Remarriage Puns

I’m curious about the situation for widows, particularly young widows. Would they have been considered less desirable? Would the widow having children make a difference?

Though often presented otherwise, there is strong evidence that Mark 10:11-12 is not presenting a universal prohibition of remarriage after divorce. The brief video linked below explains the argument in more detail-- do you have any objections?

Here is the argument in brief outline as well

1- Mark 10:2-12 is commonly employed by those who take the "no remarriage" view as a text in defense of their view

2- Mark 10:2-12 is recording the same interaction as Matthew 19:3-12

3- In Mark, where Pharisees are reported as asking about "divorce", Matthew records them as asking about "divorce for any cause"

4- Therefore, "divorce" is used in Mark as a short-hand to refer to "divorce for any cause"

5- If (4), then Mark's recording of the prohibition of divorce and remarriage in vv. 11-12 is not a universal prohibition, but is specifically targeted (based on contextual points established above) toward those divorces that are for "any cause"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCekIUy7WGA

When I divorced a few years ago, I truly didn’t think I’d have any desire to remarry. Was planning to raise my two kids still at home (have a 25, 17 and 5 year old). Remarried six months ago to an amazing man who has literally accepted my kiddos as his own, even my 25 year old Navy man adores him—usually calls him for advice which I love! This man gets on the floor and plays Barbies with my 5 year old daughter. My 17 year old son is struggling with his last year of school and a heartbreaking situation with his father, but has found true love in playing piano, writing and producing music and my husband happens to be a musician, helps my son navigate equipment and copywriting. My ex-hubs and new hubs are friends and we often have dinners together or just hang on the porch and have beer. It’s literally a dream I could never have pictured. For those who have given up on love—don’t ever! If it’s in your heart, it will find a way to you!

My wife divorced me. Her reasons:

1. She fell out of love and lost attraction

2. She felt like God was telling her to divorce me

3. After confessing she had been spending several evenings a week hanging out with another man, I confessed that in the past I had watched pornography.

She originally told me the divorce was due to her not loving me, but after the fact she added that the porn played a role.

My SO and I are divorced from 20 + year relationships with our high school sweethearts. During my first marriage I completed multiple professional degrees and started my career. Unfortunately, that means those documents are unable to be changed to a new name in the future. I adore my partner's last name and there is no question that I will take it when we marry. It looks like I will have to maintain one name in my professional life and another in my personal life. I'm simply frustrated at the system that allows no flexibility primarily for women in our society.

Do any of you have any experience building your career prior to marriage or living with two names?

Our situation is like this. She separated from me and divorced me. Her words: “I just don’t love you anymore, I’ve lost all feelings for you. And I feel like God is telling me to divorce you”

Can I remarry?

Hi, Throwaway b/c personal info ... Trying to help parents who informed me they're in an unusual situation. Would really appreciate some help cutting through some of this!

Her: 75 years old, currently collecting about $1k / mo

Him: 70 years old, currently collecting about $2200 / mo

They were married for about 20 years and then 1 random day about 20 years ago they got divorced. They never actually separated and continue to live together to this day.

They are considering remarrying each other, but there's concern around the uncertainty of how this could impact a widow's benefit for her if/when he passes away. She is healthier than him so there's reason to believe this is the order they'll pass.

This info from the ssa.gov makes it sound like it will have 0 impact:

Benefits paid to you as a surviving divorced spouse won't affect the benefit amount for other survivors getting benefits on the worker's record. If you remarry after you reach age 60 (age 50 if disabled), the remarriage will not affect your eligibility for survivors benefits.

This info creates some concern:

We will find you entitled to benefits as the widow or widower of a person who died fully insured if you meet the requirements in paragraphs (a) through (e) of this section: ... (1) Your relationship to the insured as a wife or husband lasted for at least 9 months immediately before the insured died.

In summary, the questions I am trying to clear up are:

• Does the benefit change if they remarry each other?
• What happens if they remarry each other and he passes prior to the 9 mos. limit?
• Is she eligible for a combination of her SS benefit + his (either widow's as divorced or as married if they go through with it) or only for whichever is higher?
• Anything I'm not asking that I should be here (e.g. other pros/cons of them remarrying officially)?

Why would God force one to remain single for the rest of their life once they get married and end up divorcing?

And he married the Vegas wife in season 10. Doesn't that make her the legal wife of Homer not marge? So in theory the Vegas wife gets half of Homers stuff.

Background: One of my friends, who is a strong evangelical Christian, went through a divorce a couple years ago. She recently got engaged to a wonderful guy, and I think they are great for each other! But I’m torn between being happy for her and thinking “but Jesus said remarriage after divorce is adultery, even though Protestants somehow skirt that passage.” I said a congratulations on their Facebook announcement* (because I’ve also been struggling with envy and trying to rejoice with the success of others, so that seemed like the right thing to do), but I’m not sure now whether I did the right thing. Question: do I need to bring this up with my friend, in terms of fraternal correction and all, or is it different because she’s not Catholic?

*EDIT: does this mean I was congratulating them on possible adultery? I previously asked about this issue in r/Catholicism and someone said that’s what I was doing.

So, this is a very concerning topic for me, because it's a particularly nuanced situation to a topic that is already WIDELY disagreed upon. It also happens to be one close to me, as it pertains to a friend of 5 years that I love immensely and really do wish to make my wife. She was previously married to an unbeliever in Christ, I have never married. I will break this decidely long and complex story into parts.

So, to the point, there will be a large amount of disccussion on sin and abuse here, from all concerning parties. If topics such as domestic abuse and sex are too much for you, the reader, I don't blame you, but I kindly ask you send a prayer and go in peace.

Part 1 - Before the marriage Back in 2017, my current girlfriend had made the decision to marry a guy she met roughly 8 months prior and felt safe with at the time. Even before their marriage, he was discovered to be cheating on her, and had been physically abusive with her. Yes, these are terrible red flags, but she decided to ignore them out of fear of not being able to do better. At this point, her and I were just friends, there were no particular romantic feelings toward one another, as those didn't have a whole lot of time to develop.

All her friends, myself included, warned her sternly to not marry this guy, however, she felt guilty to send an unemployed, unambitious, and frankly pathetic person back to his mother who would make him get a job despite his inability to walk on his club feet very well. He likely saw an oppurtunity to commit to somebody who wouldn't force him to get a job and would take care of him.

Upon their wedding day, I and some others were invited to the ceremony. Her father, a minister, held the gathering in a public park. They made wedsing vows emulating a work of fiction. Her father, the minister holding the ceremony, did not mention that their vows were to God, and in any case, has since declared he no longer sees their union as legimate.

Part 2 - Abuse in the marriage TRIGGER WARNING, DISCUSSION OF RAPE, BATTERY, AND ARMED COERCION So... as the marriage progressed for the duration of 3 years, she realized she severely messed up. He would often hit her for interupting his video games, not bringing home cigarettes for him, and telling him he needs to find a job, so the bills can get paid (she was at one point working 16 hours a day to feed and house the two of them).

Moreover, he would often vent his anger from being unemployed and lonely on her by being expr

I'm currently engaged to marry the kindest man I've ever known, and my kids and I are so excited. The biggest problems are BOTH ex-spouses, who are Narcs. Yes, both of them.

Do any of you have resources that can help navigate what is going to be an ugly transition? Books, articles, anything.

My fiance has children as well, same ages as my kids, which of course brings different challenges. I just want to prepare as much as possible

Assalaam Alaikum,

Hope you all are well!

I see many divorce stories online, but would love to hear more stories of males and females that did get married after a divorce and are happily married now.

Please, bring more positivity and hope!

Roughly, the Vedic age ( Early and Later) had the timeline of 1500 BCE-500 BCE in the subcontinent. However, the first ever recorded and eye-witness account of Sati is somewhere during 316 BCE, when one of the two wives of Keteus, a general, had immolated herself after Keteus had died fighting against Antigonos. It is said that both of the wives were extremely anxious to immolate themselves, and ultimately, since the elder queen was with her child, the younger wife was permitted to immolate herself. This is the information that we we mainly obtain from the Greek writers who had recorded the fact in writing, at that time. Perhaps, this recorded incident is much later than the Vedic age.

We don't succeed in getting a glimpse of widow immolation or Sati in the Vedas. However, the Rig Veda and the Atharva Veda have hymns on death, which are sometimes brought up to show that widow immolation was a vogue during the Vedic era.

The Rig Veda

In the Rig Veda 10.18, the hymn is basically about a dead man's funeral. Here's the hymn :

1. Depart, Death, along the further path, which is your own, different from the one leading to the gods.

To you who possess eyes and who listen do I speak: do not harm our offspring nor our heroes.

2. Effacing the footprint of death when you have gone, establishing for yourselves a longer, more extended lifetime, swelling up with offspring and wealth, become cleansed and purified, o you who are worthy of the sacrifice.

3. These the living have turned aside from the dead. The invocation of the gods has become favorable for us today.

We have gone facing forward to dancing, to laughter, establishing for ourselves a longer, more extended lifetime.

4. I set down this barrier here for the living. Let no one of these later go to this goal.

Let them live for a hundred ample autumns. Let them conceal death with a mountain.

5. Just as the days follow each upon the last, just as the seasons follow straightaway upon the seasons, so, o Ordainer, arrange their lifetimes, so that the later does not leave behind the earlier.

6. Mount your lifetime, choosing old age, taking your place each following the last, as many as you are.

Here will Tvaṣṭar, affording good birth, in concert (with the Wives of the Gods), make a long lifetime for you to live.

7. These women here, non-widows with good husbands—let them, with fresh butter as ointment, approach together.

Without tears, without afflictions, well-jeweled, let the wives first mount the womb.

I’ve been following this and the Murdaugh case- another bucket of crazy.

So, Lori and crew moved to the same town before Tammy’s death. You can’t tell me that Tammy didn’t suspect something extra-marital was happening. Chad’s family, Tammy’s family, her coworkers, the kids’ coworkers…SOMEONE had to have seen/suspected that Chad and Lori were messing around. It seemed from the 48 Hours interview that the kids were describing Tammy being very depressed- no energy, going to bed super early. I really think Tammy knew Chad was messing around.

Does anyone know if Tammy and Lori ever met?

When did Chad’s kids learn he was remarried a few weeks after their Mom died? How did he tell them?

When/how did the kids meet Lori?

This entire thing with Chad’s kids are bizarre. Didn’t they question why Alex was in the yard?

Pros Slim guy average looks Govt job and regular income No addictions Not of any criminal mindset

Cons Indecisive Lazy Bad temper Always keep lying Not sure if he can come over and live with me in future Not sure if he is capable of taking care of children.

For clarification: I am referring to remarriage that is NOT for Biblically permitted reasons, such as infidelity.

To my skeptic eyes, it seems that churches ought to equally oppose gay marriage, and remarriage after divorce, if they are going by Biblical doctrine.

But that's not what I see. There are adamantly conservative churches in America (and no doubt elsewhere) that fiercely oppose gay marriage and would never perform or allow a gay-wedding ceremony, yet allowed divorced people to remarry (and held ceremonies as such). Why aren't both opposed?

Why doesn't the church say "No we will not do a wedding ceremony for you, you are a divorcee who is remarrying?"

Again, for clarification: I am referring to remarriage for reasons NOT permitted by the Bible.

Context: I just watched this - the typical response in the comment section is "you're wrong and an adulterer", as expected. I think in terms of what scripture says they're right, but if you don't think so, can you provide justification? What justification do you have via scripture?

If you think remarrying after a divorce is a sin - I know, there's no need to tell me.

What the hell just happened

I’m curious to hear some perspectives on Luke 16:18. I’m a very happily married man, but I think we all know of people, christians included, who are both divorced and remarried. If the passage is so clear, why is it often one of the most ignored?

Hey all! A little backstory on me/my situation. I have been in a relationship with my SO for 3.5 years. He and I started dating about 6 months after his wife left him. I didn't meet his daughters until about 4 months in and didn't move in until about a year in. He has 2 daughter 8 and 5. They are amazing, smart, funny, strong willed and caring. My SO is more of a " go with the flow" when it comes to tough situation and convos. his daughters are still pretty young, so we know there is a limit of understanding. The oldest always holds on hope that her mom and dad will get back together. The youngest was pretty young when everything happened so, this arrangement is all she has ever known.

My SO has a ring and is proposing to me before the end of the year. Ultimately, nothing about living arrangements or schedules will change. It will be status quo in that regard but I think the idea of their dad marrying someone that isn't their mom scares and confuses them.

Should he and I sit down with them together and talk about it? Should it just be him since he hasn't proposed yet? In a perfect world, we would have a healthy enough relationship with their BM that she would be a part of the Convo but that is not our reality. ( She has blamed the family not being together on my SO and someone on that side even went so far to tell the oldest daughter that he was the one that left, which is most definitely not the case) Also, marriage has been brought up by the youngest before in a playful manner and SO asked the kids if he and I should get married and we got an emphatic yes from the young one and a definitive no from the eldest. Any advice is appreciated

I don't need advice, I'm just curious. Some friends are in this position.

• MomA and DadA adopt internationally.
• They get divorced and share custody.
• MomA marries DadB, who loves and helps raise the child.
• MomA now has stage 4 cancer.

If MomA passes, does DadB have any parental rights?

I don't know if it's possible for DadB to have adopted the child while the child had an (adoptive) father. If it is, I expect he did. He's very in involved and loves the child. But I don't know for sure.

If there's an adoption process DadB could do, but hasn't, how long would that take and would it require consent from DadA?

FWIW, DadA is a piece of work.

Would you please help me with this brief paradox for those who believe death is the only way that the marriage vow can be broken (i.e. that the marriage bond is indissoluble)?

If a man divorces his wife, and his wife dies, is he free to marry again?

If you say yes: then it must be admitted that Mark 10:11 is a general rule with exceptions, undercutting a pillar of the indissolubilist's argument.

If you say no: then you stand in contradiction with Scripture which states that the marital bond is broken by death.

It is better to treat Mark 10:11 as a general rule with exceptions than to contradict Scripture. Therefore a key pillar of the indissolubilist's argument is undercut.

Do you think this paradox is a successful challenge to the indissolubilist's view? Why or why not?

Thank you for helping me on my journey!

So, this is a very concerning topic for me, because it's a particularly nuanced situation to a topic that is already WIDELY disagreed upon. It also happens to be one close to me, as it pertains to a friend of 5 years that I love immensely and really do wish to make my wife. She was previously married to an unbeliever in Christ, I have never married. I will break this decidely long and complex story into parts.

So, to the point, there will be a large amount of disccussion on sin and abuse here, from all concerning parties. If topics such as domestic abuse and sex are too much for you, the reader, I don't blame you, but I kindly ask you send a prayer and go in peace.

Part 1 - Before the marriage Back in 2017, my current girlfriend had made the decision to marry a guy she met roughly 8 months prior and felt safe with at the time. Even before their marriage, he was discovered to be cheating on her, and had been physically abusive with her. Yes, these are terrible red flags, but she decided to ignore them out of fear of not being able to do better. At this point, her and I were just friends, there were no particular romantic feelings toward one another, as those didn't have a whole lot of time to develop.

All her friends, myself included, warned her sternly to not marry this guy, however, she felt guilty to send an unemployed, unambitious, and frankly pathetic person back to his mother who would make him get a job despite his inability to walk on his club feet very well. He likely saw an oppurtunity to commit to somebody who wouldn't force him to get a job and would take care of him.

Upon their wedding day, I and some others were invited to the ceremony. Her father, a minister, held the gathering in a public park. They made wedsing vows emulating a work of fiction. Her father, the minister holding the ceremony, did not mention that their vows were to God, and in any case, has since declared he no longer sees their union as legimate.

Part 2 - Abuse in the marriage TRIGGER WARNING, DISCUSSION OF RAPE, BATTERY, AND ARMED COERCION So... as the marriage progressed for the duration of 3 years, she realized she severely messed up. He would often hit her for interupting his video games, not bringing home cigarettes for him, and telling him he needs to find a job, so the bills can get paid (she was at one point working 16 hours a day to feed and house the two of them).

Moreover, he would often vent his anger from being unemployed and lonely on her by being expr

So, this is a very concerning topic for me, because it's a particularly nuanced situation to a topic that is already WIDELY disagreed upon. It also happens to be one close to me, as it pertains to a friend of 5 years that I love immensely and really do wish to make my wife. She was previously married to an unbeliever in Christ, I have never married. I will break this decidely long and complex story into parts.

So, to the point, there will be a large amount of disccussion on sin and abuse here, from all concerning parties. If topics such as domestic abuse and sex are too much for you, the reader, I don't blame you, but I kindly ask you send a prayer and go in peace.

Part 1 - Before the marriage Back in 2017, my current girlfriend had made the decision to marry a guy she met roughly 8 months prior and felt safe with at the time. Even before their marriage, he was discovered to be cheating on her, and had been physically abusive with her. Yes, these are terrible red flags, but she decided to ignore them out of fear of not being able to do better. At this point, her and I were just friends, there were no particular romantic feelings toward one another, as those didn't have a whole lot of time to develop.

All her friends, myself included, warned her sternly to not marry this guy, however, she felt guilty to send an unemployed, unambitious, and frankly pathetic person back to his mother who would make him get a job despite his inability to walk on his club feet very well. He likely saw an oppurtunity to commit to somebody who wouldn't force him to get a job and would take care of him.

Upon their wedding day, I and some others were invited to the ceremony. Her father, a minister, held the gathering in a public park. They made wedsing vows emulating a work of fiction. Her father, the minister holding the ceremony, did not mention that their vows were to God, and in any case, has since declared he no longer sees their union as legimate.

Part 2 - Abuse in the marriage TRIGGER WARNING, DISCUSSION OF RAPE, BATTERY, AND ARMED COERCION So... as the marriage progressed for the duration of 3 years, she realized she severely messed up. He would often hit her for interupting his video games, not bringing home cigarettes for him, and telling him he needs to find a job, so the bills can get paid (she was at one point working 16 hours a day to feed and house the two of them).

Moreover, he would often vent his anger from being unemployed and lonely on her by being expr

So, this is a very concerning topic for me, because it's a particularly nuanced situation to a topic that is already WIDELY disagreed upon. It also happens to be one close to me, as it pertains to a friend of 5 years that I love immensely and really do wish to make my wife. She was previously married to an unbeliever in Christ, I have never married. I will break this decidely long and complex story into parts.

So, to the point, there will be a large amount of disccussion on sin and abuse here, from all concerning parties. If topics such as domestic abuse and sex are too much for you, the reader, I don't blame you, but I kindly ask you send a prayer and go in peace.

Part 1 - Before the marriage Back in 2017, my current girlfriend had made the decision to marry a guy she met roughly 8 months prior and felt safe with at the time. Even before their marriage, he was discovered to be cheating on her, and had been physically abusive with her. Yes, these are terrible red flags, but she decided to ignore them out of fear of not being able to do better. At this point, her and I were just friends, there were no particular romantic feelings toward one another, as those didn't have a whole lot of time to develop.

All her friends, myself included, warned her sternly to not marry this guy, however, she felt guilty to send an unemployed, unambitious, and frankly pathetic person back to his mother who would make him get a job despite his inability to walk on his club feet very well. He likely saw an oppurtunity to commit to somebody who wouldn't force him to get a job and would take care of him.

Upon their wedding day, I and some others were invited to the ceremony. Her father, a minister, held the gathering in a public park. They made wedsing vows emulating a work of fiction. Her father, the minister holding the ceremony, did not mention that their vows were to God, and in any case, has since declared he no longer sees their union as legimate.

Part 2 - Abuse in the marriage TRIGGER WARNING, DISCUSSION OF RAPE, BATTERY, AND ARMED COERCION So... as the marriage progressed for the duration of 3 years, she realized she severely messed up. He would often hit her for interupting his video games, not bringing home cigarettes for him, and telling him he needs to find a job, so the bills can get paid (she was at one point working 16 hours a day to feed and house the two of them).

Moreover, he would often vent his anger from being unemployed and lonely on her by being expr

So, this is a very concerning topic for me, because it's a particularly nuanced situation to a topic that is already WIDELY disagreed upon. It also happens to be one close to me, as it pertains to a friend of 5 years that I love immensely and really do wish to make my wife. She was previously married to an unbeliever in Christ, I have never married. I will break this decidely long and complex story into parts.

So, to the point, there will be a large amount of disccussion on sin and abuse here, from all concerning parties. If topics such as domestic abuse and sex are too much for you, the reader, I don't blame you, but I kindly ask you send a prayer and go in peace.

Part 1 - Before the marriage Back in 2017, my current girlfriend had made the decision to marry a guy she met roughly 8 months prior and felt safe with at the time. Even before their marriage, he was discovered to be cheating on her, and had been physically abusive with her. Yes, these are terrible red flags, but she decided to ignore them out of fear of not being able to do better. At this point, her and I were just friends, there were no particular romantic feelings toward one another, as those didn't have a whole lot of time to develop.

All her friends, myself included, warned her sternly to not marry this guy, however, she felt guilty to send an unemployed, unambitious, and frankly pathetic person back to his mother who would make him get a job despite his inability to walk on his club feet very well. He likely saw an oppurtunity to commit to somebody who wouldn't force him to get a job and would take care of him.

Upon their wedding day, I and some others were invited to the ceremony. Her father, a minister, held the gathering in a public park. They made wedsing vows emulating a work of fiction. Her father, the minister holding the ceremony, did not mention that their vows were to God, and in any case, has since declared he no longer sees their union as legimate.

Part 2 - Abuse in the marriage TRIGGER WARNING, DISCUSSION OF RAPE, BATTERY, AND ARMED COERCION So... as the marriage progressed for the duration of 3 years, she realized she severely messed up. He would often hit her for interupting his video games, not bringing home cigarettes for him, and telling him he needs to find a job, so the bills can get paid (she was at one point working 16 hours a day to feed and house the two of them).

Moreover, he would often vent his anger from being unemployed and lonely on her by being expr