I don't know who to compare my Dad or brother to at the moment, but my Mom(especially) and my sister eerily act the same way as the mother does in Mommie Dearest. Are there any movies/shows about infantilizing children/adult children or toxic enmeshment by the way?? I would love to watch it.
Just watched the scene with Lorelei and Rory in the graveyard. Her complete unwillingness to even hear Rory out edit: about the book idea - it always takes me by surprise when she's being totally selfish.
Second edit:. This is her daughter asking, not the paparazzi. She didn't have to say yes, but she could have listened.
Some people don't mind having their biography written. It's a thing. It's not guaranteed that someone would say no to the offer.
She has never even seen the movie. She’s 17. I told her she should watch the movie so she knows what she’s saying about me. She said no thanks lol
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That's my opinion after rewatching. It is so wrong and bad... that after a couple of rewatches you start making fun of it. Then you can't stop laughing at how bad it is. It is hilariously bad. I think it will become iconic like Mommie dearest. Something over the top, unrealistic and gag inducing... but you can't look away from the car crash baby.
So folks after the revelation of how/why this grift started I did a Google search for Hilaria pregnant images. It was helpful to see so many images side by side. I never was fully invested in belly gate but it’s completely obvious which of her pregnancies was real (Carmen) and which were not. I compared her other ‘pregnancies’ to prosthetic baby bumps. If you want to take the time … the fake bellies are low and ski slope like, also wildly round. I would like to mention that at 8ish months pregnant a babies head is pressing on and stretching pelvic regions… so the waddle, swelling, posture and weight distribution changes. Hillary looks absolutely pregnant with Carmen and absolutely not with the other kids. I’m not saying it is impossible but I am saying it’s HIGHLY improbable that she ever carried a second child.
My mom made me watch this movie at a very young age as a representation of “how bad it could really be”… and after years of therapy I’ve come to the conclusion that she has narcissistic personality disorder.
Ex best friend also was shown the movie by her mom… who has borderline PD. Boyfriend’s mom showed him and she has (god knows what personality disorder), sub abuse + more.
Ex boyfriend has a secure attachment with his mom and he never even heard of the movie.
DO YOU SEE THE CORRELATION HERE? Can anyone else tell me if it’s true for them?
DISCLAIMER: this is in no way shame or judgement to those living with the mentioned mental health diagnosis, but towards mothers with untreated issues they project on their children. If I’ve misspoken, please enlighten me kindly as I would like to learn and improve myself.
It’s my Mother’s Day too, I’m a mom. But I have to spend it with her. For eighteen years, she has rarely said Happy Mother’s Day to me because it is her day, therefore she cannot see why she should have to say it to me or my sisters. We all go to a family function and watch all our aunts exchange gifts with their daughters, we give our mom her presents, and that’s that.
It is a day full of conflict. I do love my mom; she has cancer that’s well maintained but she likely won’t live for another five years. But she was physically and mentally abusive and likely has BPD or is a classic narcissist. It has taken me years to heal from it.
It is so. damn. hard. to even find a card that I actually want to give her.
And yet I feel so much guilt because I have many friends and family members that would do anything for another day with their mothers. And friends who have lost children, that would give anything for another day with them.
It’s just not always a great day for so many people.
A lot of us with Nparents are familiar with the story of Mommie Dearest, if you aren't, a girl named Christina was adopted and raised by Joan Crawford, an actress in the 30s/40s. Behind closed doors her mom was an abusive narcissistic alcoholic, she wrote a book about everything shortly after her mom died and it was made into a movie a while later.
Many people thought that Christina was lying for money/attention. From wikipedia, "Some of Joan's friends disputed the version of events presented in Mommie Dearest. Among them were Van Johnson, Cesar Romero, Bob Hope, Barbara Stanwyck, Sydney Guilaroff, Ann Blyth, Gary Gray, and particularly Myrna Loy, Joan's friend since 1925. While acknowledging that Joan was highly ambitious for much of her life, critics have suggested that Christina embellished her story."
So of course we have outsiders and people who don't live with Joan who are saying she isn't abusive. No shit, she isn't going to abuse her kid in front of her friends!!! Also there are pics online of Christina and Joan looking happy together and people think that's enough to prove she wasn't abusive, why tf would there be pics of her abusing Christina??
Of course people who know my mom think I'm crazy that I know my mom is abusive, well abusers are going to look like the perfect parents in public and you have to help your parents keep up that lie. Even my moms closest friends can't imagine her being abusive, but I'm the only one that saw that side to her.
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Renan’s mother doesn’t greet us at the door when we arrive. I attempt to introduce myself while she cooked dinner and again she didn’t have time. She isn’t the definition of charming in any culture that I’ve ever experienced. During dinner there wasn’t much conversation, she got my name and introduced herself as Clara. The rest of the empty air was filled with the sound a small blender next to her, pulverizing every piece of food she ate. She explained it as having some illness that prevents her from chewing solid food. She doesn’t seem to care much for Renan, and even less for me. She ignored me but constantly asked how he could leave his mother behind and demanded to know what he was doing. He’d attempt to explain, and she’d just cut him off to talk about how much she struggles when he’s gone. I can’t seem to figure out what is actually wrong with her other than wanting to dominate his attention and probably life.
After dinner, I offer to help with dishes, but Renan insists I relax after the trip. I’m left in the living room with Clara. She flips through channels on the screen, scrolling on her tablet every now and then. Eventually she settles on the Martian Patriot News Network. A small man with thin and balding hair screams and yells about the human population on Mars decreasing for a seventh year in a row, Enka refugees flooding in and pressures from Earth to change various laws. I learn a lot about history just from researching old music and looking up the things mentioned in lyrics. It’s funny how people thought conservative politics were dying at several points through history. Then as humans started colonizing various places beyond Earth, safe havens became possible. Mars was one of the first colonies, and surprisingly became a hotspot that a nuclear winter couldn’t even cool.
“Do you know what the problem is? Why we can’t keep up a steady population,” Clara calmly asks.
“Younger people might not have the funds to start families right now. It’s a cycle that many species in different cultures go through,” I give my best answer.
“No, it’s because we’ve got too many glowls.”
“What?”
“Too many glowls. Not concerned with starting family and being productive members of
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Lol. Flashback. It's the early 90's and Mommy-not-so-dearest and I are watching Mommie Dearest (Joan Crawford bio film- aka "No wire hangers!") on Turner Classic Movies. My mom huffs and rolls her eyes so often in the background, my memory of the film is swiss-cheesed by how often I turned over my shoulder to gauge her reactions. (Another subconscious, self-protective habit I did with some frequency.) At the end, when the daughter learns the abusive mother has disinherited her, my mother proclaimed a verdict.
"Serves her right! See? Money was all she (the daughter) ever cared about. Writing a book and spilling all that family business? After everything her mother did for her, she was just a greedy, ungrateful attention seeker. Disgusting."
The only other thing that stands tall in my memory is how she dismissed all but the most memorable piece of abuse depicted (the beating with the hanger), despite there being many shown in the film, as if she'd not seen any of the other examples. Perhaps because she couldn't sweep something that iconic under the rug. It wasn't even her abuse, and yet she felt the need to protect it, deny it. Years later, when I confronted her with her own abusive behavior, she was well practiced in the words and actions of denial.
I watched mommie dearest for the first time yesterday and when I saw Faye Dunaway's makeup it immediately reminded me of Tammie. And looking a little bit closer you can see the way she paints her lips looks very similar and she also has those crazy eyebrows!
am I reading too much into it or is it a weird coincidence? 🤔
It was both a great and terrible idea. Interested to hear how other people are handling today.
Apart from the John Waters connection to both, moral of the story be: bitches be crazy, and should never have kids.
Have you noticed that the only people who think that had bad acting are people who grew up in happy functional families?
