Fan fiction, voyeurism and lack of respect - Tweets from Liberty's sister

Hi,

I apologize if a similar posts has already been written. I also don't know whether my post will be deleted or not, because it questions what we like versus what we should do, and it is a tough topic for most people.

Like a lot of you, learning about Chadwell was a bombshell, but after listening to the latest True Crime Garage episodes about it, I couldn't shake the feeling that something was wrong and despair quickly replaced hope.

The more I read, the more I agreed with what even the hosts of TCG suspect: this has indeed been blown out of proportion.

I don't want to judge anyone, even if it might seem like I do. I want to have a discussion about what it means to be "fans" of true crime, whether our interest is dedicated to just one case or many.

What do we want to do with our interest, what should we do? I believe a majority of us, me included, love mysteries. We love to speculate, to hypothesize, we enjoy gaining knowledge about how the justice system work, criminal behaviour, forensics, etc. I totally get why so many people are drawn to true crime.

But sometimes we forget these are real people, real stories, real families that still suffer today. Family and friends who read us. Who ask us to HELP. Sometimes helping means NOT talking about something. And that's what I'm getting at: should we do more to help, and if so, how can we do it more efficiently?

Going back to Chadwell and the Delphi Murders: this person is NOT a suspect. He is not suspected of having killed the two girls. I can't stress this enough. There is a huge difference between being a suspect and being a person of interest. Person of interest has no legal meaning by the way.

Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby told ABC News they were "looking into it". They didn't even make a press conference. I truly don't know why this Sheriff has mentioned this to the press, because the result was a big storm of reactions that have, as far as I know, NOT helped the case, and even damaged it, because the family has to read people on the net making comments such as "a tattoo looking like Liberty", "OMG it's the guy from the sketch", etc. Most of what I read is a strong confirmation bias caused by our desire to see this case resolved, and it leads to what is closer to fan fiction than good hypotheses.

What motivated me to write this post is Kelsi German, Liberty's sister, Twitter feed. I ache for this woman who has to go through the same cycle of pain each time a name is linked to the c

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πŸ‘€︎ u/Luna2323
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Deliberate sexual voyeurism...

Screw you. You're no better than a predator. Kids watch your channel! UNDERWEAR IS PRIVATE, BATHING SUITS ARE NOT. There IS a difference. Age restrict the damn channel. You know how many heads you just messed with doing that??? You did mine and I'm a grown woman. I was sexually abused and that kind of surprise voyeurism triggered a lot of s***. Thanks.

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Voyeurism At Swinger Resorts & Events

My partner and I aren't currently swingers. Never been to any resorts, events, or invited by another couple. Just wanted to throw that out in case this sounds dumb.

So obviously everything begins with consent, but are there rules or norms to watching other couples at a resort or event? Found a swingers resort that specifically says "...enjoy our resort while you join in or just watch..." I thought going to watch several times would be a good way for my wife and I to ease into the life style

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Victim of voyeurism in UPEI washroom says university failed her cbc.ca/amp/1.5989508
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πŸ‘€︎ u/pickingatthescab
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Men and voyeurism

Between June and September 2019 I was in a situationship with this guy. Never made it official, tonnes of red flags etc. He left me for another woman who he eventually got engaged to.

Today I received the news from his ex fiancee that he had been arrested for assault as he put his hands around her throat during an argument. She spoke to the police and he was eventually charged with assault, criminal damage, rape and voyeurism.

Why does this involve me? Well it turns out the little scrote was audio recording every time I went round to his. Every conversation and every time we had sex had been recorded. Hours upon hours of it. He would press record on his phone as soon as I arrived and stop it when I left. I had absolutely no idea this was happening. He did it to me, to his fiancee and two other women.

I feel sick and a bit dirty as he was obviously getting off to listening to our sex sessions but I also have to laugh because there must have been hours of mundane conversation to go through just to listen to 30 mins max of sex noises.

Men and their depravity, eh?

Edit: it hadn't sunk in when I first wrote this post which is why I don't seem bothered. Hours later and now I am so deflated. Only 2 weeks ago I found out an ex colleague had been charged with possessing CP and now this.

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I found out I am a victim of voyeurism from my long term boyfriend

Apologies for formatting in advance, I'm on mobile and at work so this is typed up a bit quickly.

I'm not really sure what I'm looking for. Maybe it's support, maybe it's advice, or maybe it's just to generally vent.

Recently, I discovered that my boyfriend, who I have been living with for five years, had a secretive, hidden album of naked pictures of me taken without my knowledge. Some are taken the morning after, while I'm sleeping, with little to no clothes on, some are taken while I was freshly out of the shower and doing my post-shower beauty routine. Finding this out has severely jarred me.

This is not the first time. The first time, I caught him trying to record my masturbating. I confronted him about it and he came up with an excuse that I (naively) believed. Now, I'm not so sure I believe his excuse and think he was just trying to cover his tracks. Now I am realizing this is a pattern.

It makes me sick because I have no idea when this started or how long it has been going on. It makes me feel extremely violated, objectified and just overall creeped out. This person who I have trusted for years now suddenly makes me uncomfortable in the space I help pay for. I am now uncomfortable being around him naked, am constantly worried that I am going to be taped.

My view of him has changed drastically after finding out this information. I feel almost disgusted by his touch. I think he's entitled and misogynistic. I wonder how he actually views me. Am I even a person to him? Or just a tailor-made receptacle for his pleasure?

On top of this, when confronted the second time, he tried to defend it. Saying that while he enjoys my nudes that I willingly send him, he prefers the one he takes because it's "natural" and "more meaningful". Like no, dude, it's straight up creepy and there's literally no other word to describe it. And besides that, I live with you. I see you literally every single day. What's more natural than that? And I know he knows it's wrong because if he didn't have anything to hide and thought, truly thought, that it was acceptable, the album wouldn't have been hidden deep within his phone and his eyes would not have flickered with panic when he realized that everything was about to come out.

I don't know guys. Help me come to terms with this. Please.

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Man accused of video voyeurism in grocery store arrested news4jax.com/news/local/2…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/horseradishking
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that one time a niceguy i rejected admitted to actual stalking and voyeurism :\ also, why must they use so many emojis?
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Unisex Facilities put women and girls at risk of assault. 90% of complaints regarding changing room sexual assaults, voyeurism and harassment are about incidents in unisex facilities. independent.co.uk/life-st…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/MarbleWorld
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No jail time for man charged with voyeurism after incident in UPEI bathroom theguardian.pe.ca/news/lo…
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Man Bites Dog - Voyeurism, Violence & Gallows Humour youtube.com/watch?v=0OCTz…
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Voyeurism or art?

Lately I’ve been thinking about beauty of the human body in its natural form. I think that’s the best way to put it. For most people here, I think(or at least hope) I’m preaching to the choir, but I’d like to hear other opinions as well, even if you agree but are putting it in your own words. Or want to respectfully disagree. I think if I posted this in most other subs or on my own social media pages I’d mostly get disagreements.

I’ve been thinking about why I initially loved the idea of nudity, and more specifically social nudity. Aside from an experience last year I haven’t really tried much social nudity. But for as long as I can remember I’ve always wanted to be with others nude. Always wished I had grown up in a world without clothes and when people ask why I got into this lifestyle, many reasons come to mind. So many benefits that I could list for a while. But one in particular comes to mind that not everyone may agree with, at times even in the world of nonsexual nudity. What’s your opinion: is it ok to enjoy looking at nude bodies, not in a sexual way per se (Voyeurism/pornographic) but to enjoy looking at the beauty of the human body in its natural form? I know it’s not polite to stare or gawk and I understand that and why. I’m not talking about β€œchecking people out.” I’m talking about the way I would enjoy looking at any human body nude, regardless of age, gender, color, or size (whether you are considered β€œfit”). Including the ability to look at another mans penis without being gay about it. Or the mindset of β€œadmiring” a woman’s breasts in a nonsexual way. Just appreciating the fact that all human bodies are beautiful, not just the body as a whole, but all individual parts. I’m hoping others can voice my thoughts better than I can. So when people ask why I enjoy the lifestyle and why I wish I could live in a clothes-free world, I think about all the different art I would be able to see if all the clothes were removed. This applies to all parts of the human body. I know I would never want to make anyone uncomfortable for β€œstaring” but at the same time and for these reasons mentioned, it makes me wish I could see more naked bodies in person and being nude as well so others could enjoy my body without any of us feeling uncomfortable about it.

On this note, I love when I see posts (pictures or texts or both) about people talking about going to nude beaches or resorts or growing up nudist, have helped them feel comfortable nude and comfortable wi

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πŸ‘€︎ u/quincy12393
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The connection between voyeurism and film watching, with the help of Roger Ebert

Hey guys, I put some thoughts into a video about Ebert's "empathy machine" concept. It's something I think about lots and use it to justify lots of my movie-viewing experiences. Very curious what you think.

I've found that it comes down to turning off any output. In both experiences. It's why the theater setting works so well: there's zero possibility to output anything from the self. Voyeurism and film watching are both all about taking your ego out of the equation, which is exactly why it's so primed for empathy.

https://youtu.be/NYM_sHB2H9w

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πŸ‘€︎ u/GrahamCooper
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Does god have a voyeurism fetish?

Why else would it matter to god what sex humans sleep with? Since god is all knowing and watching us at all times, it’d make more sense that gay sex is just a turn off for him. I wonder what his bdsm test results would be.

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Property manager charged with voyeurism after tenants find two-way mirror in bathroom cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s…
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Voyeurism in Clayton Vale

*exhibitionism, oops.

Just a heads up to other people that at about 10.30 this morning I went for a run through Clayton Vale and as I ran up the left eastern facing path (if that makes sense) along the river, there was a middle aged couple on the right side of the path going for it in doggy style. I originally thought he was going to the toilet then got a full frontal show to her genitalia as she hoisted her pants and jeans up while laughing.

I'm all for people having fun but it was 10.30AM on a Saturday so they were obviously aware that it wasn't the most private environment. I had to warn a family coming up the path because they had young kids and the man involved smiled at me in an immensely creepy way as I looked over which has made me feel really uncomfortable and not want to run there anymore.

Is this a regular thing or have I just been really unfortunate?

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How to express your disapproval of your friends' interest in voyeurism
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Research is "Voyeurism" now, apparently reddit.com/gallery/n17fm8
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πŸ‘€︎ u/Redstoneprime
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I can't work out what my sexuality is - I'm female and I’m only aroused by the objectifying male gaze and voyeurism without necessarily participating.

I have always had a high sex drive. I think about it al lot of the time. I often project that other people are thinking about it when they’re not. I check out a lot of people I walk by. I had a porn addiction when I was 17 (and sexually active) when I'm with people that I don't know very well - I make an extra effort not to mention sex. I'm super open about sex and have been masturbating (sometimes involuntarily) since I was 3. Writing this makes me think "Oh Jesus, you're an addict" but I swear it sounds worse than it is.

When I talk to female friends (of all sexualities) about sex, I always become aware that I process it differently. Sometimes I get this strange jealousy around anyone I know having sex with their partners. It's like - that's what I secretly focus on. It's not that I want to participate but I suppose it's a big curiosity on what it must be like.

So this is the main bit I want to confess: When I masturbate I have to visualize a loosely narrative scenario. I have about 3-5 scenarios that circulate. These are the reoccurring patterns: It's always an older white married male with traditional straight sexual desires and a girl that fits the typical straight fantasy.

I NEVER participate in these scenarios, I'm a purely invisible voyeur as if it was a film.

Super male-gazey right! I hate all of the objectification and stereotyping - but I'm just being super confessional and honest with how my mind operates. Apologies if it’s not totally PC.

In reality, I like to think I'm attracted to convictive people that are creative, empathic, and punky. But they don't turn up in my fantasies!

I have this guy I'm sexually active with and have been for years. I love him, and he's nice to have sex with. But I've never actually masturbated over him, not once! Not with anyone I know actually, ever! Even people I'm sexually curious about.

When it comes to having sex. I like it, I plan it in my head. But often the fantasy in my head is horny until I'm with that person (whether it be a "hot date", my regular partner, or whatever) I become really FRIGID. I'm frigid! On dates, I don't particularly want to touch and I don't want to kiss. I almost force myself to have sex with them (like ripping off a bandaid) but I don't think I necessarily want it.

When I'm having sex, I have to close my eyes and secretly imagine a scenario where it's not me, it's someone else, and I / that character in my head doesn't completely want it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy th

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[OC] An appreciation of Voyeurism [05:12] youtu.be/NYM_sHB2H9w
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Man Bites Dog (1992) - Voyeurism, Violence & Gallows Humour youtube.com/watch?v=0OCTz…
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Update on the student caught for alleged voyeurism, it will go to provincial court: kelownacapnews.com/news/u…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/OliverBagshaw
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Apparently, recording a video for research and education is "greedy" and "voyeurism".
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The pattern of David’s manipulation and voyeurism that started in Vernon Hills v.redd.it/j3dnvua422o61
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Man Bites Dog - Voyeurism, Violence & Gallows Humour [Belgium] youtube.com/watch?v=0OCTz…
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πŸ‘€︎ u/OliverBagshaw
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Student charged with voyeurism after RCMP's alleged mishandling of initial response - Student claims case nearly didn't make it to prosecution after officer expressed concern for suspect's future cbc.ca/news/canada/britis…
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