warning: kind of long but i wanted to explain as well as i could bc… blinks are scary
ever since lisa’s debut (mainly money) lisa has just been a disappointment tbh. at one point she was my fav in bp but now ever since she went solo all i associate her with when i look at her is a try hard, wannabe rapper. she became so lame to me within a spilt second after watching money. lisa is now the girl with ‘thai braids’ who does the most stereotypical imitation of black rappers for her debut hiphop concept. tell me, why is her concept… black woman… all ca issues aside, if you really think about it that is so incredibly odd and strange on her part as a grown woman with international impact and millions of young kids looking up to her. why is it that in order for her to have a rap song with a hiphop inspired concept she HAS to talk about twerking, money, use aave, weak attempts at sounding hard by using swear words, talking about catching a case, guns, wearing braids and laying her ‘edges’… that’s really what she associates rap and rap culture with, i don’t know why people don’t see that as an issue itself, she’s enabling stereotypes :/ it’s clear what her intentions were with this one, i don’t care if she claims she did it bc she thought it was ‘cool’, that’s every other culture vulture’s excuse. the red braids werent even the only thing she did. everything from those stereotypical rap lyrics that were not executed well at all because they were written by an asian man in his 40s and a white woman, the accent, ‘edges’ which were her bangs laid onto her forehead😩, other braids from the edges photoshoot with the hairs sticking out of the braid bc it wasn’t done by someone who knows how to do these hairstyles.. like damn if ur gonna act like a different race then at least do it right. and wasn’t the main part of her solo supposed to be her celebrating her thai heritage, if she was actually embracing her culture she would shave her whole head and leave one tiny patch that has a braid because that’s actually what a thai braid is. the worst part tho is that jennie and lisa both claimed to be educated this type of stuff a couple of years ago in an interview when asked about being asian ‘rappers’. lisa also got backlash from ktl and was aware of it but yet she turned around and contradicted herself with her solo that she said she had creative control over. it’s just straight ignorance from someone with that kind of international following bc now there’s asian girls rapp
... keep reading on reddit ➡i downloaded all lisas songs on amazon her voice matches her face so sexy
During her Say So stage, it was obvious that her talent lies with rapping and dancing, as her self written rap was the highlight of her solo stage. Her singing was off, and she sounded forced singing in that pitch, which you can hear when she switched into her rap and is just oozing confidence. It may have been the song choice, but she sounded very nasally.
I think this is unpopular because of how forgiving blinks are of BP. While I don’t think that it’s a bad thing to be trained solely as a rapper, but she’s also a sub-vocalist, which she should be well trained for as well
I've watched BLACKPINK clips and then compare that to how they sing. and I've noticed that Lisa puts on a "blaccent" when she raps sometimes similar to how Iggy Azalea raps.
Most times while Lisa is very talented in her rapping, she just sounds like a Thai version of Iggy Azalea.
urban dictionary definition of blaccent:
A manner of speaking indicative of the stereotypical African American (or someone trying sound as such).
And no i'm not faulting her for it because I think YG makes her put on this voice. Because when she speaks she has this very sweet, girly voice but then she raps it doesn't match her speaking like Jennie's
Not about the song but kinda. I hate how Lisa is slowly becoming the main rapper in HYLT. I'm not blaming this on Lisa obviously because she's not at fault, it's just that I'm so disappointed at Teddy or whoever arranged the parts for the song. Jennie is the main rapper and Lisa is the main dancer but looking at the HYLT line distribution it seems like Lisa is the main rapper instead of Jennie which is totally disappointing. This happened with As if It's your last too so I really want to see rapper Jennie back and I don't understand why YG or Teddy seem to forget the members' positions? I mean, come on.
Honestly if I didn’t know Lisa before, the way a lot of y’all describe her I’d be convinced she’s the least talented idol in history or something.
Now I know people are gonna say in the comments “Lisa is very popular so she’s bound to get a lot of hate”, but come on y’all damn well know it goes beyond that…Like Jungkook is more popular but I don’t see countless essays on this site citing how overrated and untalented he is.
As for her skills yes she is a great dancer (albeit hasn’t had much opportunity to present her skills minus her dance videos), and she gets more hype that other dancers who might be more skilled but Lisa can’t help her popularity. Then I always see conflating narratives like some think she’s too stiff but others think she’s sloppy? So which is it.
And the hate she gets for doing aegyo is ridiculous since every idol and their momma does it in kpop. Y’all can tolerate idols mooing and barking without hesitation but someone gushing over a cat is where y’all draw the line.
Overall Lisa is a nice and sweet person but kpop stans are convinced that she’s this horrible two-faced witch, and defend those who actually have more controversial attitudes 💀.
gonna wait for this to get downvoted maybe if I said “Lisa bad” I’d get 1k upvotes and 50 rewards.
😂😂 it is funny that people think that any of the raps are great. If you don’t write your lyrics you are not a rapper I need to speak cringe lyrics (especially the lyrics in Ddd, aiiyl, ice cream.. basically 90% of their discography),that is even worse. Stop with the overhype.
Source: invented k-rap and tablo studied under me. !!!
Lisa is the most amazing kpop idol in history, STAY MAD YOU DOGS 🐶😡
SHE DID NOT 🙅♀️DO CULTURAL APPROPRIATION THOSE ARE THAI BRAIDS 🤬🤬 AND ANYWAY YOUR FAVES CULTURAL APPROPRIATE TOO SO SHE ISNT BAD 🥱🥴
Lisa is exactly the same as Nicki, Megan and Doja, but she doesn’t use blaccent 🤪🥰 Lisa is better THAN DOJA 😘😘 She’s the BEST RAPPER IN THE INDUSTRY AND IS WAYYYY MORE SUCCESSFUL AND INFKUENTIAL THAN NICKI AND KENDRICK 😊😊
Also LISA IS BY FARRR THE BEST DANCER AND RAPPER, and one of the best vocalists 😘😘 any idol in the whole industry would wet their pants and be beaten by Lisa stay mad 🤣🤣
AND NO, NO PLASTIC SURGERY THERE 😡😡😡🤬😡😡😡😡 she is a natural gal 💁♀️❤️
And Lisa is actually cute, not like your bias. Stay mad ugly floppers 🥰💅
/uj source: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpoprants/comments/rtef4g/comment/hqtfto1/
Because a lot of people like me expected it to be her life story which would allude to her struggles as an international artist in Korea and her journey but it instead ended up her talking about absolutely random shit like flinstones!?
They could have literally replaced Lalisa with something else and it would have flowed because what is ‘Lalisa, love me, Lalisa love me’ even supposed to mean? By itself it isn’t even a fully standing sentence.
Even in audience perception it feels weird to sing a song with someone’s names being called this many times!? Not to mention that most junior groups won’t even cover it for the same reason because what business do they have singing a song about ‘Lalisa’?
I think the intent was to show off her popularity and badass image by giving the title as Lalisa but it just ended up becoming cringe. They should have just stuck to some generic name and made a dance pop and it would have done so much better.
And I honestly feel you need a certain musical history of dropping a ton of solo hits before you can call your next song this. For example makes sense for Beyonce to come up with Yonce or Bitch I am Madonna. It represents legacy in a way. But for a debut I don’t think its the best title.
YG’s taking the CL path with her by overly capitalizing on the savage image to the point of no return. Teddy giving CL songs like the baddest female is the equivalent of Lisa getting Lalisa. Wish they would tone it down because it doesn’t match her off stage image at all.
i remember when her solo was released and how everyone ripped it to shred. i mean i get why some didnt like the songs but some people were just being straight up mean and vicious, so seeing how everyone likes her part the most (or her and megans) makes me so happy. i hope she gets to work with dj snake again in the future. and plus i havent seen any fights or back and forths between lilies and blinks on twitter, its just memes, streaming in between and just and all round nice time, which has never happened. idk if that will change but for now I'm busking in it.
I seriously like it. I'm not inlove with it, but I don't hate it.
I remember when I first heard Forever Young I was like "who is this voice?" it's so refreshing and then I later realized that it was her. I don't care if it's processed or what but whatever I am hearing, I actually like it. Live singing is another topic because I don't really watch that much live stages of groups I don't stan so I don't know if its screechy when she sings live or if she sounds bad. Her Say So cover is an excemption tho I don't think her voice fits that kind of song :/
Now, I'm not saying she should be main vocal or lead vocal, I know some of y'all might twist my words. All I'm saying is I kinda dig it. I'm also not saying she should be a vocalist instead, that's just a no no for me.
I think its unpopular because I always see criticisms about her voice, not saying I disagree, but I just enjoy her singing voice. That's literally why I made this post.
P.S. I'm not sure about the flair, tell me if I should change it.
For the past 3 years I got Blackpink's D4 on repeat. Quite frankly I'm obsessed with that song especially Jennie's rap part. After hearing that part for the first time I needed a scalp reconstruction surgery because my wig was snatched THAT hard.
For 3 YEARS I've been craving for more and I swear if we never get that again I'm going to explode! I might consider flying to SK and protest infront of YGE😤
D4 2.0 they say D4 3.0 they… okay so where is Main Rapper Jennie 2.0 and 3.0??? I love KTL and HYLT I also love Jennie as a vocal but what I don't love is Blackpink's lack of comebacks and their lack of Main Rapper Jennie.
I was on a trip down memory lane after seeing The Rose’s newest song “Beauty and the Beast” since the band made a comeback after like two years due to contract disagreements with their previous company (poor treatment, no/low pay despite successful tours😞). And as I went down memory lane, I remembered the group VAV and started listening to all their title tracks.
Anyways, just wanted to give a shoutout and write an appreciation post to VAV as an entire group but primarily highlighting Ayno and Lou. I’m not a rap enthusiast or expert or anything, but with my limited knowledge, I’ve always enjoyed their flow and rhythm. And I also found out that they write most of their rap lyrics and have done some music producing for the bsides on their newest album, in addition to releasing some self produced songs on youtube too. I just respect how much they put into their craft and improving. I’m not a huge boy group fan, but I know there are some great and talented male rappers and idol rappers out there. Just wanted to praise Ayno and Lou as well!
I was lowkey inspired by a post on r/unpopularkpopopinions that talked about the rap skills of BlackPink’s Lisa which touched on cultural appropriation. And it just made me wonder of how many idol rappers put on a blaccent and portray black stereotypes when rapping. I’m not sure how many actually do, but I don’t believe Ayno and Lou do so that’s a plus in my book at least. Sorry if the post is all over the place, just having some 3am thoughts
They make it rain.
Thank you for so many replies. Now I've got a long list of talented female rappers to listen to 😌
Turns out they frown upon ad heminem
In case of a Lil Wayne
Might be a weird question, so more or less what’s a guilty pleasure of yours in terms of rappers in Hip Hop from any generation. For an example, my favorite rapper who isn’t considered “good” or super lyrical is Crunchy Black from Three 6 Mafia. Nothing he ever spits is spectacular, pretty much subpar lyrically but something about his vocal melodies just has me rapping his verses out loud anyways. Any takers? Don’t take this thread too seriously lol
It was the first sentence he could actually finish
I see a lot of people praising Lisa for her dancing skills (as it should be) but I don't think she can be considered a great rapper. She can be considered a good idol rapper but I don't think she even classify as a rapper. I don't know much about rap but everytime there is a post on reddit about idol rappers it's always like: the real rappers are BTS rap line and Stray Kids rap line because they write their own songs (I took them just for example). As someone who don't know much about rap I think this should mean that Lisa isn't a rapper but more like an idol rapper because she doesn't write her raps (maybe I just couldn't find anything, if she wrote something I apologize). I've always seen people saying that SM hasn't good rappers but why isn't Chanyeol considered a rapper? He wrote way more songs than Lisa and still people considered him just as an idol rapper and not as a real rapper. I don't want to compare Lisa to Chanyeol, I just want to know what makes an idol rapper a real rapper. Please don't start fanwars, mine is a genuine question, I'm not trying to offend anyone
Groups or solo artists are fine
I don’t want to say she’s the best because I have absolutely NO knowledge about the rap genre whatsoever. I also don’t know every single rapper in the Kpop industry.
That being said, I really really love Lisa’s voice and the way she raps. She sounds different in almost every song which makes it really fun to listen to. Her part is HYLK was absolutely amazing.
Is this lowkey turning into an appreciation post?😆
I just wish they stopped giving her cringey English lyrics or at least keep it in Korean so we don’t know what it means (sorry Kfans ly)
Lisa is a better rapper than Jennie because rapping in a foreign language is harder than rapping in your own so I think if Lisa ever raps in Thailand we will notice the difference between them.
Jennie used to live in Australia, so I don't think comparing their English rapping is fair but I think Lisa raps better than Jennie in English too.
But I think when the difference between their skills would become more noticeable it would be when we ever hear Lisa rap in her mother tongue.
The only problem I see with Lisa's rapping is when doing it live she runs out of breath (like all the members when they sing, they have to work on that) so it's like a hit or miss when she does it.
I'll probably add more later but this is an opinion from my sister I hear often. She adamantly believes Jennie from BlackPink should not be considered a rapper and should not be established as one in Blackpink. Her reasons are not that strong. "If Jennie was a rapper, her first solo would have been rap, like Lisa's" and "she just sings fast to make it seem like rap"
Her opinion is unpopular because she just doesn't consider Jennie as a rapper. It's not that she's a bad artist, just shouldn't be labeled as a rapper or one of the best.
I personally think she's more of a singer than rapper, and isn't the best but I would still consider her as a rapper.
Any good new female mcs with a similar flow to lisa left eye?
Before anything : NO HATE TOWARDS LISA AT ALL !!! I'm just here to give my opinion, I respect and love Lisa, I'm not a toxic blink trying to critize her. Thanks :)
So hey guys
Since Lisa's song, Money, has been released, I'm surprised of its "success" (I know some people have critized it, but didn't seen so much of them).
Honestly, I wanted to have your opinion : isn't the song theme... I don't know, I can't explain... Weird ?
We're not gonna lie, Lisa is extremely famous, and I guess extremely rich (if that damn YG entertainement does its job correctly, for once), and of course she must have money. A lot.
But isn't it a bit strange to sing about how much you have money ? I know, I KNOW, it's a song, it doesn't mean at all she's acting that way irl. But am I really the only one who thinks it's a bit "rude" to sing about that kind of topics, when there are so many people who have nothing..?
Let me repeat myself : I don't hate Lisa. I love her. And sometimes I listen to money. And I don't think she's the one who wrote the lyrics (yeah definitly not her), I don't know if she wanted to sing that song or if it was imposed on her, but anyway... Please don't get me wrong, I really respect Lisa, Blackpink, and all of their beautiful work. They are AMAZING.
But I would really be interested in knowing your opinions. What do you think about that song ?
Hope to hear back from you :)
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