Peshitta Puns

Are there currently any scholarly English translations of the Syriac Peshitta or Ge'ez/Ethiopic Bible available in English? If not, are there any plans to release any in the near future?

Are there any scholarly (preferably one volume) interlinear translations of both the Syriac Old and New Testaments? I know Lamsa and some other ones are kind of a little far-reaching, lacking in accuracy or confuse modern Aramaic for Classical Syriac.

It appears to be the general consensus among Western scholars that the original New Testament was written in Greek then translated into Aramaic, although there are some who disagree. But Jesus spoke Aramaic. Why would the NT be written in Greek before it was written in Aramaic? It seems like a little bit of a stretch to me. I'm not arguing or even disagreeing as I've never examined the first hand evidence myself - just curious about the cases for and against this hypothesis.

Proponents of the Aramaic Primacy hypothesis point out that that many verses take on double and triple meanings when read in Aramaic.

Let's take an example. Shakespeare uses a lot of double/triple entendres in his work. Now if that work were translated into italian, many of those entendres would be lost. It's unlikely that by taking the italian text then translating it back into english would make the double entendres reappear.

Andrew Gabriel Roth makes a pretty decent case that many of the mistranslations could have only happened if Aramaic was Tranlated to Greek, and not vice versa.

For example the camel/rope mistranslation in Mathew 19:24

"And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

The Aramic word for both camel and rope are "gml" ... so the original was probably "easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle"... but got mistranslated when translating the Aramaic to Greek. You couldn't get that mistake when going from Greek to Aramaic. And you can only make that mistake if copying from text, because you would have heard the the difference ("gml" is written the same, but pronounced differently)

Was the New Testament written in Aramaic or Greek?

Combine that with all the double entendres (for example here) in Aramaic, and it seems pretty clear.

It's almost like claiming that a German writer wrote a biography on Abraham Lincoln before an American one, and the biographies we have were translated from German author's original to English, and not English to German.

It just seems more likely that books about a man who spoke Aramaic were first written in Aramaic rather than the other way around... but I'm curious about the evidence on either side.

Another video making a good case for Aramaic primacy.

Hello. I’m looking to purchase a Peshitta New Testament (not a translation, but the original Syriac aramaic). So far the only one I found somewhat readily available is the one published by the Turkey bible society back in the day (green cover, vocalized serto). Are there any others? I found a site called bibles.org.uk that reprints bibles, and they sell NT in pdf and paper in Estrangelo, Serto, etc. but I’m not sure of the quality of the reproductions. Any thoughts?

Interestingly, the Messiah is called "Easho", "Eashu" or "Eashoa" in Syriac Aramaic, which is said to have been his native language. This compares to "3iysa" in the Quran. People have wondered why he is called "3iysa" in the Quran when he is called "Yeshua" in Hebrew. "3iysa" is close to the Aramaic pronunciation.

8 Again the akel qartsa {the feeder of slander/the accuser i.e. the devil} took Him unto a mountain that was very high and showed Him all the malkutha d'alma {the kingdoms of the world}, and their glory,

9 and said unto Him, “All these I will give unto you, if you will thephel {fall down/prostrate}, and will thesgud* {worship/lit. bow down to} me.”

10 Then Eshu said unto him, “Go, satana! For, it is written: ‘You shall thesgud* MarYa Alahak {The Lord-YHWH, your God} and Him alone shall you serve!’”

*from the root s-g-d which is the sajada root in Arabic

Matthew 9:16 And one came near, and said unto Him, “malphana taba {good teacher}, what is something good that I should do, so that I may have khaye d’lalam {eternal life}?”

Matthew 9:17 Then He said unto him, “Why do you call me taba {good}? None is taba {good}, except only One, Alaha {God}. But if you desire that you may enter unto khaye {Life}, keep The Phuqdane {The Commandments}.

Quran 5:72 Ingrates indeed are those who have said, "God is the Messiah, son of Maryam!" Although the Messiah had said, "O Sons of Isra'il! Serve/worship God: my Lord and your Lord." Whoever sets up partners with God should know that God will forbid the garden for him, and his destiny will be the fire. And the wicked will have no succourers."

Quran 5:116 And God will say: "O 3iysa, son of Maryam, did you tell the people to take you and your mother as gods other than God?" He said: "Exalted art Thou., I cannot say what I have no right of. If I had said it then Thou wouldst know it. Thou knowest what is in my self while I do not know what is in Thy self. Thou art the Knower of the unseen."

Quran 5:117 Nothing did I tell them beyond what Thou didst bid me [to say]: `Worship God, [who is] my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer.' And I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast caused me to die, Thou alone hast been their keeper: for Thou art witness unto everything.

A core part of 3iysa’s mission was to get people to worship God, not himself.

Matthew 16:27 For, it is destined that The Son of Man will be coming in **The Glory of Hi

I’m trying to buy a Peshitta NT (original Syriac not a translation) and am having trouble finding good editions in print. I think I’ve found a place that sells the Turkey bible society edition from 1904 at a decent price, though that uses Serto script and I’d prefer Estrangela. I found a place that sells reprints but am not sure about the quality. Anyone have any leads?

Does anybody have some credible sources that discuss (looking for both sides) the issue of Aramaic Primacy and the New Testament and how it relates to the Peshitta? Thank you for any help.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

The nurse asked the rabbit, “what is your blood type?”

“I am probably a type O” said the rabbit.

The doctor says it terminal.

Alot of great jokes get posted here! However just because you have a joke, doesn't mean it's a dad joke.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT NSFW, THIS IS ABOUT LONG JOKES, BLONDE JOKES, SEXUAL JOKES, KNOCK KNOCK JOKES, POLITICAL JOKES, ETC BEING POSTED IN A DAD JOKE SUB

Try telling these sexual jokes that get posted here, to your kid and see how your spouse likes it.. if that goes well, Try telling one of your friends kid about your sex life being like Coca cola, first it was normal, than light and now zero , and see if the parents are OK with you telling their kid the "dad joke"

I'm not even referencing the NSFW, I'm saying Dad jokes are corny, and sometimes painful, not sexual

So check out r/jokes for all types of jokes

r/unclejokes for dirty jokes

r/3amjokes for real weird and alot of OC

r/cleandadjokes If your really sick of seeing not dad jokes in r/dadjokes

Punchline !

Edit: this is not a post about NSFW , This is about jokes, knock knock jokes, blonde jokes, political jokes etc being posted in a dad joke sub

Edit 2: don't touch the thermostat

Do your worst!

According to a 2011 discovery by Chip Coakley, a Cambridge University manuscript expert, Syriac was the first language to use a punctuation mark to indicate an interrogative sentence. The Syriac question mark, known as the zagwa elaya ("upper pair") has the form of a vertical double dot over a word.

« Sentence-punctuation in manuscripts of the Syriac Peshitta Bible is not well understood. One punctuation mark, however, a vertical pair of points above a letter, known as zawgā ʿelāyā, can be made out with some confidence: it marks yes-or-no questions. This conclusion is demonstrated from a sampling of early New Testament manuscripts in the British Library. The evidence of these manuscripts is all the more valuable because native Syriac grammarians generally lost the key to the meaning of this and other punctuation marks. It is conjectured that Syriac was the first language to use a reading sign as a question mark ».

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How the hell am I suppose to know when it’s raining in Sweden?

Mathematical puns makes me number

We told her she can lean on us for support. Although, we are going to have to change her driver's license, her height is going down by a foot. I don't want to go too far out on a limb here but it better not be a hack job.

Ants don’t even have the concept fathers, let alone a good dad joke. Keep r/ants out of my r/dadjokes.

But no, seriously. I understand rule 7 is great to have intelligent discussion, but sometimes it feels like 1 in 10 posts here is someone getting upset about the jokes on this sub. Let the mods deal with it, they regulate the sub.

They were cooked in Greece.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

He lost May

Now that I listen to albums, I hardly ever leave the house.

Don't you know a good pun is its own reword?

Two muffins are in an oven, one muffin looks at the other and says "is it just me, or is it hot in here?"

Then the other muffin says "AHH, TALKING MUFFIN!!!"

Said if she ever hosts a gender reveal party, when it comes time to pop the balloon she'll spray everyone with water.

Gender is fluid.

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

It really does, I swear!

And now I’m cannelloni

Because she wanted to see the task manager.

But that’s comparing apples to oranges

And boy are my arms legs.

Put it on my bill

Amy

Heard they've been doing some shady business.

but then I remembered it was ground this morning.

Edit: Thank you guys for the awards, they're much nicer than the cardboard sleeve I've been using and reassures me that my jokes aren't stale

Edit 2: I have already been made aware that Men In Black 3 has told a version of this joke before. If the joke is not new to you, please enjoy any of the single origin puns in the comments

They’re on standbi

BamBOO!

A play on words.