Malvolio Puns

Is Malvolio from Twelfth Night supposed to be the evil counterpart of Benvolio from Romeo and Juliet, or are the similarities in nomenclature in name only? I'm seriously considering this due to the prefix + volio nomenclature?

Or is this just chasing shadows in the grocery line and there are no real similarities here?

Malvolio is wrongly imprisoned. Is this a thematically unimportant subplot?

[Edit: below is just for brainstorming, not meant to be an opinion about anything other than that the topic is worth discussing -- please add other questions/possibilities/interpretations]

Morally:

• Malvolio starts as an unsympathetic character -- he is a bootlicker, self-important, sneered at. By the end, he has the sympathy at least of Orsinio and Olivia

• Is Maria culpable?

The ending song is about growth - change and constancy. Has that song got any relevance to this subplot

Is this subplot germane to "have greatness thrust upon them"?

Perhaps it is not thematically important, so why have it?

Structurally:

• It is a convenience to Shakespeare to

  • Remove a tedious character in funny clothes from the audience's eyesight

  • Let Feste do his Topas/Feste back-and-forth

• It is a vivid, amusing story in its own right and could be grafted into any play where the matter is not grave

• According to Fabian, Belch marries Maria to reward her for her role. How much of an award should we take that to be, is it a punishment?

To me, Malvolio's speech when he hands Olivia the letter, starting with "Write from it, if you can, in hand or phrase" -- is rational, well-spoken, affecting list of grievances -- "kept in a dark house". Fabian though seems sincere when he admits his part in the "sportful malice", and says it should be remembered with laughter than revenge. Malvolio has exited, unreconciled, but with the agreement of O. and O. that he's been wronged.

I love the scene where Malvolio 'finds' the letter and the two parallel dialogues with Malvolio on the one side and the conspirators (Toby, Andrew, Fabian and Maria) on the other side.

What I don't get is the final solution to the four letters (MAOI) - yes M also starts the name Malvolio, and the rest of the letters are in the name - but is that it?

What am I missing?

In action comics 632-635 we are introduced to a evil green lantern named Lord Malvolio. A human GL who looks like a muscular Alan Scott. 300 years old and on his own sector. He acquired his GL from his father who he killed.

Here’s his story for those who don’t know about him.

link

Anyhow the story ended where he destroyed Hal’s Ring. Hal thought he killed him and had to take Malvolio’s ring to get back to earth. After leaving we see that it was all part of Malvolio’s plan and that he wanted Hal to take his ring so he could control him.

Sadly we never saw the man or his scheme come to fruition as he was never in any comic ever again.

Here’s to what could have been!

It’s the one that begins “Madame you have done me wrong, notorious wrong”

The first online tournament I know of was this: https://www.reddit.com/r/KeyforgeGame/comments/9a62sm/tts_keyforge_welcome_to_the_jungle/?sort=new

In case anyone else wasn't paying attention (I wasn't), the tournament is finally over, with Doomwind taking the victory. No chains were used for this tournament.

When Feste plays the part of Sir Topaz in the prank on Malvolio he wears a disguise and I was giving it some thought and I began to wonder how much he actually needed that disguise in order to feel like a curate.

The reason that I believe it was more for his own benefit (to convince himself that he was the role of curate) is because Malvolio was in complete darkness and was unable to see anything. (Or at least this is the impression I've been given through the repeated emphasis on darkness in that scene.)

What do you guys think? Do you believe that Feste relied on his disguise, to some degree, in order to become Sir Topaz? Do you think that without the disguise he would have been less convincing when it came to making Malvolio believe that he was a curate?

Hi everyone. I'm looking for insight on staging the Malvolio-in-prison scene from Twelfe Night. It's a good scene on paper but I rarely see it pulled off well on stage and I have failed at it myself. Any ideas of staging? What do you think is the important aspects of the scene? Have you seen anything work?

I've been very interested in the name Malvo since he was first introduced and have enjoyed the discussions / remarks that I have read in this subreddit about the name. This is the first I've heard of Malvolio but no nothing about this Shakespeare character. Does anyone have knowledge of this and think it may in some way have influenced the name of the character in Fargo? I'll I know about Malvolio is that "He is often portrayed as the main antagonist" according to Wikipedia. edit: spelling errors

Do your worst!

It really does, I swear!

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies 😂

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

They’re on standbi

Buenosdillas

Pilot on me!!

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

When I got home, they were still there.

What did 0 say to 8 ?

" Nice Belt "

So What did 3 say to 8 ?

" Hey, you two stop making out "

Although I have always appreciated the Epilogue to As You Like It, I realized when I read it again that I had questions about every sentence. As I said to my partner, “I could pass a test on it, but I actually do not understand to my satisfaction a single sentence.” The way into understanding the eccentric epilogue is to see As You Like It as Shakespeare’s initial response to Ben Jonson’s criticism of Shakespeare’s type of comedy and promotion of his own satiric comedy.

The much-quoted amateur play Return to Parnassus 2 says that Shakespeare “puts them all down” [I think referring to university educated writers] and administers a “purge” to Jonson. Critics have mistakenly gone looking for an individual play that delivers the purge and maybe even puts them all down, but most likely it is general, including As You Like It (my focus), Twelfth Night, Hamlet to some extent, and Troilus and Cressida.

During the 1599 to 1601 period, Shakespeare’s two bones of contention were the “twin evils of Petrarchan idolatry and humoral satire” e.g., Troilus and Thersites [Troilus and Cressida], Orsino and Malvolio [Twelfth Night], and Orlando and Jaques [As You Like It]. [I would add his attitude towards the two issues was probably different—being smitten by Petrarchan love was amusing and based partly on his favourite Ovid, but humoral satire was a more mixed emotion—Shakespeare was challenged, felt disagreement, might have been curious, possibly tempted by the commercial possibilities, etc.]

There were two general types of comedy. Traditionally, there was mythic romantic comedy or festive comedy. Then there was the new kid on the block, what might be called mocking satire or Jonsonian satire. Because Jonson wrote prefaces, we have some pretty good information on his position. (And, as an academic expert on Jonson maintains, he repeatedly took other people’s work and criticized it through the play he was currently writing—which gives us further insight on his critical position.) Jonson argued that the audience should be learned, independent analysts using detached reason, and isolated and not consulting other people who might influence their thinking. In Every Man Out of His Humour, Jonson specifically says no opinion sharing: avoid being swayed by the people rather than by the argument.

This helps me understand the Epilogue to As You Like It. “I charge you, O women, for the love you bear to men, to like as much of this play

I won't be doing that today!

You take away their little brooms

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.