Eugenia Puns

For people concerned about Eugenia being gone the past few days, this is 100% normal. Whenever a controversy breaks out she takes anywhere from a few days to a few weeks off on social media. No reason to worry.

We all know that she flashes constantly.

Most times she is actually looking at herself while doing it. When confronted, far from being apologetic (yes, she should be. Non-consensual flashing is not okay. People don't want to see someone else's crotch/actual vagina just because... and especially kids, which she has a following of). It's just not okay to do to a non-consenting audience. Nothing wrong at all to flash to people who are into that, but this is not what she advertises her channel as.

She has very clearly matched her underwear to her eyeshadow before, when the colors of her clothes that day were clashing pretty badly with the eye look, so it was no coincidence, and she was looking at her reflection the whole time.

Now back to my point: I think she won't be satisfied with just telling people she doesn't wear diapers. This got to her and she will try to disprove it, which requires more than words. I think she will actually show she is not, while trying to be slick, of course. I don't mean to say that she will be extremely explicit about it. What I think will happen is more along the lines of showing a lot more crotch shots, this time making it clear that it's not diapers. Watch out for lots of flashy panties so that she can prove her point.

I totally think she wants to prove it, and that she will.

Edit: apologies about using the word vagina. English for me is a work in progress so please forgive that. I will remember if I have to use it again lol

Edit 2: I feel like I'm being discriminated against for not knowing English perfectly yet and it's messed up.

It is so upsetting to see Eugenia, like it's getting worse and worse. I keep looking because it's like a train wreck that you can't keep your eyes off of. I feel bad for even saying that. I just don't understand how nobody has gotten her involuntarily admitted for psychiatric help and eating disorder. I know in the past Jacqueline her friend got her help, but I think it traumatized Eugenia which I understand. I was institutionalized a couple times and it was a terrible institution I was at, but there's really good programs for eating disorders like residential treatment centers that can actually help her.

I do have a feeling one day she's going to live stream several hours and she's going to drop dead of a heart attack, and we're all going to see her die on camera. Does anyone else think the same thing like me?

I first heard of her several years ago. Don't know when. But I can tell you that my reasons for following her were simple.

She has this cute look, she was a little awkward, and her videos were somewhat creative and interesting. She had this fun, poppy music going on and was very upbeat and personable. I didn't look at her and think she was in danger, even though she was very thin. She didn't have this odd ultra high pitched lean on her voice. She was not controversial, and was pretty adorable.

That Eugenia is gone.

The Eugenia of now is an isolated, exceptionally ill, controversial and (let's face it) completely tasteless individual who will wear anything that looks good on a package (but horrible on her) and she imagines that she's "cute" in it, even though its literally draped over her bones the way you hang a garment on a coat rack. In her world, she is the arbiter of truth, in spite of our eyes telling us differently.

So my question for you is: why do you choose to tune into her streams? Some of you have mentioned quite recently that you watched her marathon streams for 8 hours or more. WHY? I genuinely am curious - what interest could this person hold for you now? And I'm pretty sure that for some of you, it's like having a regularly occurring car wreck unfolding. Some of you tune in to catch the latest horrific physical manifestations of her illness. It's a virtual elephant man show.

Am I writing this to be mean? Not at all. My questions aren't really about Eugenia - they are about us. What does tuning in to this sad display actually say about us?

I'm sure some of us are concerned and tune in to see that she's making some positive progress. I'm equally sure that some of us tune in for the sheer spectacle of watching a human slowly die before your very eyes. Just the repeated posts of "look at how her arm looks in this" are now just a form of sickly entertainment.

For myself, I'm not sure. But given the track record here and how her health is going, I'm sure many of us have reached the foregone conclusion that she's not long for this world. So why do we feel the need to observe it?

The more I think about it, the more I really don't like what this says about me. I will absolutely own that truth.

I think a lot of people see her and her mom and think “wow, a sick kid with her mom, this is just like gypsy!” and it’s starting to really annoy me. It’s so so obvious that that’s not what’s going on…

From Healthline at https://www.healthline.com/health/munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy#warning-signs, The Warning Signs of Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy:

The warning signs in a child include:

1. a history of repeated injuries, illnesses, or hospitalizations

WHERE. They avoid it! They don’t get help even when they really should

2. symptoms that don’t quite fit any disease

It’s obvious she has an ED and professionals agreed on that in the 5150

3. symptoms that don’t match test results

WHAT TEST RESULTS, and I’m sure if she did take tests they would match her symptoms and show that she has an ED

4. symptoms that seem to improve under medical care but get worse at home

WHAT MEDICAL CARE, also what fake symptoms? She’s starving for real, nobody is making anything look any way because it’s true, even we can see that she doesn’t eat or drink for like 12 hours in her streams and likes to show off her “progress”

The warning signs of MSP in the caretaker include:

1. attention-seeking behavior

Her mom is barely in any of her videos and a lot of time when she is there she looks annoyed and kind of awkward. Plus if she had this disorder she would have DEFINITELY been in the Shane Dawson documentary and soaking up all the attention, instead she hid from everybody. Usually Eugenia wants attention more than her mom

2. striving to appear self-sacrificing and devoted

Her mom knows that most people think she’s horrible and is ignoring the problem with her kid. She could come on camera and spill all this tea like “oh you know I have to help Eugenia even get into her clothes because she can’t do anything, wow I’m such a good parent” but she doesn’t.

3. becoming overly involved with doctors and medical staff

Eugenia’s mom literally called the police on Jaclyn when she was taking Eugenia to the hospital… they run from doctors, they didn’t see one for five years according to Jaclyn. They still don’t go. They do the opposite of being super involved with doctors and staff

4. refusing to leave the child’s side

This one is kind of happening because Eugenia barely leaves the house, but also when she’s in the house she doesn’t really spend that much time with her family. She sits in her room alone a lot, usually her mom leaves her alone in there

5. exaggerating the ch

And it must be SO triggering. Just imagine you're back from rehab and now just because your face became noticeably fuller now everyone suddenly assumes you starve yourself because of your face not matching your body in terms of thinness. People are stating this about Eugenia as if it's a fact that she doesn't like her facial shape. When and where did she say this, exactly? It's equivalent to walking up to her and saying "Hey Eugenia, I think your face is fat." It might be a reasonable assumption to make for some people but that's all it should be. An assumption.

If she wasn't self conscious about her face before, she definitely is now thanks to literally everyone. 🙄

Here is my take on what's probably a thing other people think but I don't see being talked about often. Eugenia is probably an exhibitionist in the fetish sense (not the disorder).

That's the reason of why she wears skimpy clothing, flashes her underwear and private parts, posts "sexy" (she is not sexy at all, she is too emaciated to be, but her and her enablers probably think so) pics in "sexy" clothes, poses in suggestful ways on her streams. That's why also she refused to delete the story where she flashed her panties (the one that caused trolls to say she was wearing a diaper) and that's probably why she took a time to delete that video where her kitty slipped.

She does that stuff not only for the bits but because she likes the attention, she even finds pleasure from flasing her parts/panties to strangers online. Or maybe she is just seeking masculine validation and the way she finds it is by sexualizing herself. That's my take.

Edit: it seems like I didn't highlight it enough, I'm talking exhibitionist in the sense of people who get off showing their private parts to others! I'm not talking about people who post everything about them online, although Eugenia is also an exhibitionist in that sense.

I only found out about Eugenia two years ago, but one of the things that I find sad about her, is how ignorant she comes across about almost everything. I'm not trying to be mean by using this word but I don't know what else to call it.

I don't watch her streams but I do watch recaps and sometimes people are talking about movies and music in the chat and she never seems to understand a single reference. Same thing when she's asked directly about almost any topic. Hasn't seen it, hasn't heard of it, doesn't know anything about current events... Even when it comes to gaming she doesn't seem to know much. The only things she apparently has some knowledge of are make-up and Tim Burton movies.

Basically it's a bit shocking to me how one can go through life without wanting to know more about the world, even unintentionally you always find out about things, through conversation, tv, etc. I know she was home schooled and her lack of a social life is probably also a big part of the problem. But doesn't her family teach her anything or does she just not care to learn and find out about things?

Just thinking how this all fits in with her ED and how it seems to be her whole world. I would like to hear from people who have followed her for longer, has she always been this oblivious or was she better in the past?

I noticed on youtube and instagram none of her peers seem to be posting about her. Is it just not a big deal to people any more? Or are people reaching out privately?

I really hope people from the past can try again because she needs support.

Has anyone else watched eugenias new Instagram story she is literally showing off her underwear, sorry if I’m mistaken or anything

There's a type of "I'm sorry" that's for seeking reassurance instead of taking responsibility, and she's consistently guilty of that.

Sometimes it's a reflexive strategy of insecure people, and we see this a lot from her (e.g., "I'm so sorry my hair is messed up right now!" is her looking for reassurance when she's feeling insecure about her appearance but doesn't know how to articulate that).

But other times it's when they're being confronted with criticism/consequences and don't want to face it, so they over-apologize (e.g., "Oh, I did [tiny thing they know is tiny or not at all bad]? I'm so sorry--I'm just such a terrible idiot who can't do anything right at all because I'm so bad at everything!" is over-apologizing so the social burden switches to the accuser who's then redirected to reassure--"No, you're not that bad! You're great!") or surface-level apologize (e.g. the infamous "I'm sorry you feel that way," and "Sorry if I...") if they know it will make either the people confronting them or enablers swoop in to fight the battle for them and reassure them that they actually don't deserve any of the heat they're getting.

We see this so much from her. I think her apologies are almost always just asking for reassurance. I don't think she understands what an apology is actually supposed to be.

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I watched her insta story apology, and she only apologizes for crying. She doesn't apologize for flashing (AGAIN). She doesn't apologize for not taking down the story with her flashing once it was pointed out. She doesn't apologize for yelling at her audience and calling them stupid. She doesn't apologize to the many uninvolved people in her audience who watch her for her "positivity" for allowing chat to deteriorate and yelling at them and calling them stupid. She doesn't apologize to anyone in her audience who might actually need diapers and who would be triggered by her disgust and the bullying she allowed in the chat she controls and is responsible for as the streamer (she just dismisses that potential impact by saying that we all "know" she would never imply that???). She doesn't apologize for repeatedly circling back to the diaper topic rather than moving on.

She apologizes for crying--something that she knows she doesn't need to apologize for. She apologizes for crying because she knows people will just reassure her that she was right to do it--she shouldn't have to apologize for it--she's fine--she did nothing wrong.

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P.S. Ap

Is this all really worth it Eugenia? After last nights stream everything in your life just seems so miserable. Remember how much love and support the whole internet gave you when you came back from rehab? Didn't that feel nice? You had friends by your side to support you, you went out and did stuff. I know anorexia is a mental illness and can mess with your perception of reality because I also have anorexia (1 year recovered). Your streams are like the one thing left you enjoy doing but now I'm sure you're starting to hate streaming as well because the only people left in your streams are weirdos who like seeing you flash your underwear and who could care less if you dropped dead from your ED.

I cannot truly believe that in your heart this is the life you REALLY want. No one would want this. You deserve a good life. Surrounded by people who actually care about you and want to see you succeed. I know recovery feels impossible, but there is more to life than your ED. And if you feel out of control, always remember you are ALWAYS in control of what you do, no one else. You can still have control and nourish yourself and treat yourself with the kindness you deserve.

I know you like to post those hate DMs you get on your Instagram stories, but why don't you ever post the DMs of love and concern you get? Why does only the horrible hate get the spotlight on your stories? Psychos who message you those hate DMs don't deserve a single second of your time, their opinions do not matter. Listen to those who love you, Eugenia. Truly love you, and not your ED.

And Eugenia, it's okay to step back and take a break from the internet/social media for a little bit. Heal yourself.

Sorry for the long post, last nights stream weighed heavily on me and made me feel so sad for her.

I don't like the idea of me, a completly stranger, assuming the state of mind of Eugenia, i only can tell she looks really sick and that fact get me sad and worried, but i can't act like a freaking scientist or a freaking doctor or anything, i only can say that The Sims is a game that i play when my life gets pretty f*cked up (also of course just for fun), i remember years ago she said she used to play the sims and enjoy doing it, and at the time i felt that really understand what is like to play a life that seems really \"unreal\" and unattainable, i know how it feels that the only good thing and the only safe space is the own mind and imagination, and when that unique safe space disappears and gets very obscure and dangerous just like the \"outside\" world, is fraking heartbreaking.

Technique: ink on paper

Hi all..Eugenia had a sore throat last stream. I'm curious if you think she might be physically sick?

Despite everything, I wish her the best. And if its too much to speculate on her physical health- i can delete this post.

Why do so many people spend THOUSANDS on her every time she streams. Go fund me is packed full of noble causes that desperately need funds. Children are suffering and could DIE without the money for their essential needs. Eugenia has access to everything she needs. She CHOOSES to live an unhealthy life that will lead to an early grave. Children are entering an early grave due to poverty alone. How twisted is that?

Eugenia is comfortable in her parents upper middle class Greenwich mansion. She doesn’t need it. Why are people so selfish?

I’m attempting to help fundraise for my friends family who lost everything during hurricane odette and it seems like nobody cares. Yet, Eugenia flaunts her bones on stream and the wallets open wide. This world is so fucked. Here’s the gofundme if you’re curious. if anyone wants to share / donate / check it out that would be appreciated.

It's nice to dream about what could be and it feels good to imagine a positive future, especially for someone who is deteriorating in such a depressing way.

This is what I imagine:

EC comes back for another few months but that seed is already planted from her freak out and things just don't feel right anymore. So she goes MIA for like a year, gets all the therapy and recovers. Sure she'd lose some of her viewership- the portion who get thrills from watching a train wreck, but she'd keep her OG viewers, fans, and gain new ones because she'd be such a huge inspiration.

When she comes back to the world healthy, mentally stable, and REAL (no more "yeah so like hey guys, I'm fine and everything") her true self shines through- she's great at talking passionately, she's awesome at fashion, makeup, style, etc. She's so relatable to many in so many ways and she's genuinely gifted as an influencer just being herself, the self BEHIND the ED.

So she continues making YouTube vids, only elevated and more mature and age appropriate. She shows her real voice and shares her real feelings. She sends a message of hope, she offers lived experience as part of her content (e.g., videos to help people reintegrate back into feeling happy in their body with fashion and style when they're in recovery).

I'd watch the HECK out of that new channel and I know a lot of us would. I'd even say she'd get WAY more followers.

Drop your future visions in the comments and make this something EC can use as a vision board for a future she deserves and would be amazing in.

Edit: I mean "ideal future" as in, a future where she continues being an online personality. IMO her ideal future would be one where she rarely even notices social media exists.

Since it's almost proven she fetishizes herself on stream, Eugenia falls in the category of a sex worker. The internet redefined sex work, opening a lot of possibilities, especially for fetish content. By definition, "sex workers are adults who receive money or goods in exchange for consensual sexual services or erotic performances, either regularly or occasionally". Not all sex workers explicitly show their bodies and there is nothing wrong with being a sex worker and they all deserve respect.

Eugenia harms other sex workers in a lot of ways:

1. She is not honest about what she does. Even though her streams are not entirely focused on fetishists, she denies everything people dare to ask questions, i.e. the flashing, the box incident, the skimpy clothing. Although not all fetish creators explicitly say that they are sex workers, their content is usually on +18 platforms.

2. She insists her content is safe to children. It's not, specially her streams. You won't see sex workers saying their services are appropriate for minors.

3. Victim blaming/defending predators. Eugenia supports predators (Jeffree, Shane) and blames/disbeliefs their victims. Sexual abuse is a thing in the industry that harms sex workers way more often because their position makes them more vulnerable to it.

4. The fetish she caters to is dangerous to her. She is killing herself for some bits and internet attention. The blame is not exactly on her, it's on the sick peoole who give her money and her family, specially her mother, who refuse to force her into treatment.

Eugenia is a sick girl and she needs to be treated, paying her bits to put on some skimpy clothing or to move some heavy box/ottoman won't help her. She can be a sex worker when she is okay, now is not the time.

I've been thinking about this a bit, and I wonder if this has crossed Eugenia's mind at all. I have heard, probably on a post here, and Eugenia was afraid that if they took her for treatment, her mom wouldn't be able to get along without her and might get sick. A heart condition, of some sort. I don't know.

So, does she care about her mom? I am guessing yes. Whatever relationship they have, there is that.

What will become of her mom once her daughter passes? What I mean specifically, is once the cause of death is determined, will her mother have to face some tough questions about how her daughter was allowed to live in her home and come to that end? I don't mean tough questions from the community. Tough questions from authority figures.

I don't know the answer to any of this, but it seems clear to me that as someone who is living with her mother, it's blatantly irresponsible to encourage Eugenia's self destructive lifestyle. Can Eugenia really carry on her lifestyle, basically paving the way to her demise and not expect consequences for those who if not enabled, at least allowed it to occur with no intent to intervene for her well being?

I'm just wondering.

Now that she has stopped posting content on all platforms momentarily, I think she might be spending her time just reading what people are saying/watching what people are filming about her. Which is also a bad thing but we already know that. I definitely don’t think she games, or has other kinds of hobbies that take up her time. I feel scared something is going to push her over the edge.. shrug However, part of me feels this might be a wake up call? Does anyone else maybe think so?

-Refuses to apologize over her past weird racist tweets/jokes and doesn't see the need to address them

-Spoke over a black women in her twitch chat and let her fans attack her in chat when the chatter was trying to explain something related to race / being black and her fans were going on about how the chatter couldn't be a voice for BLM despite being black

-Defends Shane Dawson's / Jeffree Star's racist actions such as black face and even worse

-Defends Shane Dawson's pedophilic past

-When the Insider article that had brought forth accusations about Jeffree Star sexually assaulted people came out she immediately went on a rant victim blaming the victims and said they were lying and shit immediately without even trying to research it and said a bunch of shit like "victims shouldn't come forward without proof"

-She is neglectful around her own community, not even checking by any minimum to see if her mods are not registered sex offenders

-She literally doesn't respond to evidence related to bad ppl until the bad ppl turn on her

-She refuses to see a problem with championing herself as a fully recovered eating disorder sufferer

-She refuses to see a problem with showing off her private parts / her underwear and even normalizes it

-When I spoke out about her I got shit talked literally almost every stream and she now gaslights the fact that that happened

-When I first started speaking out ab her discord she still kept promoting it like crazy until Pastel Belle and Repzilla said anything

-She banned any mention of her discord being dangerous when it in fact was

-She played stupid about what's going on in her community

-She was very okay with the fact that one of her big supporters was a literal nazi who had swatstikas literally all over his profile (there is no playing dumb about it either, it was clear as day) and it took a year for her to ban him when he started victimizing my friend

-Her moderation team in the past literally feel like their hands are tied when it comes to banning people and even confessed to feeling so to me because she's just "way too nice but they're going to try to up their savageness. " and said by quote "there's people they wanted to ban that they couldn't ban because Eugenia wouldn't let them"

-Read all my various usernames out on her live stream which lead me to get attacked

-Is okay with her moderators literally doxxing people's personal information

-Literally has master l

Eugenia ended stream early last night because Deb was texting her. Apparently they're going to a Christmas service today. Best case scenario, that was a lie and Eugenia wanted an excuse to stop streaming. But if she's telling the truth, going to church could be highly dangerous. As far as we know, she still isn't vaccinated yet.

I find it so bewildering how many people refer to Eugenia as having “relapsed”: she did not relapse because she never even close to recovered. To think she did shows such a gaping misunderstanding of eating disorders.

The average recovery time for anorexia is 6 years, and that’s for the ones who don‘t die. Having been hospitalised with anorexia myself for several years, none of the medical professionals in any of my units ever used the language of “recovery” or “relapse” for plans shorter than a year at the least, and that was only for the new, young patients who had had an ED for under a year. The prognosis for those who had had their ED for longer was much worse. The vast majority of patients in the ward had been in several times before– known as “revolving door patients”– would go out for a few months at a time and lose all the weight again and then come back in. Like clockwork. At no point in any of this process were they “recovered”, nor did they “relapse”. They were deeply engrained within their ED cycle the whole time.

The ones who do eventually recover, and I am so fortunate to be among those, do so extremely slowly and with massive amounts of dedication, professional and personal support and self-motivation to do so. The only positive outcomes I have ever seen with this illness are when people have something they care about more in their life than their ED, that their ED prevents them from doing.

It is also incredibly infuriating to see people talk about how much “better“ and “healthier” Eugenia looked after leaving rehab. The weight she was at after leaving was honestly probably a weight a lot of people first go in at. Her case is extremely medically exceptional and most people are dead long before they reach a physical stage anywhere near Eugenia.

That’s almost besides the point though. The main reason this annoys me is because it perpetuates the misconception, at the heart of Eugenia’s continual popularity, that EDs are essentially about what you look like and what weight you are. It has nothing to do with that - that’s a symptom. Which is why being forced into rehab and made to gain weight for a mere *6 months* has nothing to do with getting better. And why the internet, which has nothing to go on besides what she looks like and what weight she is at, is so damaging for her. And why people continue to be so obsessed with such a visually shocking example of an illness that kills thousands of less shocking bodies every year. And probably

So I know Eugenia often focuses on negative messages and I know the messages that mods delete are still visible to Eugenia, and that's why she sometimes reads them out and responds to them even after the mods delete.

But do you think one of her mods could be intentionally throwing these messages in her face? Like texting her or IMing her so she really doesn't miss them?

Because I noticed a mod or two that always engages with the hate stuff and mocks it to get Eugenia brownie points. They also will sometimes bring up theories or hurtful things people have said that EC isn't even aware of. Like they're trying to bond with her over how awful her haters are.

And sometimes during streams she'll start typing a bunch to someone before and after a few controversial messages. This could be the mods communicating with her over whether or not to put the chat to "subs only" or something, but most times they do that Eugenia just discusses it out loud.

ANYWAY I just thought I'd throw this out there because when diaper gate was happening I couldn't really see many messages about diapers and there were a LOT of positive messages but Eugenia was just rapidly reading out the negative ones like she had hawk eyes for them and it made me wonder if a mod was specifically showing them to her.

Probably not but it's been awhile since we've had a good ol' fashioned conspiracy theory that doesn't regard Eugenia's crotch area in some way.

Genuinely. Well done for standing up for yourself on stream last night, allowing yourself to feel your emotions (they're valid!), and for removing yourself from the situation when it got too much for you.

Bullying is never okay. And you don't need to apologise for calling it out.

High five girl!

This is my first Reddit group I’ve ever joined so I don’t know how common this is but I’m kind of amazed how divided Eugenia’s fans are. You have some people who will attack any post that says anything that’s not basically kissing Eugenia’s feet but you also have those who attack when you say anything that isn’t that isn’t negative. So what kind of a supporter are you? I consider myself neutral. I don’t agree with a lot of her choices but I look at her as any other human being. Flawed like the rest of us.

She seemed to be a lot more active and sociable in her early YouTube videos. For example, she used to go to social gatherings, events etc. fairly often and her videos prove it. But nowadays it seems like her habits have changed dramatically. Could the ongoing pandemic be the reason for that?

she’ll sit on stream for so long and never drink water. i have never even seen her drink water. water has no calories and would at least make her feel a little bit full so i’m confused as to why she never drinks water at least on camera.

I can’t find the clip or remember the episode number of frenemies but as a I recall Ethan brought up Eugenia Cooney, and TP 🧻 made some gross comments of how she wishes she was that skinny and basically glorifying Eugenia. It always stuck with me how bloody stupid that woman is, insensitive and without an intelligent bone in her body.

Eugenia has a beautiful face. The way she does makeup has always looked exquisite to me. It makes me so incredibly sad to see her deteriorate so badly. I love her sense of fashion. Her outfits have always struck me as so cute and I wish I could wear them. Watching her suffer not only from her mental disorders, but also from people online, just really makes me sad. This entire situation is just tragic. I hate to see all of this happen. I wish she could get the help that she deserves because I think she could be such a wonderful and happy person. Everything here just makes me so sad.

I’m just kind of curious what her daily life is really like. Especially since she doesn’t work. I wonder what she does with all of her free time?

i have followed EC and her journey through life since about 2013-14. we are about the same age. i use to really look up to her, i use to get excited when she would make a video, i would anxiously await her outfit hauls, her makeup tutorials, etc.. i was “growing up” with her, so to speak. as the years went by, i always wondered what she was going to do with her life, she really struck me as a person who had individuality, someone who was outspoken yet kind, somewhat of an optimistic, and she was very good with relating to her viewers and subscribers. i am using past tense because this is just my opinion ; after a while, her videos were not what they use to be. i wasn’t super interested in watching her newest videos or viewing her instagram stories as much. she slowly became a shell of the EC i “grew up with” ; when she started streaming that was a turning point for me with her, i couldn’t believe what i was seeing. how bad things had gotten. and still, she sits there smiling saying everything is fine. and anyone who says otherwise gets banned, insert im sorry you feel that way here… so now that another year has come and gone, and things only appear to be more grim for her.. what do we think this year will bring? more of the same? do you think there is even a chance at this point that she will have an “ah-ha!” moment and realize that absolutely none of what she is doing, while it may earn her an income, is healthy or making her genuinely happy? like when was the last time we saw EC genuinely happy? will she finally admit that she needs help? or could she possibly succumb to her illness after all these years of damage? eugenia, i know you read some of these, and i know you disregard almost all of them, but, i would like you to know, you deserve life. a real one. not just sitting in a chair day in and day out streaming and doing pro-ana activities on camera for money. you deserve so much more. but no one can get you there or even get you started in that direction but you. i truly mean it when i say, you matter. and i hope you’re able to stick around for the type of life you use to want, but you’re the only person who can make that decision.

I've taken a break from this sub for a bit because 1. The situation is so sad to me and 2. I don't always agree with some of the criticism (I believe all opinions are valid, I just don't always agree)

Anyway... I guess what I'm getting at is I usually only check up on here once or twice a week at best. I recently heard about a few major events that happened recently, Eugenia being accused of wearing a diaper and some possible family issues

This makes me so sad. I wish Eugenia could see how much better everything could be if she got help... Does she really want to be remembered for all the controversies and drama. What about that person back in 2019? She's still in there. That sweet, fun and inspirational girl.

You deserve recovery. Maybe things are hard at home right now and maybe your mom needs some help too. There's no shame in that. Most of us here want you to get better. I would be so sad if I were to find out you lost this battle. Imagine how many people would be inspired to recover if you did? You could change so many lives and meet so many new friends in your future. I know you have friends online but imagine having genuine connections with people outside of your family in person, going to the mall and concerts and disney world. The sky is the limit on what you can do... I believe in you. It may take time but it's worth it. I know the place you went last time was traumatic but what if you were to find a place that you know is less invasive?? Or even start small with some sort of virtual therapist who specializes in ED. Just think about it. I'm sorry for everything you went through with the bullying and whatever other stress. But you can make a comeback! Don't let your legacy be stupid rumors and controversies

I was looking at the comments on cooneynator and sometimes there will be comments that seem as if they are coming from Eugenia defending herself and insulting other commenters. Do you think any of the comments could be written by her using a different account?

I understand the want to hold her accountable for her actions, but I don't see how making posts comparing her emaciation to horror movie monsters does that. I genuinely don't understand the point of posts that are just about how terrible she looks or screenshots of her body. People should absolutely be able to talk about the way she harms them (defending predators, flashing, flaunting her emaciation); however, we all know she's incredibly mentally ill and I don't believe comments about her appearance benefit any of us. There's a very fine line between discussing her flaunting her body and her body itself, but that only makes it more important to be careful when talking about it.

I'm sorry if this isn't written clearly as I'm having trouble putting my thoughts about this into words. I would love to hear other people's opinions on what is/isnt okay regarding comments on her appearance

Edited to add: Many people in the comments expressed something which I was trying to say: one of the main reasons I think we ought to think twice before discussing her appearance is that she is not the only one being harmed by doing this.

Even if she never showed them herself, I find it odd that there are none floating around the internet from old classmates or old tagged photos etc. There’s just nothing. Was she ever even put in school or was she cooped up and homeschooled her entire life? Did she have no friends when growing up or were there simply no photos ever taken? It’s so weird..