OP is a poster that declares "Minor Attracted Person (MAP)" as paedophiles, and "sex with minors" as rape. Some commenters wonder if this poster is as brave as it's trying to be, others get down to business analysing the intricate issues of what constitutes a sexuality, and whether the logic of excluding the so-called MAP from the LGBTQ is faulty, even if the goal is admirable. One user invokes 2nd amendment rights. Recent protests somehow make their way into the drama. Others dismiss the whole thing as a giant 4chan meme people fall for. Few propose killing all paedophiles.
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[That's because you don't understand the distinction between a sexuality and a paraphelia.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/rkag5h/comment/hp9g3by/?utm_sou
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From what I read it seems AGP is classified as both a sexual orientation and as a paraphilia.
Initially I thought, how can such an overarching "condition" which touches deeply on all aspects of personality and your responses to life in general be classified as a paraphilia comparable to a mere foot fetish perhaps? (The point is not to down play foot fetish either because it may very well indicate a submissive personality I imagine.)
It does seem to be an orientation and attraction to the "woman within."
Even in heterosexual relationships, if you analyze the AGP further, you might notice his first and foremost attraction is to the "woman within" which he seems to somehow extend to his partner/gf/wife.
One example I can think of is that some husbands get kind of jealous and uncomfortable if their wife dresses in something very provocative. On the other hand you might find the AGP very excited if his wife wears a minidress because he is still kind of looking at her with the "woman within" in mind, whereas otherwise he wouldn't be excited/turned on. The first says "this woman I love is mine" and the second kind of says "wow she looks so sexy I would dress the same" and they kind of seem to get some vicarious enjoyment out of it.
Or during sex he might imagine how it would be in her position.
Not sure about this but I think I read somewhere AGP might be linked to cuckold fetish? I assume also because here the husband looks at his wife again as "the woman within" which might be counterproductive to his pair bond. Who knows he might even imagine participating in a bisexual threesome.
I became more and more convinced that it is a paraphilia. Or perhaps we can call it an extreme "fetish" of some sort. I think the reason it doesn't sit right though is because as I said it seems deeply entrenched and manifests throughout the whole personality even leading many to transition as you know.
There is no reason to down play the erotic nature of it (it loses intensity after orgasm for example and just like somebody with a foot fetish, they are not always in the mood for feet), nor does it being a paraphilia undermine the seriousness of it or that it can be overwhelming and all encompassing.
In my case it helps me get a grasp on what it is. I'm much more comfortable with telling myself "it's a fetish dude." In my case it doesn't line up with my goals in life and I want to avoid this behavior (speaking personally). It's quite hard sometimes as evidenced and I'm sur
... keep reading on reddit ➡Think for a moment about zoophilia or pedophilia.... how do we know that those are paraphilic interests and not sexual orientation?
well this is the definition of sexual orientation: Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person's sense of identity based on these attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of other people who share these attractions.
This means that Sexual orientation is defined in terms of relationships with others. People express their sexual orientation through their behavior with others, even in actions as simple as holding hands or kissing. Thus, sexual orientation is closely linked to intimate personal relationships that respond to deeply felt needs for love, attachment, and intimacy. In addition to sexual behaviors, these bonds include affections expressed in physical but not sexual ways, shared purposes and values, mutual support, and ongoing commitment.
pedophilia [wanting to have sex with someone who is not of age and imposing it on him] and zoophilia [wanting to have sex with non-human animals and imposing it on him] are no sexual orientations, because those who do these things do not seek an intimate relationship as described with a child or an animal [who are clearly incapable of it] - they seek only sexual intercourse.
With the agp the thigs are more interesting because.. there is an actually attraction for the opposite sex which is inverted onto the self ... The autogynephile become BOTH SEXUALLY AND ROMANTICALLY attracted to the idea to be his own erotic target.. What pushes agp to feel euphoria while transitioning is the initmate and deep romantically connection with themselves.. For examples an AGP after the srs surgery admiring her vagina under the shower feels so emotional that star crying ( this is one real example ) this is the pure romantic parte to love themselves as women... so clearly AGP are both sexually and romantically motivated as a normal sexual orientation. Which is the reason why AGP should be considered a sexual orientation and not simply a paraphilia.. Remember Anne Lawrence ( BECOMING WHAT WE LOVE) yes this is it
As I remember someone describe it, "BDSM enthusiasts don't get depressed if they haven't whipped someone in a long time."
I'm 37M, same-sex oriented, but I haven't an active sexual life.
I didn't grow up with pets, and during my adult life I've met very few people who have pets.
Photos or videos that show men in contact with dogs or cats turn me on in a sexual way. I want to emphasize that I'm not talking about sexual contacts between men and animals. I refer to usual forms of contact between pets and their owners (eg, cuddling, licking, etc.). This is more intense when it involves contact with hairy zones of the male body (such as arms, legs, chest, beard).
I've never consumed pornographic material involving zoophilia and I'm not interested in it.
Can this situation be characterized as a paraphilia?
P.S.: English isn't my primary language. Sorry for writing problems.
So I’ve quit on the tenth of October to all porn and I’m 5 days strong but I still catch myself looking at pornography because I feel miserable without it but miserable with it how do I lose my attraction to lolis and stop getting these urges to view pornography
If AGP is a paraphilia, then why would so many people with AGP have high IQ, since people with paraphilia often have lower IQ.
I made this account and a community to try and get help/resources for people with paraphilia disorders!
It's such a stigmatized disorder that no one knows much about and I want help!! I don't want to deal with this anymore. I'm scared with it. And I don't know what to do about it. And from research it seems like there's nothing that will completely get rid of it, I don't want to deal with this shit forever. I feel like it's completely my fault for dumb (sexual) shit I did growing up [7-16] but didn't realize the mental impact it would cause.
I'm just reaching out if anyone here has anything that has worked for them, a friend, or a patient? And if you're suffering with this too I made a community for ONLY non-offending paraphiliacs that is open for ranting :) (Please dear God say something more useful than a bullet to the head joke)
Hello everyone, I suffer from porn addiction since 14y and I think this addiction lead me to voyeuristic disorder and frotteurism.
Voyeurism : I remember having urge to look friend of my sister in the shower, taking picture of ass girl..
Frotteurism : Touching girl ass in night club.
Now, I'm 22y and the urge decrease a lot but I have it sometimes, but less than before.
Hi there. So , i have a paraphilia ( extreme specific fetish ) , mainly induced by porn. Should I first rewire to more general / mainstream porn before try to go pornfree 100% ?
Im trying to cure my PIED
Any advice / suggestions / experiences on this?
Thanks!
Some can benefit from HRT and surgery, others can benefit from the numerous available forms of theraphy.
https://www.mentalhelp.net/sexual-disorders/paraphilias-causes-and-treatments/
Wondering if there's any correlation between this and ASPD. I find it difficult to get aroused and or climax unless I'm watching or imagining extreme material, often involving rape and fantastical situations. I was a victim of CSA and sexual abuse in my later teens so idk if it's more of a PTSD thing but I don't really see anyone bringing this up in CSA support groups.
To clarify, since paraphilia often gets conflated with pedophilia; the latter is a paraphilia but not what I'm talking about in the slightest, so let's not.
According to Blanchard, if intense gender dysphoria results only from autogynephilia, what other so-called paraphilias or sexual interests can cause significant psychological distress similar to dysphoria when they aren't fulfilled? I mean, what the theory is pretty-much suggesting is that AGP-induced dysphoria is like sexual frustration, no?--as though, if you're depressed because of dysphoria, it's like being an incel. But is gender dysphoria actually comparable to the feeling of sexual frustration? If not, something else may be at work. When people say that everything originates from something that's "just a fetish", it feels rather reductionistic of the actual feelings which come with dysphoria.
All my fetishes are of things I don't have access. Naturally, it can sometimes drive me crazy, but hey, I still live. I want to know if you had similar experiences with your fetishism.
Or are people just born that way?
Hi, I'm a woman in my early 20s. Obligatory throwaway because both my partner and I use reddit.
I've been dealing with a rare fetish ever since I became sexually aware. I was around 12 when I masturbated to that content online for the first time, even though I fantasized about it before, and I think this is where it all went downhill for me. I would have stages in life where I'm basically addicted to porn and I'd only watch this specific thing. I'm not comfortable in naming it because it's embarrassing and weird. I think it's rooted in childhood. I'm not a victim of abuse and my kink isn't illegal, just fucked up.
The thing is, I don't even know if I'd enjoy doing this in real life at all. I don't think I want to do this with my boyfriend. It feels like an ugly secret I keep from my partner and the world and I ocassionally masturbate to it. I haven't in over a month now because I'm trying to break the habit. I have no idea how he would react and thinking of him finding out makes me die inside.
Autogynephilia, or AGP, is a paraphilia where the idea of being a woman turns you on. Like forced feminization, crossdressing, and what have you. It's a bit of an umbrella term but you get the idea. It can exist on its own as a primary sexuality or it can coexist with heterosexuality. For me, I still retain a strong heterosexual drive within me, although it took some time to properly cultivate it. I've done a fair amount of tripping on shrooms and LSD, but I just realized that I never really tried to confront these sexual desires. So I was wondering if anyone here has attempted to treat AGP or any other paraphilias with psychedelics. Thanks in advance!
Meth is a one way ticket straight to the porn and all that comes with it. The problem begins when you are one of those people who have strange sexual paraphilias that on meth are hard to control, especially when watching porn isn't enough anymore and you now want to take that to reality over yourself. I've gained more control about it but sometimes you just don't know if the sexual impulses are going to take over your head and then make you try to do things that sober wouldn't take place. Thank God my personal paraphilia is related to things that are harmless to other people, and my only way to accomplish it is by paying a prostitute or some bitch around the area to help me satisfy my strange, nasty desires. With meth sometimes the desires become too strong and I spend hours and hours trying to find my way out to get my shit done.
I could only imagine how this would be for people who have paraphilias that are way darker than mine and dangerous to other people, like someone whose paraphilia is to sexually assault and abuse other people against their will, or even worse for someone whose paraphilias are related to murder and cannibalism, etc. That's why I don't like meth sometimes, but at least I don't have this kind of problems like other people do.
I don't want to elucidate the details. It's adjacent (though not equivalent, there's some key differences that makes it less of a closed matter and which add to the confusion) to the most taboo things you could possibly have arousal to, and I'm scared of the implications. I want this fetish/paraphilia to go away forever, but there are virtually zero resources online, and I don't know if I even want to mention it to a therapist. Everywhere online seems to suggest it's incurable/permanent. I can't imagine living the rest of my life like this, I'd honestly rather die than remain a monster.
I know it probably stems from some emotional trauma, but again, I don't know how to use that knowledge to actually fix it.
People still frame pedophilia as a sexuality or sexual orientation in their mind, and talk about it on Reddit as such.
According to the DSM V: a paraphilia is to “have a sexual desire or behavior that involves another person’s psychological distress, injury, or death, or a desire for sexual behaviors involving unwilling persons or persons unable to give legal consent.”
You can’t conflate sexual orientation (homosexual, heterosexual, bisexual, pansexual) with a mental disorder.
Mental disorders can be treated and people can go into remission. Sexual orientation cannot be treated because it’s not a mental illness. In fact, “treatment” for sexual orientation can do serious harm.
