So folks after the revelation of how/why this grift started I did a Google search for Hilaria pregnant images. It was helpful to see so many images side by side. I never was fully invested in belly gate but it’s completely obvious which of her pregnancies was real (Carmen) and which were not. I compared her other ‘pregnancies’ to prosthetic baby bumps. If you want to take the time … the fake bellies are low and ski slope like, also wildly round. I would like to mention that at 8ish months pregnant a babies head is pressing on and stretching pelvic regions… so the waddle, swelling, posture and weight distribution changes. Hillary looks absolutely pregnant with Carmen and absolutely not with the other kids. I’m not saying it is impossible but I am saying it’s HIGHLY improbable that she ever carried a second child.
Lol. Flashback. It's the early 90's and Mommy-not-so-dearest and I are watching Mommie Dearest (Joan Crawford bio film- aka "No wire hangers!") on Turner Classic Movies. My mom huffs and rolls her eyes so often in the background, my memory of the film is swiss-cheesed by how often I turned over my shoulder to gauge her reactions. (Another subconscious, self-protective habit I did with some frequency.) At the end, when the daughter learns the abusive mother has disinherited her, my mother proclaimed a verdict.
"Serves her right! See? Money was all she (the daughter) ever cared about. Writing a book and spilling all that family business? After everything her mother did for her, she was just a greedy, ungrateful attention seeker. Disgusting."
The only other thing that stands tall in my memory is how she dismissed all but the most memorable piece of abuse depicted (the beating with the hanger), despite there being many shown in the film, as if she'd not seen any of the other examples. Perhaps because she couldn't sweep something that iconic under the rug. It wasn't even her abuse, and yet she felt the need to protect it, deny it. Years later, when I confronted her with her own abusive behavior, she was well practiced in the words and actions of denial.
A lot of us with Nparents are familiar with the story of Mommie Dearest, if you aren't, a girl named Christina was adopted and raised by Joan Crawford, an actress in the 30s/40s. Behind closed doors her mom was an abusive narcissistic alcoholic, she wrote a book about everything shortly after her mom died and it was made into a movie a while later.
Many people thought that Christina was lying for money/attention. From wikipedia, "Some of Joan's friends disputed the version of events presented in Mommie Dearest. Among them were Van Johnson, Cesar Romero, Bob Hope, Barbara Stanwyck, Sydney Guilaroff, Ann Blyth, Gary Gray, and particularly Myrna Loy, Joan's friend since 1925. While acknowledging that Joan was highly ambitious for much of her life, critics have suggested that Christina embellished her story."
So of course we have outsiders and people who don't live with Joan who are saying she isn't abusive. No shit, she isn't going to abuse her kid in front of her friends!!! Also there are pics online of Christina and Joan looking happy together and people think that's enough to prove she wasn't abusive, why tf would there be pics of her abusing Christina??
Of course people who know my mom think I'm crazy that I know my mom is abusive, well abusers are going to look like the perfect parents in public and you have to help your parents keep up that lie. Even my moms closest friends can't imagine her being abusive, but I'm the only one that saw that side to her.
End rant.
It’s my Mother’s Day too, I’m a mom. But I have to spend it with her. For eighteen years, she has rarely said Happy Mother’s Day to me because it is her day, therefore she cannot see why she should have to say it to me or my sisters. We all go to a family function and watch all our aunts exchange gifts with their daughters, we give our mom her presents, and that’s that.
It is a day full of conflict. I do love my mom; she has cancer that’s well maintained but she likely won’t live for another five years. But she was physically and mentally abusive and likely has BPD or is a classic narcissist. It has taken me years to heal from it.
It is so. damn. hard. to even find a card that I actually want to give her.
And yet I feel so much guilt because I have many friends and family members that would do anything for another day with their mothers. And friends who have lost children, that would give anything for another day with them.
It’s just not always a great day for so many people.
I watched mommie dearest for the first time yesterday and when I saw Faye Dunaway's makeup it immediately reminded me of Tammie. And looking a little bit closer you can see the way she paints her lips looks very similar and she also has those crazy eyebrows!
am I reading too much into it or is it a weird coincidence? 🤔
What should I watch next !?
Apart from the John Waters connection to both, moral of the story be: bitches be crazy, and should never have kids.
It was both a great and terrible idea. Interested to hear how other people are handling today.
Mommie Dearest - In order to get through to Lily about Julian's manipulating ways, Stefan and Damon confront their mother with painful memories from their childhood. However, when Lily reveals a dark secret she's been harboring for over 160 years, Stefan and Damon are left questioning everything they've ever known about their family. Determined to prove himself to Lily, Enzo comes face-to-face with Julian and challenges him to a duel, but an unexpected twist threatens to complicate things. Elsewhere, Matt finds himself in the middle of a deepening mystery involving the residents of Mystic Falls, and Caroline's world is turned upside down when Valerie reveals some life-changing news to her. Bonnie and Alaric also appear.
- Written by: James Stoteraux & Chad Fiveash
- Directed by: Tony Solomons
- Originally aired: November 19, 2015
Have you noticed that the only people who think that had bad acting are people who grew up in happy functional families?
My mom and my nephew are interested in seeing this movie since the new Bluray release got announced, and I thought it would be a neat idea if they saw this episode before it did. But I can't find it anywhere to watch, and I can't find anyone that has it for download. I've tried generic Google video searches, as well as torrents, and no one seems to have it.
Does anyone here know of some secret area where Snob videos are available to watch?
Thanks!
Came across the 1981 'Mommie Dearest' playing on a TV channel. It was based on a memoir by Crawford's adopted daughter, Christina, but it features Joan as having narcissistic characteristics. I cannot get through the scenes where she abuses her daughter Christina, especially when she cuts the little girl's hair while she plays with her mother's makeup.
She really loses when the studio-head of MGM tells her to leave as she's been labeled "box-office poison" as many movies she has starred in lost money. It's really hard to watch this as I would rather say mean words to Joan for being a "terrible mother" and a very "selfish woman".
Now, I know that it's drama, but was Joan really that terrible in real life? Faye Dunaway really overdid it in depicting a narcissist.
"...a painful experience that drones on endlessly." - Roger Ebert
Based on Joan Crawford's adopted daughter's autobiography,Mommie Dearest is an oddity in the annals of cinema, a film which harbours such terrible family secrets and dark, almost taboo, depictions of child abuse that has earned a reputation as a campy, cult classic. This supposedly authentic recreation of Christina Crawford's upbringing should be a cautionary tale, an intense insight into the terror that comes along with the emotional and physical abuse of a child but instead the film has come to be perceived as an unintentional comedy, spurred forward by Faye Dunaway's now infamous performance as Crawford and a multitude of instantly quotable one liners that sound like they would be more at home in a Jon Waters film (my favourite being Gregg Savitt's comment on Crawford's drinking - "When you were a kid that made you look sexy. Now it just makes you look drunk.")
I sat down to watch Mommie Dearest knowing full well of its reputation (this in fact being the reason I was so interested in it) but was puzzled to find myself quite emotionally effected by the scenes of abuse rather than being able to find any sort of humour in them. This isn't to say the film as a whole is particularly good; it is, in fact, fairly atrocious in terms of its shoddy set design, tonal inconsistencies and warped sense of pacing but I wasn't able to fully immerse myself in what I had heard was a fun filled, campy misadventure due to the fact that the abuse scenes seemed so inexorably authentic. I'm not quite sure that watching a woman beat her child with a wire coathanger is ever comedic, despite the melodrama or laughable dialogue that may have come before it.
The most derided and infamous aspect of the film's legacy lies in Dunaway's extravagant performance as Joan Crawford. The outright insanity and evil that Dunaway purveys throughout the film means she becomes the center of attention for the audience and, because of this, any insight or subtext is lost upon the viewer. Like a tornado she manages to draw everything in the scene into her sphere whilst simultaneously tearing everything in it apart, both physically and cinematically. Strangely though, I would be hesitant to deride the performance as bad. It certainly has a negative effect on the film as a whole but Dunaway herself is hypnotic and compelling, channeling a raw dynamism into what could have been merely an impression. Pauline Kael herself has sai
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“Where’s the rest of the money?!” Chad yelled into the old lady’s face.
We had broken into the lady's home after hearing from a fellow convict that she had $10,000 hidden somewhere in the house.
“That’s all I have,” she whimpered, gesturing at the meager collection of bills and coins Chad had pulled out of her purse and tossed onto the kitchen table.
“Stop lying.” He pressed his gun against her temple, “We know you’ve got more hidden somewhere. Tell us where it is and you won’t get hurt.”
The old lady turned and looked at me. She was terrified. I could see it written all over her face. I even thought I caught a whiff of urine, making me think she had pissed her pants.
“Maybe she doesn’t have it,” I suggested to Chad. If she was as scared as she looked, I was certain she would have given us money if she had it.
“I’m not leaving here without the money.” He swung the gun in my direction, “Search the place.” He gestured with the pistol. “If she won’t tell us where it is, we’ll just have to find it ourselves.”
I knew better than to protest when Chad was like that so I started to search the kitchen, looking for something I knew we’d never find. While I did that, Chad walked into the adjoining living room and began searching there.
“Please be careful with that,” the old lady begged.
I turned to find Chad holding an antique porcelain doll in his hand.
“It was my daughter’s,” she explained.
“Sounds like the perfect place to hide some cash,” Chad said, raising the doll over his head before slamming it down onto the hardwood floor.
When the doll broke, it shattered into a hundred pieces and expelled a massive cloud of fine grey dust.
“You shouldn’t have done that,” the old lady said.
“What the fuck was in that thing,” Chad yelled, brushing the dust from his clothes.
“Her ashes,” she replied.
“I should shoot you,” Chad snarled.
After he spoke I felt the room grow cold, Cold enough that I could see my breath. A few seconds later all of the cabinets and drawers began to rattle. Before long it felt like the whole house was shaking.
“What’s going on?” I looked over at the lady.
“I told him to be careful,” she said to me.
“We should go,” I called out to Chad, but my words were cut off when the door between the rooms slammed shut.
“Where the fuck did you come from?” I heard Chad’s muffled voice through the door.
There shouldn’t have been anyone in the room with him.
“I live here,” a young girl replied to Chad’s question, “Where the fuck did you come f
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