When you read the REAL history of Joseph Smith, you learn that he was clearly a con man with a certain mobile carpet bagger quality, who simply invented ideas and events; using religion to gain power, money, and sex. His most fantastical fabrications came when his authority was being questioned.

A few examples:

Glass looking and treasure digging: where he never actually found any treasure but conned people out of money. The reason he couldn't begin his new church in his hometown was because everyone there knew who he really was.

Then came the golden Bible company. The bofm with all of its wacky angelic manifestations and fictitious plates made of gold was supposed to make him rich. It didn't...nobody bought the books. No sooner had he conned and guilted gullible Martin into mortgaging his farm to pay for the printing, and then the books didn't sell, Joseph was gone (leaving the unsold books and debt with Martin to deal with)......Joseph was onto the next scam, escaping west with Rigdon and his congregation to start the communal Zion idea in Kirtland, and he would shockingly never really speak much about the bofm again.

Then with rigdon, when his authority began to be questioned, multiple things were fabricated, some things literally written in the margins when reprinting of the book of commandments......including the First Vision, the visits of Peter, James, John, the visit by John the Baptist, etc. It actually smacks of the Jon Lovitz SNL character: "yeah, that's it, then I saw John the Baptist, yeah, that's it, then I saw Peter and James and John, yeah, that's it".

Then there is the book of Abraham, which is hard to even discuss because it's so idiotic.... a total fabrication to claim he was a linguist with divine skills.....Scholars actually struggle to even describe how silly it is.

Then, after being chased out of Kirtland in the middle of the night (the barrels full of collateral coins for his homemade bank were actually filled with sand) , he pronounces to the leery skeptical members in Missouri that they live in the "literal garden of eden" . Lol. Apparently that impressed them enough that they esteemed him still a prophet.

He was really good at getting others to give him their money in exchange for eternal salvation for the giver and his (or usually, her) family in the hereafter. Or get teens to give him their inheritance when he married them so he could buy a riverboat.

Had he been alive today, he'd likely have been in jail within a year or two of his antics. The tarring and feathering of 1832 would today have been an arrest for for statutory rape. The bank society scam would have been a ponzi scheme conviction and prison for decades. The Nauvoo polyandry, polygamy, and having sex with teens would today land him in prison

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California Mom Claims Race Played A Factor After Her 7-Year-Old Son Was Questioned By Authorities After White Classmate Accused Him of Bringing Gun to School theblackdetour.com/califo…
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The Mormon Church offers nothing much unless you are married, male, straight, conservative, white, middle class or better and don't question authority too much. Good luck to to rest of you. You deserve better. Jesus didn't teach this shit!

Congratulations you can get a "high" calling if you fit this demographic, and of course pay tithing. otherwise you are just fucked! Sorry.

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When was the first time you questioned an authority figure in your life outside of your parents / immediate family?
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Did you hear about the guy that robbed the library for every book they had? When questioned on how he did it he told authorities he basically talked the librarian into letting him. So i guess you could say he got a way with words.
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What is the significance of Jesus writing on the ground in John 8:6 as he’s being questioned about the woman caught committing adultery?
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German police raid Chechen Islamists in four states after suspicion of "planning a serious violent act endangering the state", no mention of number of detained nor questioned by police, authorities prompted to carry out the raids after discovering suspicious cellphone pictures during police check dw.com/en/german-police-r…
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A US Senator has been stopped by Border Patrol a hundred miles within the border of the US, and the officer referred to his gun when questioned about his authority to make such a stop leahy.senate.gov/press/20…
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The father of New York and New Jersey bombing suspect Ahmad Rahami told ABC News that his wife and one of his other sons have been detained in Afghanistan, after being pulled off a flight in Dubai and questioned for 16 hours by authorities there. abcnews.go.com/US/nyc-bom…
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White House Shifted Authority Over Ukraine Aid Amid Legal Concerns: The White House gave a politically appointed official the authority to keep aid to Ukraine on hold after career budget staff members questioned the legality of delaying the funds, a shift that House Democrats are probing. wsj.com/articles/white-ho…
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Sheldon Whitehouse on Twitter: "Oligarch questioned: the guy who bought Trump Florida estate and whose jet and yacht had an amazing habit of turning up in places where @realDonaldTrump was. I wonder what he might have to tell the authorities." twitter.com/SenWhitehouse…
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TIL that when a high school in Florida pulled Cory Doctorow's book "Little Brother" because it 'questioned authority', the author had free copies of the book emailed to every Grade 9 and 10 student at the school. reddit.com/r/todayilearne…
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"HongKong reporters covering Wuhan pneumonia outbreak were briefly detained and questioned by Chinese authorities on Tuesday. NowTV’s reporter was asked to delete footage from hospital - HKFP Twitter - Jan 14, 2020 twitter.com/HongKongFP/st…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/misterandosan
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More Bible Changes: Jesus's Family Now Openly Questioned Him and Considered Him "Out of His Mind"

This was brought to my attention by /u/lattes_and_lycra, who made a post about Jesus now allegedly having four brothers, and not only that, but purportedly, two (unnamed) sisters. He remarked that as a lifelong Christian he had never heard of such a theory. I hadn't either.

In any event, looking more into this potential ME, I came across evidence that in our current reality/timeline, the Bible now clearly states that members of Jesus's family ("his own people") considered him "out of his mind."

I grew up Catholic, and then converted to Lutheranism later on, after bouts of atheism and agnosticism, before eventually settling on general spirituality, which is where I am nowadays.

I spent many, many hours in Bible study, Sunday school, and at both Catholic Masses and Lutheran services over my 30+ years, and not once had I heard anything about Jesus's own family openly doubting him or questioning his divinity.

The entire story of the birth of Christ, in which Joseph and Mary shuttle baby Jesus away from his birthplace so as to avoid the wrath of King Herod is well-known. It is made clear in those stories that Joseph himself believed Jesus was divine, and did what he was told to avoid harm coming to him.

The idea that Jesus had siblings which openly mocked him goes against this, and I had never heard of such a thing.

Yet, in the Bible, there it is.

From Mark 3:21:

>20 Then Jesus went home, and once again a crowd gathered, so that He and His disciples could not even eat. 21 When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, β€œHe is out of His mind.” 22 And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, β€œHe is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, β€œBy the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”…

So, not only does his family state he is, essentially, insane, but others insist he is demonically-possessed, and that this possession is what gives him his power to perform miracles, such as driving out demons (exorcisms).

For those interested, the scripture goes on to say:

>23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: β€œHow can Satan drive out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes hi

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TIL that in 2016 lucastars, mod of r/politics, controlled and censored information over a population of 3 million people. A larger population than the city of Chicago. There were no elections or transparency for anyone who questioned this authority.
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The Real Bravehearts - ~20 Mainlander Chinese questioned again by authorities for making eye-cover gestures decrying police brutality in HK. hk.epochtimes.com/news/20…
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ah yes jesus, famous for getting along *great* with authority and the violent enforcers of state justice
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Actor favoritism on GoT by 2D- how some characters were favored because they liked the actors who played them. They're smug cunts who would be vindictive towards anyone who questioned their absolute authority, so it jives with me. Here's what I think:

Do you guys think 2D spite-wrote some characters played by actors they didn't like?

  1. Benioff's wife had a huge crush on Kit so they put in plenty of small dick jokes and short jokes. He was reduced to a LITERAL meme for his portrayal of Jon snow this season.
  2. We all know what happened with the Barristan Selmy actor... How him trying to reason with them about why Barristan had an important role and shouldn't be killed off only made them "want to kill him more".
  3. NCW said he has been fighting with them about his character since Season 4 (when Jaime breaks up with Cersei in the books and starts coming into his own). He also has recounted on numerous occasions that his best work was the bathtub confession. They put in a needless "Tbh, I never really cared much for them. Innocent or otherwise" line that retroactively ruins the "Kissed by fire" scene. He also said his favorite scene was Jaime leaving Cersei and KL in season 7, and said Jaime meant "I don't love you and I don't believe in this relationship anymore" when he left...then we find out Jaime goes back to die with Cersei...(I know he's been defending them now, but we have half a decade's worth of interviews saying he's been fighting for his character to leave Cersei). It's also IN CANON that he's the stupidest Lannister (despite calling someone who's dyslexic ableist as hell).
  4. Meanwhile, they like Lena so they OP'd Cersei and made her the final villain, and gave her a sympathetic death. Not to mention, it made no narrative sense for her to even exist in the show for the past couple seasons.
  5. They expanded Bronn's role because they like Jerome Flynn. He ends up becoming "Master of coin" cos ReAsOnS

Edit: two actors I left off the list

  1. They love Maisie Williams so they gave her a storyline that made no sense for her character, and destroyed Jon's POV 7 season storyline. Not to mention, the KL massacre was also from her POV even though she has no connection to the smallfolk there and added nothing to the story and her character

  2. Sansa "smartest person Arya's ever met" Stark is Benioff's favorite character. I don't know if this is because they like Sophie or if it's because they screwed her character with the Ramsay rape and overcompensated by rewarding her for doing fuck-all.

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Ecuador has agreed to allow Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to be questioned by the Swedish authorities at the Ecuadorean embassy in London | Mr Assange took refuge there three years ago to avoid extradition to Sweden on charges of sexual assault against two women in 2010. bbc.co.uk/news/world-lati…
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Authority figures of Reddit.. how do you handle being questioned ?
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Authorities are investigating an attack on a black missionary for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a possible hate crime in Payson. wboc.com/story/41705151/b…
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Popular comedian temporarily leaves Russia for security reasons after police opened investigation into performance in which he made off-color jokes about Virgin Mary and Jesus β€” laws make it illegal to insult feelings of religious believers and affront authorities online. β€œI’m very frightened..." reuters.com/article/us-ru…
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