The title says it all, I'm burnt out with Greek and more mythology I've already seen them way too many times. And I find the mesopotamian mythos to be one of the most fascinating ones to exist, mainly because of how underused it is in modern fiction. Same thing with the Egyptian mythos but less than Mesopotamia. Anything goes, movies, shows, anime, video games, books etc... I'm just starved for good original work based on ancient mythos. EDIT: can't change the title but i meant non-abrahamic Mesopotamian mythology.
When I speak of Mesopotamian civilization I am referring to the set of civilizations that arose in Mesopotamia (Sumerians, Akadians, Assyrians and Babylonians).
Why did not the Mesopotamian civilizations such as Assyria or Babylon resurface?
Did the Seleucid empire eliminate Mesopotamian culture?
In a hypothetical scenario just for fun. Had there been a successful rebellion in Babylon in the Seleucid empire, would Babylonian civilization have resurfaced?
To be clear when I ask about the "significance" of alewives I'm wondering both what they actually were in Mesopotamian society and how other people would see the role. Would it be read as a rags to riches type story or was alewife a prominent job socially?
I've been reading up on old deities and previously I was under the impression Inanna and those Sumerian gods in general were the oldest, but now I learned about this Dyeus fella and am wondering if they're part of the same folklore or not ...
Any info on this?
Did the early Israelites have any myths about "monsters" like those from the Greeks/Egyptians/Mesopotamians? In my mind the only thing that comes close to a story like Theseus and the Minotaur is maybe David and Goliath.
I’m trying to unearth some information on the Mesopotamian equivalent of Kundalini. This is important to me personally, as I have gone through a Kundalini Awakening at the same time I developed a relationship with some of the Mesopotamian gods. Unsual, I know, but there you go. Some may think that Kundalini is specific to Hinduism, but that really isn’t the case, the fiery serpent which gives one powers of immortality and godhood is a pretty universal myth, most famously making an appearance in the Garden of Eden story, but also in Greek Myth with the fire of Prometheus and the serpent staff (caduceus) of Hermes.
Am I completely off track here? I know Sumerians did not believe that humans could achieve godhood, let alone supersede them eventually (a central tenet of Buddhism, for instance), yet I wonder if there is something I missed, given the fragmented and difficult-to-access nature of Mesopotamian myths in general.
All I have so far, is that the staff of Enki may very possibly reference the Kundalini Serpent, with its spiralling double helix-like serpents around a central column. For those unfamiliar with the sensation, that is exactly what an active Kundalini feels like. I also see it as likely that Mesopotamian gods and goddesses influenced the development of later Hindu gods and goddesses, given the geographical proximity and the fact that Sumerian civilisation preceded anything that might have existed in India by thousands of years. It isn’t difficult to find parallels between Enki and Shiva, Utu and Surya or Inanna and Durga for instance, just to mention the most obvious ones. Even some scholars have noted that these parallels are unlikely to be mere coincidences and some cross-pollination might have occurred. This would be particularly likely with a Polytheistic religion like Hinduism, which thives on syncretism and is known to integrate the deities and beliefs of other cultures and religions it encounters.
With those parallels in mind, might we spot the seeds of Kundalini (and tantra) in ancient Mesopotamian religion? If you have insights into this, your thoughts are much appreciated.
Update: I actually found a reference to Ningishzida, who was a healing deity and the caduceus was originally his symbol:
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ok so basically i was digging around and looking at a bunch of religions and seeing how they all connect and have the same Saturn Jupiter son overtaking father legend. All was going well but then when i went to Mesopotamia it got a little blurred
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anu Anu is said to be either Uranus or Saturn. Sounds fair enough given the similarites between other faiths. But then if you look at his son (the one that would normally "overthrow" him, its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlil who is the god of wind air earth and storms. Enlil has also been synchronized with the god https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk Marduk also is said to represent Jupiter, just like Enlil. However if you look at him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk#/media/File:Marduk_and_pet.jpg he appears to be covered in the 8 pointed star (a symbol of Saturn) Admittedly its kinda hard to tell if the stars are 8 points or not but it appears like they could be.
The point is that with Anu's father, Abzu, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abzu its said that Marduk (Enlil/Jupiter) is the one to have slain Abzu and that's what created the heavens and the earth. But in every other myth Saturn slays his father and thats what created the heavens and earth yet here we are led to believe that Marduk (Enlil/Jupiter) slew his grandfather (?) and thats what made the world.
Long story short I'm a bit confused about which Mesopotamian gods are associated with what planet. Is Anu Jupiter? Is Marduk or Enlil Saturn? Did the Mesopotamians get it confused somehow? Not to mention that Marduk's father is said to be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki Enki isn't even assoicated with Saturn but Enki is said to be the equivalent to Prometheus. Really just looking for answers
Oh yeah another thing that is totally confusing is that Enlil (Jupiter) has Ninurta as a son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninurta Ninurta is associated with Saturn and is even the god of agriculture just like in most if not all Saturn god myths. So yeah any help here is appreciated
EDIT: Thanks for the comments everyone. seems pretty clear now that Anu is in fact assoicated with Saturn. As people pointed out there's a lot of misunderstandings and contradictions in the "official" narratives and the only true way to learn more is to just research and find the same patterns. As for Marduk(Jupiter) slaying Abzu that could either be a mistake on scholars parts or a mistake(s) that the Mesopotamians themselves made. Same could
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In looking at the Ishtar Gate and this subreddit, I've noticed an emphasis on the Sumerian version of Mesopotamian religion over the Akkadian variants. Why is this? Both sites are great repositories of knowledge for the practice of the faith, but I wonder what rationale there is for choosing one version over another?
Could it be that either Babylonian or Assyrian versions were too "city-centered"?
