IEC 60364 - two wires under one screw

Hi.

Had a discussion with a colleague whether using two wires under a single circuit breaker is up to code.

Can someone point me in the right direction in the eu standard to help us?

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How do you guys work with cable sizing under IEC 60364 section 52.

I'm doing a project on the matter and I would like some input from experienced users.

The Danes have a simplified version of section 52 which is set to expire in 2019. A note in the simplified version allowed us to ignore the correction factor in regards to running circuits close to each other (table B.52.17). The prerequisite for this was that the cable wouldn't be loaded above 75% of the current rating after correcting for temperature.

I imagine it seems crazy, but it has worked out so far because very few installations are put under 100% load simultaneously. It made running cables in cable trays a piece of cake because we didn't have to think about the amount and management of cables in the tray. Which in turn also made inspecting the work easier. And so was later expansions. Because of this most of the engineers, I have talked with, don't have any experience in doing this any other way.

TL:DR How do you plan cables in cable trays so it gives room for the entrepreneur to find the smartest solution for him, enables you to control it is made according to the standard and that later expansion is easy? Do you leave the cable routing to the entrepreneur? If so: how do you ensure that the cables are sized correctly? If not: how do you control that your plan are followed by the entrepreneur?

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TIL that NEC and IEC 60364 serve as the basis for electrical wiring in 90% of the world. writer-tech.com/pages/tec…
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Frame TV owners: How have you concealed the One Connect cable for the Frame TV if it's not in-wall rated?

Without buying the expensive in-wall rated one that doesn't allow it to sit as flush.

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Visiting from Denmark - can I use my Tesla emergency charger in Norway?

Hi there

We plan on driving our Danish Tesla Model 3 from DK to Norway during Christmas. While I know we can use the superchargers and any type 2 chargers, people in Denmark keep insisting that there are no electrical ground in Norway, so you can't use the emergency charger.

I don't understand this. I was in Norway in a VW Passat GTE 1.5 years ago, and the emergency charger worked just fine. I hooked it to a schucko plug in the cabin we stayed in, which was really convenient. Is it true this will not work for a Danish/non-norwegian Tesla M3 emergency charger?

Edit: this is not a question about plugs: I do have adapters to change and maintain ground.

I found this link, that suggest some installations in Norway may not have a neutral: power is delivered as two 115V phases separated by 180 degrees: "IET Forums - Three phase grids without neutral (3x230V)" https://www2.theiet.org/forums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=205&threadid=88103 - maybe that is what people are talking about as a difference to e.g. Denmark? We always have neutral, AFAIK.

Edit II: People (in Danish Tesla Facebook groups) claim that Norway uses a different grounding system than Denmark, and this is related to the problems, one might experience with chargers that are picky about ground and neutral potentials. The system that should be widely used in Norway is called IT, and most of the rest of Europe uses TN, alledgedly. Still confused: https://www.emobilitysimplified.com/2020/04/iec-60364-3-different-ac-power-systems-earthing-tn-tt-it.html - if anyone has solid knowledge, would be much appriciated, thanks.

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SERIOUS: This subreddit needs to understand what a "dad joke" really means.

I don't want to step on anybody's toes here, but the amount of non-dad jokes here in this subreddit really annoys me. First of all, dad jokes CAN be NSFW, it clearly says so in the sub rules. Secondly, it doesn't automatically make it a dad joke if it's from a conversation between you and your child. Most importantly, the jokes that your CHILDREN tell YOU are not dad jokes. The point of a dad joke is that it's so cheesy only a dad who's trying to be funny would make such a joke. That's it. They are stupid plays on words, lame puns and so on. There has to be a clever pun or wordplay for it to be considered a dad joke.

Again, to all the fellow dads, I apologise if I'm sounding too harsh. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

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Blind Girl Here. Give Me Your Best Blind Jokes!

Do your worst!

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This subreddit is 10 years old now.

I'm surprised it hasn't decade.

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Dropped my best ever dad joke & no one was around to hear it

For context I'm a Refuse Driver (Garbage man) & today I was on food waste. After I'd tipped I was checking the wagon for any defects when I spotted a lone pea balanced on the lifts.

I said "hey look, an escaPEA"

No one near me but it didn't half make me laugh for a good hour or so!

Edit: I can't believe how much this has blown up. Thank you everyone I've had a blast reading through the replies πŸ˜‚

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I wanna hear your best airplane puns.

Pilot on me!!

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E or ß?
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Pun intended.
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Covid problems
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These aren't dad jokes...

Dad jokes are supposed to be jokes you can tell a kid and they will understand it and find it funny.

This sub is mostly just NSFW puns now.

If it needs a NSFW tag it's not a dad joke. There should just be a NSFW puns subreddit for that.

Edit* I'm not replying any longer and turning off notifications but to all those that say "no one cares", there sure are a lot of you arguing about it. Maybe I'm wrong but you people don't need to be rude about it. If you really don't care, don't comment.

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What did 0 say to 8 ?

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I'd like to dedicate this joke to my wisdom teeth.

[Removed]

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I did it, I finally did it. After 4 years and 92 days I went from being a father, to a dad.

This morning, my 4 year old daughter.

Daughter: I'm hungry

Me: nerves building, smile widening

Me: Hi hungry, I'm dad.

She had no idea what was going on but I finally did it.

Thank you all for listening.

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It this sub dead?

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Remember that joke I told you about the chiropractor?

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All dad jokes are bad and here’s why

Why

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My name is ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

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If Korean pop is shortened to Kpop and Korean Drama is Kdrama...

What, then, is Chinese rap?

Edit:

Notable mentions from the comments:

  • Spanish/Swedish/Swiss/Serbian hits

  • French/Finnish art

  • Country/Canadian rap

  • Chinese/Country/Canadian rock

  • Turkish/Tunisian/Taiwanese rap

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Is this sub still active?

There hasn't been a single post this year!

(Happy 2022 from New Zealand)

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