Do onions have Lactobacilli or do they require a pre-existing brine that contains them?

I've got a few years of making chili pepper pastes (typically a dry brine, simple 2% weight of salt to weight of veg) using the guidance of the Shockeys in Fiery Ferments (they go a little lower salinity but 2% is easy math) as well as their fermented vegetables book. I generally don't do a wet brine unless I have to, such as for cucumbers, but I'm trying to get more comfortable with doing them. Pastes this way tend to give me some nifty, funky flavors including something akin to dry aged beef this year.

My question is this: The Shockeys' vegetable book says onions are the only veg that don't have their own Lactobacilli and so you have to add your own from an already made pickle. This year I made lacto fermented pickled cucumbers for the first time so I have some. Now I know I can make things work by adding other veggies that have LAB but do I always need to have some ready, already teaming with LAB brine to do so? I really want to do a pure onion paste, in part because they're a part of some of my pepper mashes anyway and yield an incredible array of flavors and aromas.

I've browsed the sub and see some recipes using just onions and brine, but I'm still not sure and could use a little guidance.

Thanks in advance!

ETA: the Fermented vegetables recipe the Shockeys have references using a small amount of already primed pickling liquid leftovers so it's not that much but the question remains.

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I made lactic acid bacteria(LAB) aka Lactobacilli for my ladies
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I made lactic acid bacteria(LAB) aka Lactobacilli for my ladies
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Has anyone successfully replenished lactobacilli? (Aerobic vaginitis)

I got a microgendx test in January that showed positive for strep and NO good bacteria whatsoever. Meaning NO lactobacilli. Diagnosed with aerobic vaginitis.

I was given ABX and have been taking high CFU probiotics with specific strains but I still have vaginal atrophy and dryness and different discharge. No weird yellow discharge but still nowhere near normal and still having symptoms.

Any suggestions?

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My Lactobacilli are gone!

I went through the ringer in 2020 with severe pelvic pain following trauma and was put on 8 different antibiotics and 3 different antifungals in a period of 3 months. Turns out, I didn't have an infection to begin with! I'm now in physical therapy for hypertonic pelvic floor dysfunction, vulvodynia, and levator ani syndrome.

Since being hit with all these antibiotics, I've had a ton of unscented discharge. I've tested negative for every kind of infection, so I finally asked my gyno to look under the microscope and check my lactobacillus counts. To her shock, she could find almost none! Almost a year since being on all those antibiotics and, despite taking a probiotic supplement during and for a while after, my microbiome still hasn't recovered.

So she says we need to get probiotics and prebiotics into me pronto, especially in the form of a vaginal suppository. She said even inserting yogurt vaginally is an option for me at this point. I ordered a suppository with the appropriate strains (though I'm worried because it also has stevia and other unnecessary stuff in it,) I'm taking an oral probiotic again, trying to eat more fermented foods, and drinking Metamucil for prebiotics.

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Any tips on an effective and efficient recovery?

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ELI5: Symbiosis between yeast and lactobacilli when making sourdough

IIRC the yeast gives off CO2 as a byproduct and the LAB gives off lactic acid (the "sour" in sourdough). But byproducts of what? Are both the yeast and the LAB feeding on the sugars in the flour? And what guarantees that the only bacteria you get is LAB and not a harmful strain of bacteria?

TIA

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Kettle sour poured with this. I think its Lactobacillis. Would like 2nd opinions.
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Transkingdom interactions between Lactobacilli and hepatic mitochondria attenuate western diet-induced diabetes nature.com/articles/s4146…
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Lactobacilli Have a Niche in the Human Nose (May 2020) cell.com/cell-reports/pdf…
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Women at high risk of developing ovarian cancer have lower levels of protective β€œfriendly” vaginal bacteria, as do women diagnosed with the disease, according to a new study. Further research hopes to demonstrate that re-introducing lactobacilli into the vagina will reduce risk of the disease. ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jul/v…
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Lactobacilli for H. pylori treatment

A recent meta-analysis looked at 11 randomized trials, which used Lactobacillus supplementation to enhance treatment of H. pylori (the main cause of gastric ulcers) and found that H. pylori elimination rate in the Lactobacillus supplement groups was significantly higher than that in the control groups.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0223309&fbclid=IwAR0VZ4Wz0VGfO0e8YBXt6ddWCQ9FKBBq77BfVrgSKlZJbglk8zz6brPMaBA

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Associations of Cervicovaginal Lactobacilli With High-Risk Human Papillomavirus Infection, Cervical Intraepithelial Neoplasia, and Cancer academic.oup.com/jid/arti…
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Lactobacilliβ€”a microbe normally found in the the digestive system, urinary system and genital systemβ€”have a Niche in the Human Nose. This opens the doors to create a probiotic for upper respiratory infections. cell.com/cell-reports/pdf…
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I've got a fever and the only prescription is more lactobacilli!
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Extracellular vesicles from symbiotic vaginal lactobacilli inhibit HIV-1 infection of human tissues (Dec 2019, ex vivo) naturemicrobiologycommuni…
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Women at high risk of developing ovarian cancer have lower levels of protective β€œfriendly” vaginal bacteria, as do women diagnosed with the disease, according to a new study. Further research hopes to demonstrate that re-introducing lactobacilli into the vagina will reduce risk of the disease. ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jul/v…
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Consortium of Probiotics Attenuates Colonization of Clostridioides difficile (Dec 2019, mice) "5 Lactobacilli strains, isolated from the feces of healthy breast-feeding infants and Tibet wild marmots. 2 Bifidobacterium strains purchased from the American Type Culture Collection (ATCC, US)" frontiersin.org/articles/…
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Stomach bug and probiotic bacteria produce electricity and could build 'living battery', scientists discover. Hospital superbugs to probiotic lactobacilli capable of 'electrogenesis' when deprived of oxygen in the gut independent.co.uk/news/sc…
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Antibiotics can cause weight loss by impairing gut microbiota in mice and the potent benefits of lactobacilli tandfonline.com/doi/full/…
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Extracellular vesicles from symbiotic vaginal lactobacilli inhibit HIV-1 infection of human tissues (Dec 2019, ex vivo) naturemicrobiologycommuni…
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Stomach bug and probiotic bacteria produce electricity and could build 'living battery', scientists discover. Hospital superbugs to probiotic lactobacilli capable of 'electrogenesis' when deprived of oxygen in the gut independent.co.uk/news/sc…
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Gut bacteria produce electricity - Scientists discover that many electrogenic bacteria are part of the human gut microbiome, and some like Lactobacilli, are probiotics. This discovery, which had been missed before, may assist those currently trying to create living batteries from microbes. news.berkeley.edu/2018/09…
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Women at high risk of developing ovarian cancer have lower levels of protective β€œfriendly” vaginal bacteria, as do women diagnosed with the disease, according to a new study. Further research hopes to demonstrate that re-introducing lactobacilli into the vagina will reduce risk of the disease. ucl.ac.uk/news/2019/jul/v…
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Systematic review and meta‐analysis. (June 2019) "Vaginal microbiota dominated by non‐Lactobacilli species or Lactobacillus iners were associated with 3‐5 times higher odds of any prevalent HPV and 2‐3 times higher for high risk HPV and dysplasia/cervical cancer compared to Lactobacillus crispatus" obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley…
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Stage one of my Lactobacilli experiment complete. Now on to the ferment!
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Caught the Lactobacilli bug. (banana for scale)
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Lactobacilli fermenting cooked and pureed garbanzo beans (like saurkraut) or whey-fermenting cooked/pureed garbanzo beans in a 100 F bath (like yogurt)

Has anyone had any luck with these two types of fermentation processes on soaked, cooked, and pureed garbanzo beans?

I'm thinking that by doing the lactobacilli fermentation method, the pureed garbanzo beans would be too salty but also pleasantly tart. Should this be diluted with other non-fermented and pureed garbanzo beans?

Whey-fermenting garbanzo beans would require a 100F hot bath for 8 hours or so. What does this taste like? I have a feeling that the texture maybe even gelatinous like yogurt and perhaps pleasantly sour as well, without the saltiness of my theoretical lactobacilli garbanzo beans that I mentioned above.

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What antibodies did they use to stain these lactobacilli?
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Contraception: Influence on Vaginal Microbiota and Identification of Vaginal Lactobacilli Using MALDI-TOF MS and 16S rDNA Sequencing benthamopen.com/FULLTEXT/…
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