b- Dustin Pedroia

P- Cy Young

Royals-

  1. CF- Willie Wilson

  2. RF- Amos Otis

  3. 3b- George Brett

  4. 1b- John Mayberry

  5. DH- Mike Sweeney

  6. LF- Hal Mcrae

  7. C- Salvador Perez

  8. 2b- Frank White

  9. SS- Alcides Escobar

P- Brett Saberhagen

Cubs vs Blue Jays

Cubs-

  1. 2b- Ryne Sandberg

  2. LF- Billy Williams

  3. CF- Hack Wilson

  4. SS- Ernie Banks

  5. Rf- Sammy Sosa

  6. 1b- Cap Anson

  7. 3b- Ron Santo

  8. DH- Derek Lee

  9. C- Gabby Hartnet

P- Fergie Jenkins

Blue Jays

  1. 2b- Roberto Alomar

  2. SS- Tony Fernandez

  3. DH- Carlos Delgado

  4. 1b- Fred Mcgriff

  5. RF- Jose Bautista

  6. 3b- Josh Donaldson

  7. LF- George Bell

  8. CF- Vernon Wells

  9. C- Russell Martin

P- Roy Halliday

Reds vs Diamondbacks

Diamond backs-

  1. Cf- Steve Finley

  2. 2b- Ketel Marte

  3. 1b- Paul Goldschmidt

  4. LF- Luis Gonzalez

  5. DH- Justin Upton

  6. RF- AJ Pollock

  7. 3b- Mark Reynolds

  8. C- Miguel Montero

  9. SS- Stephen Drew

P- Randy Johnson

Reds

  1. 2b- Joe Morgan

  2. DH- Pete Rose

  3. LF- George Foster

  4. C- Johnny Bench

  5. 1b- Joey Votto

  6. SS- Barry Larkin

  7. 3b- Tony Perez

  8. RF- Vada Pinson

  9. Cf- Eric Davis

P- Jose Rijo

A’s vs Padres

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Sabermetric Triple Crown Winners

I was curious if we used modern stats how many players would have won a triple crown. For batting I chose OBP, SLG and RE24 (the best equivalent to RBI) for pitching I chose ERA+, bWAR (best equivalent to wins), and Ks (still a pretty important stat and I needed a counting one to prevent low IP guys). Scroll to the bottom to see why I chose those categories in slightly more depth. This is in no way meant to be perfect or to say these are that these are necessarily the best seasons of all time but it would be a cool way of honoring players going forward.

Annotations:

Asterisk - Probably on steroids. Clemens 1997 season is up for debate but im pretty sure he used. Bonds 1992 and 1993 seasons could be debated but I dont think theres enough evidence to say he did.

Italicized - Won Cy Young

Bold - Won MVP (NA before 1911 and from 1914-1922

WAR- Led league in fWAR and bWAR for either position players or pitchers.

(+ indicates that they lead their league in both bWAR and fWAR for both pitchers and position players)

(++ indicates that they lead the MLB in bWAR and fWAR for both pitchers and position players)

Complete - Won both the traditional triple crown and the sabermetric triple crown

Total- Led MLB in all sabermetric crown categories not just league

Perfect- satisfies the requirements for WAR, Total, and Complete

Immaculate - Fulfills requirements of perfect+ led the MLB in all three traditional categories + lead MLB in bWAR and fWAR

Batting Sabermetric Crown Winners 62

Vladimir Guerrero JR. 2021 AL

Mike Trout 2019 AL

Miguel Cabrera 2013 AL Total

Joey Votto 2010 NL

Joe Mauer 2009 AL

Albert Pujols 2009 NL WAR+

Barry Bonds 2004* NL Total, WAR++

Barry Bonds 2003* NL Total, WAR++

Barry Bonds 2002* NL Total, WAR++

Barry Bonds 2001* NL Total, WAR++

Jason Giambi 2001* AL WAR+

Todd Helton 2000 NL WAR+

Mark McGwire 1998* NL

Larry Walker 1997 NL

Frank Thomas 1994 AL

Barry Bonds 1993 NL WAR

Barry Bonds 1992 NL Total, WAR

Mike Schmidt 1981 NL Total**, WAR++

George Brett 1980 AL Total, WAR+

Fred Lynn 1979 AL WAR+

Joe Morgan 1976 NL Total**,WAR++

Dick Allen 1972 NL WAR

Carl Yastrzemski 1970 AL WAR+

Willie McCovey 1969 NL Total, WAR

Carl Yastrzemski 1967 AL Perfect

Frank Robinson 1966 AL Complete, WAR

Willie Mays 1965 NL Total, WAR++

Willie Mays 1964 NL WAR++

Frank Robinson NL 1962

Mickey Mantle AL 1962

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/8/21

So what's this thread for?

  • Discussion of yesterday's games
  • Excitement for today's games
  • General questions
  • Mildly interesting facts
  • Praising Santa πŸŽ…
  • Anything else worth sharing/asking that doesn't warrant its own post

For game threads, use the games schedule on the sidebar to navigate to the team you want a game thread for.

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This Week's Schedule (all times Eastern)

Day Feature
Sunday 9/5 Sunday Night Baseball Game Thread: Dodgers vs Giants at 7:08 PM EDT
Happy Birthday to Hall of Famers Nap Lajoie (1874), and Bill Mazeroski (1936)!
National Cheese Pizza Day!
Monday 9/6 πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Happy Labor Day!
[RBaseball Weekly Podcast - Episode 37: MLB Home Stretch Previ
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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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What starts with a W and ends with a T

It really does, I swear!

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What is your all-time greatest 26 man roster?

Choose from all MLB and NgL players from any era.

Should have a 1-9 including DH (DH can be any player, not just DH’s), 5 starters and at least 4 relievers. Outfield spots are interchangeable.

My roster:

  1. Willie Mays (OF)
  2. Ted Williams (OF)
  3. Babe Ruth (DH)
  4. Lou Gehrig (1B)
  5. Barry Bonds (OF)
  6. Josh Gibson (C)
  7. Mike Schmidt (3B)
  8. Honus Wagner (SS)
  9. Rogers Hornsby (2B)

SP: Walter Johnson, Satchel Paige, Lefty Grove, Sandy Koufax, Christy Mathewson

RP: Mariano Rivera, Rollie Fingers, Dennis Eckersley, Trevor Hoffman

Bench: Ty Cobb, Hank Aaron, Oscar Charleston, Alex Rodriguez, Yogi Berra, Stan Musial, Rickey Henderson, Jimmie Foxx

Just missed:

Pitchers - Cy Young, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson, Clayton Kershaw, Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Warren Spahn, Bob Gibson, Ed Walsh, Pete Alexander, Hoyt Wilhelm, Billy Wagner, Goose Gossage

Hitters - Joe DiMaggio, Joe Morgan, Albert Pujols, George Brett, Ralph Kiner, Sammy Sosa, Johnny Bench, Tris Speaker, Billy Hamilton, Mickey Mantle, Nap Lajoie

I’m sure you all disagree :) let’s hear it!

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Trea Turner led position players in fWAR with 6.9 and Carlos Correa led position players in bWAR with 7.2, in both cases that is the lowest major league leading total ever in a season with at least 150 games played

The NL and AL went to 154 game seasons in 1904- the only seasons since then with lower leading position player fWAR/bWAR totals than that were seasons shortened substantially by a pandemic (2020) or by WWI (1918). It's not really even all that close- it's been pretty rare in the era of 154 or 162 game seasons for no position players to manage 8 WAR (either kind), and the previous low leading WAR total in seasons of that length was 7.7 fWAR (several seasons) or 7.4 bWAR (Johnny Mize in 1940)

Even seasons substantially shorter than this one have usually had at least one player outdo Trea Turner's fWAR total and Carlos Correa's bWAR total- lowering the minimum to 100 games, which covers every MLB season since 1884 onward aside from 2020, the only times the fWAR leader had a lower fWAR than 2021 Trea Turner were 1889 (with teams playing 130-something games- IDK, kinda hard to tell exactly what the scheduled number of games was in 1800's seasons due to lack of information and lots of games to make up ties), 1918 (season was shortened to around 125-130 games, with some variation from team to team, because of WWI), with 1900 leader Honus Wagner basically being tied (in a 140-ish game season), though through messing with FanGraphs' leaderboards a bit I can tell it rates 1900 Wagner very slightly ahead of 2021 Turner in fWAR.

There's a few other short early seasons where the bWAR leader has less than Correa's 7.2 bWAR- in addition to three mentioned seasons where the fWAR leader had less than 7 fWAR, there's also 1887, 1890, 1891, and 1893, all featuring a bWAR leader somewhere between 6.6 and 7.1 but an fWAR leader over 7- those 4 years all had schedules somewhere between 125 and 140 games, from what I can tell.

1884 should also be mentioned here- Fred Dunlap did exceed both of this year's WAR leaders, but he played in the only-lasted-for-one-year Union Association, the designation of which as a "major" league is... somewhat questionable. If you ignore that, and only count the NL and AA, the major league fWAR and bWAR leaders would both be in the mid-6's (Dave Orr with 6.6 fWAR, and Ned Williamson with 6.3 bWAR), though that was still a fairly short season, with the NL and AA both playing around 110-115 games, from what I can tell.

Of course, it should probably also be pointed out here that overall 2021 WAR (either version) leader Shohei Ohtani has 8.1 total fWAR and 9.0 total bWAR, but that's from both hitting and pitching, not hitting alone.

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MLB GOAT Tourney Round 1 winners and Round 2 Matchups

Here are your winners from round one and matchups for round two

Matchup 1: Hank Aaron vs Greg Maddux Matchup 2: Tony Gwynn vs Honus Wagner Matchup 3: Ted Williams vs Frank Thomas Matchup 4: Ichiro vs Pedro Martinez Matchup 5: Rickey Henderson vs Mickey Mantle Matchup 6: Ty Cobb vs Warren Spahn Matchup 7: Cy Young vs Jackie Robinson Matchup 8: Pete Rose vs Nolan Ryan Matchup 9: Stan Musial vs Lou Gehrig Matchup 10: Roger Clemens vs Cal Ripken Jr Matchup 11: Eddie Murray vs Rogers Hornsby Matchup 12: Ken Griffey Jr vs Yogi Berra Matchup 13: Mariano Rivera vs Walter Johnson Matchup 14: Randy Johnson vs Willie Mays Matchup 15: Babe Ruth vs Mike Trout Matchup 16: Joe Dimaggio vs Reggie Jackson/Alex Rodriguez

Biggest upset: Pujols losing in the first round to Pete Rose Lowest votes received: Cap Anson (5) Highest votes: Greg Maddux (221) Biggest surprise: Bonds getting bumped in the first round. Granted he faced Griffey so not to surprising and I think it shows the subs thoughts on Bonds and Roids.

What were your biggest surprises from round 1? Who’re you rooting for to win it all? Who’re you must upset got voted out? Round 2 coming soon

Edit: losers of round one: Bob Feller, Mike Schmidt, Tris Speaker, Jimmie Foxx, Frank Robinson, Eddie Collins, Ernie Banks, Steve Carlton, Bob Gibson, Cap Anson, Derek Jeter, Manny Ramirez, George Brett, Nap Lajoie, Albert Pujols, Roberto Clemente, Tom Seaver, Sandy Koufax, Eddie Matthews, Vladimir Guerrero, Mel Ott, Hank Greenberg, Barry Bonds, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Christy Matthewson , Ozzie Smith, Chipper Jones, Miguel Cabrera, Joe Morgan, Lefty Grove, Johnny Bench

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/7/21

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Greatest Of All Time?

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/5/21

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/11/21

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/10/21

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[General Discussion] Around the Horn - 9/6/21

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