Craig Blomberg and Lee Strobel in The Case for Christ: Arrian and Plutarch wrote the two earliest biographies of Alexander the Great over 400 years after his death. Also legendary material about Alexander only developed after these two writers.

For those who don't know, The Case for Christ is a (in)famous Christian apologetics book by Lee Strobel. In one chapter of the book, Strobel interviews the scholar Craig Blomberg. On page 27 of this edition of the book, Blomberg says:

>The two earliest biographies of Alexander the Great were written by Arrian and Plutarch more than four hundred years after Alexander’s death in 323 B.C., yet historians consider them to be generally trustworthy. Yes, legendary material did develop over time, but it was only in the centuries after those two writers.
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>In other words, the first five hundred years kept Alexander’s story pretty much intact; legendary material began to emerge over the next five hundred years. So whether the Gospel were written sixty years or thirty years after the life of Jesus, the amount of time is negligible by comparison. It’s almost a nonissue.

This quote has been used often by Christian apologists. Now I am not the first person to point out how stupid this quote is. But as far as I can tell no one has made a post about this on this sub, so I figured I would repeat some issues with this quote that others have mentioned as well as add some points of my own.

So what is wrong with what Blomberg said?

Well first off, as Matthew Ferguson points out, there were biographies of Alexander written before Arrian and Plutarch wrote about him:

>Didn’t Alexander have a personal historian who traveled with him and wrote about his deeds during his campaigns? That’s right, Callisthenes of Olynthus (360–328 BCE) was Alexander’s official biographer, who wrote contemporary to his life (not half a century later). This is a piece of information that would be covered in any undergraduate course about Greek history. Oh, by the way, there were other authors, who were eyewitnesses and who wrote either contemporary to Alexander (356–323 BCE) or within a couple decades after his death. Just to name some others:
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>Anaximenes of Lampsacus (c. 380–320 BCE; Greek historian and contemporary)
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>Aristobulus of Cassandreia (c. 375–301 BCE; Greek historian and companion of Alexander)
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>Eumenes (362β€”316 BCE; companion and Greek scholar)
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>Nearchus (360β€”300

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The Book of Three by Lloyd Alexander [Jody Lee]
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This baby would go on selling out shows and arenas and being one of the most successful entertainers in the industry. Big up JJ❀️
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Unpopular Opinion: With ✌️& ❀️ but Moses is a str8 up Coward for allowing her to continue to talk bad on both Ethan n Hila. His response to someone (deleted tiktok comment) was that they’re all entertainers who are there to entertain ppl when she’s str8 up disrespecting them online. Am i wrong or?
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Me playing The Entertainer at around 2-3 months after starting to play the piano. I kinda want to play it again, any ways I can improve? v.redd.it/8vv1hrv0c6871
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The "iDoLs ArE eNtErTaInErS, nOt sInGeRs/DaNcErS" excuse has got to go

I've seen this SO MANY TIMES here on Reddit, where people are generally more logical about kpop than on other platforms, so it's very surprising. Here are some examples I've seen myself of this excuse being used, in case you somehow haven't seen it in action:

  1. Main argument: Idols should sing live more, especially when sitting/standing on stage when there's not intense choreography. It's part of their job to do so.

  2. Response: Actually, idols are entertainers, so they don't have to sing.

  3. Main argument: [Insert idol name] should have trained more in dancing before debuting. It's like they've been set up for failure because they're in a dance heavy group.

  4. Response: Idols don't have to dance well; they're entertainers, not dancers.

  5. Main argument: It seems strange for a member to have subpar singing and dancing skills, but still be allowed to debut bc they are visually pleasing.

  6. Response: It doesn't matter if they can't sing or dance since they are entertainers and can shine in other areas.

First of all... who in the world made up this definition of kpop idols being entertainers?? They are k-pop idols, as in Korean pop idols. Pop is a genre of music. Of course their job is going to revolve around music. If they aren't supposed to sing and dance, why are they in bands/music groups??? Please make it make sense????

Yes, participating in variety shows, or modeling, or acting, or MCing does come into play in a lot of these idols' careers, but they originally debuted as a part of a music group. Singing and dancing is undoubtedly the main focus of their job. The other skills are auxiliary.

If you are hired as a cook at McDonald's, but you burn everything, you'll will be fired. It will not save you to say, "Well, I'm actually a McDonald's employee, not just a cook; I excel at taking orders from customers, which is part of being a McDonald's employee." You're still losing your job because you were hired as a cook. If you wanted to take orders, you should've applied to be a cashier instead. Similarly, if certain kpop idols wanted to kill it on variety shows or as a model, but not sing or dance, they should've taken a different career path. Claiming that singing or dancing is not the job of a kpop idol makes no sense at all. It's literally inherent in the definition of their title.

Seriously, I've seen this "idols = entertainers" excuse several times this week alone. On a post about live singing a couple weeks ago, someone responded t

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Charles Lee, Philip, Alexander... anyone else?
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Alexander the Great vs Robert E. Lee

They each get an army of 100,000 men of equal skill and strength. They also get equal resources. The only difference between the armies is the leadership. They know about each other

Scenario 1: They are using medieval weaponry

Scenario 2: Using WWII infantry weapons (basically no vehicles)

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Sexarbejder by night. BΓΈrne entertainer by day 🀒 to ting der bare gΓ₯ perfekt sammen. reddit.com/gallery/occtjz
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This remarkable image comes from our collection here at the National Museum of Civil War Medicine. This is Dr. Lee Massey Alexander, a Confederate surgeon who served in Missouri and in the Indian Territory (modern-day Oklahoma) during the Civil War.
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This remarkable image comes from our collection here at the National Museum of Civil War Medicine. This is Dr. Lee Massey Alexander, a Confederate surgeon who served in Missouri and in the Indian Territory (modern-day Oklahoma) during the Civil War.
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Nugu Roundup #77 - LGBT Pride Month Special Edition - 210606 + Album Giveaway!

Hello and welcome to a Special Edition of the Nugu Roundup!

What is this?: This is a bi-weekly feature designed to highlight the unknown/underappreciated groups and soloists working hard in the Kpop world that often fall under the radar. Please share your own information, favorite performance videos, fanmeet stories, or anything else relevant below!

Last roundup we got spent some time with ICU! This week , since it's Pride Month, let's have a Special Edition looking at songs and artists who've made strides towards Korean LGBT acceptance!

Standard 'Special Edition' rules are in effect, so artists that aren't strictly 'nugu' but who are underrated and/or not familiar with the greater Kpop community will be included.

Look at the first comment below for the winner of the 30th album giveaway plus details on this roundup's album up for grabs!

What is Nugu?: While in Korean it literally means 'Who' in the broader Kpop context it refers to groups that are generally unknown amongst the greater public. It doesn't have to mean they're extremely new, though it can, and there are of course varying degrees of 'unknown' which some groups having very strong niche fandoms and others being almost invisible. I take a fairly broad view and will include groups that may be known to some, but who don't have widespread name recognition.

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ARTIST

Harisu

Who?: Harisu was Korea's first openly transgender entertainer, and only the second person in Korea to legally change their gender. With a career that involved music, modeling, and acting she blazed a trail for transgender acceptance. Her stage name comes from a transliteration of "Hot Issue".

Real Name: Lee Kyung Eun

Age: 46 (IA)

Debut: September 21st, 2001 with Temptation (MV) Live Stage (Link)

  • Song: A strong techno influenced dance song, this was the promoted track from her debut album "Wild Temptation".
  • Composers/Producers: Yoon Il Sang (Gain - Irreversible, Raina & Nada - Piggyback Ride, Lee Moon Sae - [Unpredictable Life](
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A woke person is one who learns Law from an Entertainer, Civics from a Naxal, Hinduism from a Missionary & Secularism from an Islamist. hinduism is bad bro, halala is good
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A Meeting of Entertainers

All kinds of performers, stuntmen, actors, magicians, jesters, gladiators, dancers, singers, strippers even. Any kind of person who’s job it is to entertain an audience is welcome here.

Have your entertainer characters come to a party/meetup. Here they can talk, show off, and do anything else they want.

Any questions, just ask.

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Scott Joplin's (1868-1917) The Entertainer. Level depends on tempo. Slower/inter, fast/advanced. Really fun to play. Free PDF tab/music link and details in the comments❀️ v.redd.it/r0ylr19pwm271
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On a professional entertainers group the MLM's seem to have infiltrated
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How should I use entertainers?

I just got a Lianelee with 90% strenght so I would lile to know how do you guys use entertainers. Should I just ignore the light clothes and weapons and give her a heavy armor and a mace? Also, should I feed her using gruel as I do with others? Thanks

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What is your reaction to those fans (mostly idols) who are hating entertainers by some one mistake or just misunderstanding in characters?

if there's anger in your mind let it out here, because i have some 🀣

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Ragtime was an important precursor to Jazz. Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer" on Guitar (Chet Atkins version) ❀️ v.redd.it/cdixnvyjym271
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