Manosphere Puns

I’ve seen a lot of the black redpill guys always talking about black women in kind of an odd. I know a couple of months Kevin Samuels was even saying that domestic violence against black was barely real and that black women are barely being abused.

Also I remember seeing a different clip from Kevin Samuels that said black women are the enemy. He also said black women are the least desired and no one wants us, and that we should be grateful to even find a relationship.

Fresh & Fit, two black guys that have a dating podcast said that they only date other races (which is fine to have a preference) but what they said after that was it's because we're a bunch of ghetto and ratchet shaniquas and lakeeshas and they dont want to be "nightriders" and they dont "dabble in the dark". When I saw that clip on twitter I was really weirded out. When closing my eyes it literally sounds like what white dudes on 4chan say

This has been basically increasing. There's a youtube dude named "Oshay duke jackson" and he makes black manosphere videos and he covers relationship stuff. When theres videos about black men with white women the comments are like "go where you are appreciated king!". When he posts about a black woman celebrity who starts dating a white man the comments are all snide and backhanded. For example he literally STARTED a rumor that Serena Williams and her white husband got divorced and the comments were like "FINALLY!!" or "I hope he takes that bitches money in divorce". Keep in mind that this was a rumor and the comments didn't care and were in glee at the dumb video believing it.

I feel like a lot of people don't realize the effect of the redpill community on the blackpill community and it has been rising. Incels and podcasts have been a hot topic on black twitter this week.

Do you know what is causing this? Do these men suffer from self hate and trauma? Is there any way to help and push back on their ideas?

I’m thinking about how to raise a healthy happy son. I think at around 10 years old a serious talk about drugs, porn (drugs basically) and the manosphere logic is essential. Then hopefully from there the dad can do most the guidance with this.

I’d tell my son that there is a culture of masculine cult like advice, that acknowledges that the far left is super corrupt but then uses this to justify horrible life style choices and deny corruption in other political spheres. And allot of the corruption on the far left is clearly misogynistic and the far left is not organized by only feminism.

I’d tell him science has already proven the healthiest diets, blue zone diets, all low in red meat. That the manosphere obsession with red meat is bizarre and they make bizarre claims about Inuit culture. That unless you are from one of the few ethnicities that eat tons of organ meats it is a bizarre choice and eating steak everyday is not the same. So it’s highly illogical to be obsessed with red meat and these men are to stupid to understand that traditional diets high in meat included organ meats. And none of these cultures with these traditional diets are known for longevity.

I’d tell him that to Center his life on meaningless sex is sad, will make him a bad father and could lead to never being a father. That waiting to be a father until your 50 is a bad idea and very sad delusional men are encouraging this, it might work out but it will be a waste.

I will tell him life can be frustrating, women can be difficult, I just don’t want you to misunderstand life through this bizarre lens that is usually written by sad, porn addicted 50 year old losers. The manosphere is dangerous and misleads a lot of young men. You deserve better. Toxic philosophies are common because life is confusing and difficult but I want you to be happy and safe.

Beyond the appearances of akademiks wilding on twitch and being entertaining, he’s a very savvy businessman and knows everything about entertainment,marketing and content.

He’s explained what happened with Myron not being warned, he completed cleared the air, so this is out of the way now.

The manosphere is now mainly a bunch of clowns backbiting, envious of those that are getting successful like FF. A bunch of crabs in a bucket.

If FF stuck to the classic manosphere, they would be capped and start going downhill in views and dead subs.

To appeal to a wider audience, you have to constantly find an edge. They’ll always be RP, but they don’t have to stay in the manosphere box.

90% of the manosphere channels aren’t tech,media or entertainment savvy enough to get out of this box.

Ak opened a huge door to FF by posting them on his page constantly, making them go viral back to back, getting them connections (6ix9ine, wack, Kodak etc) . They leveraged that to get a bunch of other rappers on the show (slim Jimmy,hotboii,foolio). They’re on shade room now, the sky is the limit .

We have to admit it, Rollo was wrong here.

He’s a smart guy, but entertainment,social media , marketing is Djakademiks specialty.

Ak is a businessman first, he cares about profit and growth, so he makes the best moves to maximize that.

The way FF is headed now, they’re gonna be a staple in the culture, and if they don’t get stopped by YouTube, they’re eventually looking at huge deals .

All this noise that FnF is making is putting a lot of eyes on the space that only want to destroy it. Since Patrice O’Neal and Tom Leykis, the manosphere has always existed but it was sort of like a secret society that one only found after a heartbreak or disenchanting experience with a woman. In my opinion, FnF are far too brash to spear head this move and are putting themselves in a lot of risk. Just check Twitter and see all of the men AND women who want to take not only them, but the entire manosphere down. I honestly feel like what they’re trying to do isn’t going to help the space and might do a lot of damage. I generally agree with them but their strategy is just way to brash in my opinion

Can somebody sum up for me why the Black Manosphere seem to have collectively turned on Fresh and Fit?

I learned of them fairly recent when Kevin Samuels was on. But then the abba and preach beef started, and I noticed what "seem" like the whole black Manosphere turned on them and now I see nothing but Fresh and Fit hate videos. But why? If this was all from the Fresh and Fit vs Abba and Preach beef, why did everybody seem to have took one side in the Manosphere?
I am starting to see some of the white Manosphere turn on them to. But why?

Events happened today, If you know you know. I hope Kevin takes over now with the newer style he is implementing.

I think he just needs to bring in more wife material type girls next but I see no issue with mixing both types for younger and older guys. Thoughts?

More info: I’m a black man in my early 20’s and I got on Reddit around 2016 during the beginning of the Red pill becoming mainstream. At the time it was primarily dominated by white men but it evolved… I remember at first the typical “face” of the red pill was an unsuccessful white nerd trying to figure out "game” but now there is no face. I think this is something people aren’t paying enough attention too. I feel like we need more POC of menlibs to speak up and have open arms for men like me who feel Reddit isn’t for them either or they can’t find a safe space here.

Since I was a kid I always "felt” my blackness and I was taught from a young age that I need to understand how the world views you. So off the bat I knew I had "expectations” in a way. All our lives we we know we "have” to be a certain way and we get it from every gender and color. Hyperagency essentially

I know especially for cishet black men we have very rigid gender boundaries we can’t generally cross them and men are expected to be even more masculine among our gender dynamics and to an extent only praised after being fetishized (ex: Tall,endowed,stoic,wealthy,) It’s not even that guys like that don’t exist it’s that if you don’t fit that mold you are weak and you aren’t attractive and you are a bum. The burden of performance may be higher with expectations to end poverty/black excellence. I honestly think this is why we’re seeing a rise in black manosphere channels. I’d like to mention I don’t align with these beliefs nor am I condoning it but for most black men no matter what your socioeconomic status is, we can all relate to the standard of black masculinity and what it means and as someone who discovered the existence of the red pill at a vulnerable point in my teen years and managed not to fall into the trap, I wonder how many other men are gonna be stumbling into these spaces just to feel understood. People are afraid to lose and fall behind.

I feel like a lot of (well intentioned) white feminist/ally’s don’t connect well to the group I’m talking about here and we need more male role models and activist (ex: fd signifier) to make these men feel understood and comfortable over their masculinity and experiences.

We had to be the model minority and be proper just to be heard so that led us to become deeply conservative for years socially, after we all we were fighting to become a respected race and any sign of weakness could not be shown to white america. Most of the manosphere/aud

I just came from watching a video on YouTube (I won't give the channel clout) and it was a podcast of men discussing men's improvement, pretty much something we all advocate for in this community. PMP was one of the four guests and these dudes started the first 10-15 minutes clowning Fresh and just lying about what FnF really are about. It was disappointing because Lapeef (who was also on there) is someone I would've liked to see guest star on FnF. Ive been a fan of most of those dudes before I discovered FnF so it sucked seeing them sound like all the other clowns that hate on FnF.

The amount of channels that would've been great collabs with FnF but decided to join the hate bandwagon back in August and the recent Miranda situation and effectively burn any potential bridge with FnF are just mind bogglingly stupid.

MTR TLA (hate em or love him he would've been an interesting guest) PMP Hell let's be honest Aba was definitely one of the better guests on the show compared to the incoherent rappers that frequent the show.

It's just amazing to see so many people forgoe a future collab with FnF just to join the hate bandwagon under the guise of "criticisms" or "holding people accountable" When FnF reach 1 million alot of these dudes are going to regret not working with them and growing in the manosphere.

Rant over.

#Stayoverthere2022

Good on you John Somnez.

Good on you.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=akmMRJ6QShY

I been following this community since the early 2000s. It used to be about fitness, travel, and self inprovement. Now it has literally become a place where people bitch about women or push ideology. If i hear somebody say "Clean your room" or "High value male" one more time imma have a damn STROKE.

These sites claim to increase your confidence, make you more “alpha”, and promote complete non-sensical scientific claims about all women.

Women really just want to be loved and happy like everyone else. They aren’t villains. They aren’t all cheaters or gold diggers looking for something better.

These sites are a business, much like anything else relating to dating advice. Unfortunately it’s all f******* wrong.

Being an asshole to women and trying to act tough around women is cringey as fuck and will not help you if you’re a “nice guy.”

Don’t STOP being nice to people, male or female, kindness is such an undervalued attribute, particularly today. If you’ve been friend-zoned, yes, you may have to evaluate some things such as: hygiene, neediness, and your confidence, but it doesn’t mean you have to be something you’re not.

Confidence is NOT being a roided out gym rat that is narcissistic. Hell, you can be awkward, but if you know who you are and own it, who gives a fuck? Women, and all people, dig people that are themselves. Working on your self-worth and evaluating yourself DOES NOT mean being someone else. Be you, just make some refinements.

There’s not “perfect” way to “get” a girl. All women are different. Yes, all of them. Like anyone, they all have their preferences. Do a lot of women physically like a muscular man that’s conventionally attractive? Sure, just like most men like women that are similar. But guess what? That doesn’t mean they all want or need that type of person, which is valid across both sexes. Beautiful people can actually become gross if their personality is dog shit.

Alpha/Beta male theory is a fallacy. Quit comparing yourself to others and start comparing yourself to you. Be better than yourself. Life isn’t fair and doesn’t always give us the best genes. Go work your ass off, highlight your strong points, and build on your weak ones.

Understand that you have no control. You are a meatball on a spinning globe, circling a ball of fusion that can incinerate you at any moment. Nothing is for certain. You only will ever gain a sense of control when you understand you have no control. This will set you free and help you feel less insecure/needy.

Lastly, Be kind to yourselves. Men offer so much value to the world. You can be full of hate and anger or you can manifest joy and happiness. The choice is yours; don’t let this toxic masculinity destroy the value you bring to this life.

I see a lot of people dislike freshnfit but who in the manosphere has better work ethic than them ? last7 days alone they have produced 10 podcasts 27 videos altogether not including fresh and fit clips.

Almost every other channel highly advises against marriage (which I agree with). How is this reconciled?

Hi, I'm a 5'9", 22 years old, skinny and a bit shy and yet I've had many partner options without the need for TRP, I just discovered the community and those ideas didn't fit or didn't make much sense or logic to the couple dynamics.

Just read the Incel wiki and channels of those branches of the manosphere to see the brutal amount of misogyny, the titles they use a lot in the videos, articles, the mental straws that are made to convince you that women are the worst thing in the world makes a very toxic environment and pollute many men's minds, that those men are in this reddit telling their bad experiences with the Red Pill.

You can even see on my reddit profile several posts, debunking certain MGTOW and TRP ideas. Another example is about hybristophilia or about ''chads'' that women according to manosphere, on manosphere LATAM, several MGTOW channels used a study that claimed that abusive men in schools had more sexual partners, my friend (F), read the whole study and guess what........ the study said that abusive women had more sexual partners than abusive men xd xd xd xd xd xd, the study is Provenzano (2017). And this is one of the things I hate, they distort reality, they generalize a lot in every aspect, they manipulate 99% of the studies just to leave women bad and create insecurities in men, this due to the they seek to be loved for what they are but a bunch of clowns tell you with manipulated and even false studies the following: women just want your money and that you are bad and abusive. Bone, that disillusions them and creates a great insecurity creating more resentment.

Also the stupid things that are invented, for example about sexual desire, about a study, that women lose sexual desire after marriage and this supposedly to obtain resources. But the truth does not make any sense, %45 of women in the USA earn more than their husbands and more than %75 contribute to the household .... So there is no logic to what they say. Even unmarried women do the same. And about many distorted and manipulated issues I would talk to you here.

As a plus, just watch mgtow tv literally when it happened in Afghanistan, many celebrated happily as a woman was whipped by the Taliban and still complain that YouTube censored them, no wonder and worse the comments on the channels, the amount of misogyny is impressive is even similar to RADFEM.

Finally, the MGTOWs think they can change or veil their ''problems'' of men with their whining in order to get the attenti